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Tokolosh 09.05.2006 05:22 AM

Cool site heh?

Tokolosh 09.05.2006 05:26 AM

I'd like to see The Naked Pilgrim - Road To Santiago.
Looks great!

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:29 AM

An Alphabet of Villains
Author: Brian Sewell
A collection of more than 100 reviews and articles about 20th century artists by Brian Sewell, art critic for "The Evening Standard". Originally published as "The Reviews That Caused the Rumpus", this is a revised edition which also features the best of Sewell's work.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:30 AM

^^My favourite section on the evening standard has always been him.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:31 AM

Rubbish:


 

Tracey Emin
Every Part of Me's Bleeding
lLeft top: "Soba Sex" 1999, neon 20x50 in. edition of three.
Left bottom: "My Bed" 1998, (detail) middle: "My Bed" 1998
mattress, linens, pillows, rope, various memorabilia.

Background right: "The History of Painting" 1998,
three pregnancy tests, morning after pills
five cases: wood, plexiglas with tampons,
blood, tissue.

(detail) foreground: "My Cunt is Wet with Fear 1998,
neon 10x55 in. edition of three.

The work itself is not as interesting as the effect it has
upon the public. Our prurient juices might flow, arousing
entanglements of distance, desire and voyeurism.
We might dismiss it outright, incredulous that such a
base and brazen display gets attention as Art. We might
see the work as the necessary weapon of an heroic
victim, the bloodied sword of a warrior in the
sex and gender wars. We might stand aside
as it incites the critics to criticize and the media
to mediate, thereby establishing a market value
for itself. Finally, the idea of meeting
her at a party might make us nervous.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:32 AM

My cunt is sweet with fear.Oh dear.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:34 AM

Emin's rude text on eBay




A swear word texted by art rebel Tracey Emin is up for sale on eBay for £20, labelled as art.
The message, which reads simply 'T***', is being flogged by David West.
He got the artist's number from a notice she put up in East London asking if anyone had seen her cat.
He texted her a summary of a newspaper article about her and she sent back the obscenity. Mr West, of North London, is selling framed copies of the text.
In an ad for BT, Emin said: 'Art's everywhere. A text message could even be art.'

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:41 AM

 

Tokolosh 09.05.2006 05:43 AM

Are ya serious. Rubbish? I don't like all her work but some of it is interesting. I like her installations like Everyone I have ever slept with and her mono prints. Didn't she make the crucified jesus sculpture out of cigarettes?

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:45 AM

Wow.This is the bansky outside where i work.It's faded a lot because they've tried to wash it off:


 

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:46 AM

Her work is complete and utter rubbish.Hirst is occasionally interesting.

Tokolosh 09.05.2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Her work is complete and utter rubbish.Hirst is occasionally interesting.


Ok. You're entitled to your own opinion about her.
Bangsy's brilliant. Did you take that photo?

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:53 AM

No i've found it on google.That must have been taken pre 'Bansky can fuck off'.Some irate Hayward Gallery(wich is next door) visitor i imagine.hehe

porkmarras 09.05.2006 05:54 AM

No no it's there if you look closely.You can see the 'Bansky can fuck off' scribble.

Toilet & Bowels 09.05.2006 08:17 AM

i don't like banksy
i like the idea of the stuckists but none of them are actually any good at making art in my opinion
there's a photo by tracy emin called "i've got it all" that i like, i don't care for the rest of her work
hirst i like some times, his new stuff with the dead flies is cool.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 08:58 AM

I like his work purely on a graphic level.The depth that he adds to the images he uses works fine within the contest of what it does but it remains to be seen if he will pass the test of time.As far as Emin and Hirst are concerned,the former is so conceptual as to be generally vacuous and the latter seems to lack the consistency wich ultimately keeps one's work in the annals of serious art.

