Originally Posted by Cantankerous

I did not. You're delusional.

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

when people ask me as an atheist what I think happens after we die, I always say, "Do you remember what it was like before you were born? That's exactly what it is like when you are dead." and they get mad at me because everyone has told them their entire life that when you die you go to a place where everything is perfect. that sounds dull as hell to me.


even so, most christians do not seem to realize that according to the bible, and jesus and every christian teaching, NO ONE goes to heaven until the second coming of the Jeebus and only then will the souls be "judged" and those deemed worthy enter the kingdom of heaven. everyone assumes you die and go straight to heaven or hell, because that is the convenient way to make people do what you want them to do, instant punishment or instant gratification. it is stupid as hell. so NO, your grandma is NOT with the angels, your dead son is NOT in heaven.