I never know anything with you, you fluctuate to much. I just respond to whatever you're saying in the here and now.

just ask. im an open book. concealing a blank fucking page.

I am not beck

Wow, they invited MEAT PUPPETS on stage with them? UNDERGROUND KINGZ!!! Hey buddy, Pearl Jam invited The Frogs on stage with them, doesn't give them any sort of cred.

Also please stop posting horrible memes.

there was a guy wearing a frogs t-shirt who was caught on to catch a predator.

chris hansen has so much cred for inviting him on stage, man.

#supporthescene #UNDERGR0UND4LIFEZ #DIY #independent_art #fuckcorporaterock #ihatejustinbieber #punk #nirvanachangedmylife #05/04/14 RIP KURT WE WILL NEVER FORGET #ima90skid

pretty sure kurts dead ghost would prefer we supported underground music that exists now

they were a cool band, and i love the raincoats and loads of the bands they bigged up (not all of them though).

I don't know if you're being serious or not so I'll just agree, because I dig earth, but haven't checked out the recent stuff, I like the early drone shit.

no im not joking. i like earth.

heard this?

No, it was interesting, I'm going to have to check out some other of those. I like the early earth drone because it doesn't have any electronic music, all guitars, but I am getting more into electronic aspects of music. However, the only Egypt related music I got is Egyptian Lover

that link i posted is a cover of earth.

i was big into drone for a while, and it def had a resurgence for a few years there around 07/08. although its kind of limited.

I was talking about the Egyptrixx link.. I definitely was digging the earth links, including checking out the newer earth you posted.

I love to rock to Bleach, and half the tunes on Nevermind. I am not a fan of In Utero, maybe dig 1/4 of it. I do not like Unplugged.

In Utero is the best part!

yo seriously?

THis is my favorite of the 3 studio albums!

I find several songs on In Ute to be near note for note riff-rips of stuff on Bleach.

I also find it to be the least thrilling of their output. in terms of the rush I get while listening to it.

I like how Bleach rides the bass, how Krist's bass is the propulsion for all the songs, with Kurt's guitar as the shredder.

you can hear the burn out death drive on in utero.

if you listen to the very last bits of music he did - the unreleased jams and live fragments - he had got to a weird place where he was oscillating between EXTREME noise jams with garbled nonsense yelp vocals and really sweet happy light songs like do ri me.

he was getting so intense that i think he realized the bands commercial appeal was going to dwindle, and he was terrified about that.

really sad story.

Yup, I think In Utero and Unplugged perfectly reflect those two conflicting sounds that Kurt was exploring in 1993 for his post-Nirvana music. It was I think his best, he broke out of those "formulas" that began to define Bleach/Nevermind era Nirvana, and much like with the San Antonio Spurs, formulaic shit gets boring as the spontaneity is sucked out like a soul. Nirvana WAS fun, and its clear that Kurt wasn't having fun anymore in the spotlight.


Here is where I think the irrationality of Kurt's extreme drug habit and the insanity that is Courtney Love pushed him over. I never though that the "suicide note" was anything more than a letter of resignation, and perhaps after getting high for days Kurt got too depressed rather than excited. I don't think he was all that interested in commercial success with his music, yet was also clearly thinking about what Courtney wanted. It was her that pushed Kurt to start to get more artistically isolated from Krist and Dave, and in particular it was her who pushed Kurt into those bullshit contracts where he got 75% of In Utero and other materials.. Everybody around Kurt was totally surprised and even worried all the more when he began to push for that through lawyers of all people! He lawyered up yo!! A lot of people around him of course really just though it was a reflection of his staggering drug habit, he was known to pay schmuck prices and was doing a lot a day, and the worst thing for an addict is the possibility of a meal ticket which can support an extended drug habit. Looking at what Courtney did with the Nirvana material AFTER his death, it seems quite clear and obvious that all that shit in 1993 with the lawyers was HER. So really, maybe Kurt wasn't scared of losing out on commercial success or acclaim but rather on how that in particular would piss off Courtney Love. This is not to feed into any kind of conspiracy, rather, to point out that their marriage was toxic.


Exactly!

