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Glice 12.20.2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 21stCenturyDigitalJeff
But you have to listen to it, its like people who don't listen to Jazz will say all Jazz sounds the same ... same with Classical, or Noise or any other genre diffrent then what your use to


Disanalogy.

Savage Clone 12.20.2006 03:19 PM

Well, I spent the bulk of my teens listening to this kind of stuff, and yes, I could tell one band from another, so I guess in that sense it doesn't all sound exactly the same. However, you have to admit that hardcore punk is one of the easiest sounds to pigeonhole that there is, and I don't think most of its practitioners are particularly hung up on "originality" as much as just "getting into it." It's a very easily definable genre with very narrow borders.

jon boy 12.20.2006 03:20 PM

generally speaking nothing makes me want to see a band less than when its described as hardcore punk.

Glice 12.20.2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
generally speaking nothing makes me want to see a band less than when its described as hardcore punk.


"An ecletic mix of real rock n' roll influences"

Inhuman 12.20.2006 03:25 PM

Gotta love black flag!

Norma J 12.20.2006 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Well, I spent the bulk of my teens listening to this kind of stuff, and yes, I could tell one band from another, so I guess in that sense it doesn't all sound exactly the same. However, you have to admit that hardcore punk is one of the easiest sounds to pigeonhole that there is, and I don't think most of its practitioners are particularly hung up on "originality" as much as just "getting into it." It's a very easily definable genre with very narrow borders.


That's true. But that's also the beauty of it.

Norma J 12.20.2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
but really...refused, botch, etc. arent really hardcore. not in the sense that minor threat or SOA was hardcore.

its a different mentality, yeah, there are similiar elements, but the hardcore of the early to mid 80s allowed little room (there was some) for experimentation. "anti art" was actually a pretty common slogan desribing that era.


Have you heard early Refused? It's hardcore. Their last album was branching out and making something more of the genre, hence the title: The Shape of Punk to Come. But they were also trying to get away from the hardcore crowd around the time of writing that album.

k-krack 12.20.2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
Have you heard early Refused? It's hardcore. Their last album was branching out and making something more of the genre, hence the title: The Shape of Punk to Come. But they were also trying to get away from the hardcore crowd around the time of writing that album.


It's true, some of the early stuff makes you wonder how they could make an album like The Shape... (which isn't anything negative).

Inhuman 12.20.2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
It's true, some of the early stuff makes you wonder how they could make an album like The Shape... (which isn't anything negative).


I love their earlier stuff! Their back in black cover is way better than the AC/DC version. It's songs like "Hate Breeds Hate" and "The Marlboro man's Dead" that make this band exceptionally good. The Shape was completely different from most of their stuff

Norma J 12.20.2006 08:39 PM

Their cover of Bullet by the Misfits is way better than the original too.

I haven't heard the Back in Black cover. I love AC/DC and I love Refused.

Inhuman 12.20.2006 08:43 PM

It's a completely different style than the AC/DC version. Most people I know like it less though. And I didn't know that bullet is a cover either! I really want to get into more punk. All I listen to punkwise is Black Flag, Refused, Rites of Spring, and a few No Wave artists. Dennis Lyxzen is a nice guy though, although I only talked to him for a few seconds

k-krack 12.20.2006 08:46 PM

Dennis Lyxen was voted sexiest man in Sweden. Wierd, hey!

I abslutely detest AC/DC.

Norma J 12.20.2006 08:46 PM

Dennis is great. I saw Noise Conspiracy at the start of the year. One of the best live bands ever.

ZEROpumpkins 12.20.2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Husker Du, anyone? I know i'm in...

Oh shit, I don't remember writing that...

21stCenturyDigitalJeff 12.21.2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Disanalogy.


Is that even a word?

Androol 12.21.2006 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I wouldn't classify Husker Du as hardcore. Hardcore has nowhere near enough tolerance of musical experimentation to allow them into its ranks.




wrong!!



 

Androol 12.21.2006 08:35 AM

have you ever even heard this record?!

porkmarras 12.21.2006 08:55 AM

Hello darling!

Androol 12.21.2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
twhat yr doing is pegeon-holing a band based off of a sound. hardcore wasnt a mere sound, despite popular belief.


i'll take that as a no.

porkmarras 12.21.2006 09:01 AM

The only site i have some old music on is playersparadise.Search for porkmarras and off you go.You'll probably need to download the midi player unless you have got one already.


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