Hip Priest 09.05.2006 10:02 AM

Stuckism is a radical and controversial art group that was co-founded in 1999 by Charles Thomson and Billy Childish (who left in 2001) along with eleven other artists. The name was derived by Thomson from an insult to Childish from his ex-girlfriend, Brit artist Tracey Emin, who had told him that his art was 'Stuck'. Stuckists are pro-contemporary figurative painting with ideas and anti-conceptual art, mainly because of its lack of concepts. Stuckists have regularly demonstrated dressed as clowns against the Turner Prize. Several Stuckist Manifestos have been issued. One of them Remodernism inaugurates a renewal of spiritual values for art, culture and society to replace the emptiness of current Postmodernism. The web site www.stuckism.com, started by Ella Guru, has disseminated these ideas, and in five years Stuckism has grown to an international art movement with over 100 groups round the world. These groups are independent and self-directed.[/quote]

There was a major stuckist exhibition in Liverpool, at the Walker Art Gallery. Part of the general trend of many museums and art galleries refusing to challenge visitors with anything intelligent. 'Stuckist Manifesto'? What do they think they are?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Brian Sewell is a member of the Catholic Church, so that doesn't surprise me pork. He also raises awareness of issues surrounding circumcision and other forms of surgical alteration of the genitals.

 


When Brian Sewell appeared on Have I Got News For You?, Ian Hislop remarked that they shared a mutual friend. Sewell's response was to comment that he failed to see how any friend of his could possibly also be a friend of Hislop's. I like Ian Hislop a lot, as it happens, but that was quite funny. Sewell's OK on the whole, although I like that Dixon fellow too. And Waldemar Januszczak is excellent.

Great women artists? Hilda Carline and Susan Hiller, to name but two.

Tokolosh 09.05.2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest
When Brian Sewell appeared on Have I Got News For You?, Ian Hislop remarked that they shared a mutual friend. Sewell's response was to comment that he failed to see how any friend of his could possibly also be a friend of Hislop's. I like Ian Hislop a lot, as it happens, but that was quite funny. Sewell's OK on the whole, although I like that Dixon fellow too. And Waldemar Januszczak is excellent.

Great women artists? Hilda Carline and Susan Hiller, to name but two.


I didn't see that show, but I can imagine how Sewell can be pretty funny when he's cocky. Will check out those other two artists. Thanks.

jon boy 09.05.2006 10:13 AM

tracy emin = pointless twat.

porkmarras 09.05.2006 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest
Stuckism is a radical and controversial art group that was co-founded in 1999 by Charles Thomson and Billy Childish (who left in 2001) along with eleven other artists. The name was derived by Thomson from an insult to Childish from his ex-girlfriend, Brit artist Tracey Emin, who had told him that his art was 'Stuck'. Stuckists are pro-contemporary figurative painting with ideas and anti-conceptual art, mainly because of its lack of concepts. Stuckists have regularly demonstrated dressed as clowns against the Turner Prize. Several Stuckist Manifestos have been issued. One of them Remodernism inaugurates a renewal of spiritual values for art, culture and society to replace the emptiness of current Postmodernism. The web site www.stuckism.com, started by Ella Guru, has disseminated these ideas, and in five years Stuckism has grown to an international art movement with over 100 groups round the world. These groups are independent and self-directed.


There was a major stuckist exhibition in Liverpool, at the Walker Art Gallery. Part of the general trend of many museums and art galleries refusing to challenge visitors with anything intelligent. 'Stuckist Manifesto'? What do they think they are?



When Brian Sewell appeared on Have I Got News For You?, Ian Hislop remarked that they shared a mutual friend. Sewell's response was to comment that he failed to see how any friend of his could possibly also be a friend of Hislop's. I like Ian Hislop a lot, as it happens, but that was quite funny. Sewell's OK on the whole, although I like that Dixon fellow too. And Waldemar Januszczak is excellent.

Great women artists? Hilda Carline and Susan Hiller, to name but two.[/quote]
I don't think that Sewell REALLY thinks that there arent any great women artists.


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