A love your analysis. I've never understood how folks don't like In Utero because it seemed to reflect that evolving, experimental aspect of Kurt's music which first reared its head into view on Endless, Nameless. In Utero is a FIERCE record. It is trying to bridge chaos with that poppy harmony and riff structure that was trademark Nevermind. The noise jams I think were promising, Kurt was expanding his ability to find sound within layers of distortion and feedback and you see glimpses of this on the 1993 tour and In Utero.

this is the saddest of all. they could've been so much more while still having fun.

youngins: there are some deviant bitches out there so please stay away. Courtney was/is horrible but im guessing she had some good pussy( at least then). fucks with a man everytime. does anyone else thinks he married her because of drug relations and because he thought she was so "punk rock"? a non punk rock girl was out of the question to anyone into such things back then i guess.

can't listen to Bleach no more. with Youtube around now i'd rather listen to raw 89, 90 performances.

i got Bleach from a friend when i was 13 on my birthday. my parents gave me Aerosmith's Get a Grip the same day and i smashed it the next. i quickly reimbursed them the money when i could. i was living on the edge.

The live disc that came with the Bleach reissue is fantastic. Those tours really demonstrate why people caught on to Nirvana in the first place.

dude!! what amazes me was that they were recorded more than any other hype band at the time( and they really weren't that hyped). check Youtube!!!! just about every Nirvana performance was recorded from 89 to 91. more than Pavement, Pixies or...... ohhh i don't know...Dinosaur jr, or any shoegaze england act.

they were bound for success no matter what.

Oh, Nirvana bootlegs were quite the collectable peaking in 1994-1997, a mix of "lost" b-sides and concert recordings. Live Nirvana was ALWAYS better than the albums, I think its why From the Muddy Banks of The Wishkah is actually the best all around Nirvana release.. What was interesting about Nirvana is the mainstream music media caught on to this quickly and from 1992-1994 Nirvana live performances where EVERYWHERE on music TV, including several prominent full concerts.

the reason is because of the livenirvana.com community, they've hunted down nearly every recording that was ever made of the band. a lot of it has been put on youtube in lossy formats, (not by the livenirvana.com people) who hate lossy sharing.

you'd be surprised how many other and more obscure bands were recorded just as much. the recordings just circulate among the bootleg scene cos there's less of a demand for them than there is for nirvana stuff.

On this 20th commemoration I think honestly for the first time I don't feel even a tinge of sadness or sense of loss, rather, it entirely feels like a celebration of how much fucking FUN Nirvana was.. THAT is almost more a tragedy then Kurt's death, that somehow one of the most sincerely fun mainstream bands ever instantly became a symbol for depression, sadness, and dying as if they were ever about that!

Back in da day bootlegs trades were all 90 min cassettes!

More fuel to the fire...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kurt-cob...courtney-love/

holy shit.

that's legitimately the biggest thing to happen in that story in years.

hahahahaha.

One of the worst sculptures I have ever seen. Damn.

Is it just me or does it look like there is more to that note that is cut off by the scan?

I think its interesting that this note was never mentioned in 20 years.. I also was saddened by the 3 or 4 "newly" released pictures which show Kurt's body, it really makes it much realer than the previous single picture which was previously released which showed his body laid out on the floor :(

They deserved each other.

Wasn't that much totally obvious?

Nirvana were a cool band and rocked when they were around but they brought a sort of creative dysmorphia to rock music which always irritated me.

To be honest I felt like pointing that out because after reading some of your posts about troubled Kurt you left me with the impression that you're always trying to build up consensus to slag off Courtney Love whenever you can. She's often an idiot, sure, but so was Saint Kurt. I still love his music though. And hers, occasionally.

Courtney Love proved much more evil AFTER his death than before. I'm not one of those "kurt was a martyr and courtney was the villain" kind of people, I don't think she had him killed, or anything crazy like that, shit I don't even think she drove him to suicide like some argue, his demons were his own.

But simply put, what she has done with Nirvana since, commercially and legally, and to the blatantly neurotic and almost OCD level vindictiveness to attack writers, bands, media, and even fans is unconscionable. So really, my beef with her has nothing to do with Kurt at all, but rather my experience the past 20 years as a Nirvana fan and really most fans have been held hostage to her bullshit. Just release the shit yo! Fuck, how much more money should there be? What is saddest is that a huge part of it is how she continuously worked the angles to fuck out Dave and Krist of anything. The With the Lights out the the Black Album were almost 90% music that she owned, and purposely released this way to fuck them out of anything. The slow release of DVDs and bootlegs was really part of that same process, as she worked her magic to take the lion share of moneys from those live performances based on her exclusive ownership of the material being performed, even while those on tape performing are getting fucked. She is essentially a demonic incarnation of all that was wrong with the 1950s music industry goons.

To be sure, I have even more beef with Rita Marley for similar shit. Money is a root of all kinds of evils ;(

So Kurt played the bass and drums on the records then? Oh yeah, that is Dave's voice you hear on the backing vocals pretty much on the every track for Nevermind ;)

So he wrote the bass and drum parts then?




"With the lights out.. its less dangerous!"