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Rob Instigator 08.22.2006 09:43 AM

the Ramones started it all.

street kids, thugs, hustlers, male prostitues, junkies, washouts, dead end kids, decided to start a band and rock like chuck berry. PUNK

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:06 AM

Most people who used to hang around at Warhol's Factory could be credited with inventing Punk in that case.Punk and double Punk at that!

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:07 AM

Let the punk thing die, Porky. Stop living in the past and get back to the electronica thread.

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:08 AM

Ok.

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 10:10 AM

electronica is so 90s

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:16 AM

yeah it is .Spookie i'll see you in that 90s thread then.

LittlePuppetBoy 08.22.2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
the original idea of punk was to do it yourself and independantly minded people creating energetic music they liked in reaction to what they saw as boring or staid music. as long as you had the passion and energy to do it then it didnt matter if it sounded good or bad. this could be applied to loads of different genres of music and not just three chord scronk. unfortunatly it got hijacked by a fashion sensability and media frenzy so it became about looking like sid viscious or something. fuck that.


exactly

LittlePuppetBoy 08.22.2006 03:20 PM

did you guys know that punk and New Wave were once the same thing?

Pookie 08.22.2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittlePuppetBoy
did you guys know that punk and New Wave were once the same thing?


New Wave followed Punk. It was punk with all that was interesting and exciting about it removed.

LittlePuppetBoy 08.22.2006 03:54 PM

I am personally finding punk reallt interesting now.

Anngella 08.22.2006 04:56 PM

A misspelling of 'pink'. Rhymes with funk, spunk, junk, trunk, clunk, crunk, dunk, stunk..

finding nobody 08.22.2006 05:32 PM

bunk trunk skunk!

jheii 08.22.2006 06:19 PM

Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are.
It's not the Ramones.
It's not the Sex Pistols.
That's for damn sure.

!@#$%! 08.22.2006 06:25 PM

"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass" -- William Burroughs.

Everyneurotic 08.22.2006 06:25 PM

fuck the ramones!!

all they did was rip off the stooges but with catchy chorus so they could profit from the sound and the buzzword.

the ramones started nothing, in fact, the ramones started the kind of music blink 182, sum 41, green day, fall out boy, etc, play.

nomadicfollower 08.22.2006 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass" -- William Burroughs.



Hah!

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 08:23 PM

It's true. A punk was previously a term for a kid who got fucked up the ass in prison until Legs McNeil got the bright idea to name his magazine Punk and the media went wild.

WHOREOHSCOPE 08.22.2006 08:42 PM

hey cmon don't attack the ramones- they were one of the bands who didn't want that "punk" label in the first place. 1980's ramones =NOT TOO GREAT- but they were truly apart of the "punk scene"--tho I do agree with you on The Sex Pistols- who rooted from what Malcom McClaren took from Richard Hell over to england where "PUNK" became very open to the media and more then just downtown scene(what happened in the US) and this --- Jheii >>>> "Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are."

The term "punk" comes from the fanzine/magazine started by Legs Mcneil++John Holstrom--- which would of been called "teenage news" but Legs thought that name thought up by John was a bad idea- so it became Punk. Their first mag featured Lou Reed+ The Ramones(because they WERE apart of what is known as "punk")

alot of the punk scene didn't even want this but got it because it was a simple label to put on anyone who played that kind of downtown music at Max's or CBGB's-- really how many of these threads have occured tho?? I'm sure by now alot of people have been educated on the subject matter or know it, the best sources are those who were involved with the scene, know+have experienced it--- if you don't know alot about the scene you should definitely look deeper into it, thru media devoted to the truth and less of the nostalgia stuff-- Some examples-
DVD+++ Punk: Attitude(great documentary/ also features Thurston Moore and Sonic Footage*must drop since this is a Sonic Youth board :-P)
Please Kill Me(book featuring quotes that came from many involved in the pre punk and "punk" scene - such as Iggy+the stooges/Velvet Underground/Ny Dolls to Patti Smith/Richard Hell(neon boys/television/heartbreakers/voidoids)/Richard Lloyd(television) to the ramones ...etc
THE INTERNET
and if you don't get it- you'll probably never get it.

EDIT : BY THE WAY GREAT WILLIAM BURROUGHS QUOTE AND A FEW PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT IT-- (SOME IN PUNK: ATTITUDE)

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 08:44 PM

you have got a lot to learn, sonny boy.

WHOREOHSCOPE 08.22.2006 08:48 PM

Me???? -- that isn't all I know -- it's just a basic run thru mostly commenting on what Jheii said at the beginning- with a few people from the early scene listed under the legs mcneil book. There is alot more that went on before and after the storm of the "punk" wave which wasn't too big at all in the united states until like 1991-- with Nirvana and all and by then it wasn't the same.


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