yeah and also snobs are pathetic idiots who use snobbery as a means to mask their insecurities. music snobs being insecure about whether their taste in music is "right", they may not even be aware of this themselves, but more likely they are aware, they just wouldn't admit it.

I'm not a snob. I know that vast majority of music that I love is completely unknown to msot of my friends but I just don't care. I barely speak about music with them or with my girlfriend and I keep thoughts on it to the people that understand it and know what to say about it. It's not that I'd be a snob, it's because I don't want to bother people with saying things they're not interested about.

Subway is last resort for subs to me - we have a lot of great sub/hoadie shops around here. I did like the meatball sub, Danny.

I'm totally indie rock snob, of course. I'm SO arty-indie-fashion-hype... Of course, I hate Sonic Youth and all those indie shits, I listen to them just to be cool on my last.fm page.

I guess I am a snob. I don't talk a whole lot about music with my friends because none of them know what I'm talking about. I do generally think that my musical taste is much better than the majority of people though...

i used to try and introduce my old friends to my music as much as possible, but they started making fun of me so i just started poking fun at them for listening to cutty-cutty cock rock. now i don't even bother calling them because they think nickelback is the epitome of good rock. does that make me a snob? i think not.

also, just because one likes fashion, that does not a snob make them.

I think goth kids seem to be the biggest music snobs where I live, they only seem to believe in one type of music and sonic youth are apparently not heavy enough.
Classic blatant snobbery, "yeah I use to like nirvana, when I was a kid"

most of my friends have completely different tastes in about everything. i don't care. 'de gustibus et colorandibus non disputandum' :)

Goth kids in the US are funny because none of them have ever listened to bands like Bauhaus, Christian Death, The Swans, Fields of Nephilim, etc.

you forgot The Sisters of Mercy!! :p

I enjoy Quizno's, although it shames me to admit it. I've been there twice in Seattle.

I'm a music snob, yeh.
I love Subway... i don't give a fuck. I love Mr. Sub even more, though. Annnd, never tried Quizno's, though my friends all say it's the best ever.

just so you guys know before you condemn yourselves, being discriminating in one's tastes does not equal snobbery. please note the following definitions:

Definitions of snob on the Web:
a person regarded as arrogant and annoying
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
A snob, guilty of snobbery or snobbism, is a person who imitates the manners, adopts the world-view and apes the lifestyle of a social class of people to which that person does not by right belong. That "right" is not necessarily a birth-right: a pseudo-intellectual is a type of snob. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob
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another way to say snob is "pretentious little poser shit". if you wanna call yourself one, go ahead, but first know what it means, yeah?

I am

I would rather hang out with all the nickelback fans in the world than the kind of people who think their taste in music makes them better than others. Seriously, grow up people. You're not as important as you think you are.

p.s. my very best friend in the entire world LOVES nickelelbeback.

As if indie rock kids could possibly elevate themselves to the status of snobs as such.

I am a music snob because all the shit the dumb fucks listen to and love SUCKS SHIT
there is no relativism. relativism is a crutch created by bullshit philosophers.

beethoven is better in every fucking way than bily joel.

so is sonic youth

if that is snobbery then I am SNOB!

i am such an indie snob I do not even know what nicjkelback is

who cares? i would rather hang out with a genuine billy joel fan anyday than a stuck up sonic youth fan.

beard out.

Regarding the thread topic: I'm too egocentric and lazy to give a shit what other people are doing. And, I listen to some real shit music myself.

Regarding Subway: Their salads don't get enough love. You can customize them, and the vegetables are always fresh. As far as you germophobes go, get your panties out of your asscrack - surely you knew money is one of the dirtiest objects one can possibly handle, and even the most impoverished of us touch that germ denizen quite often. And you chicks with purses - a study was recently done on the hygiene of the bottom of the average purse, and the majority of samples taken found that the bottoms of purses were dirtier than your average public toilet, and most contained fecal matter of some kind. So quit whining about fast food hygiene, pussies.

Regarding St. Louis: Cantankerous, darling, why do you dislike it so? I was there once, around Washington U, and I found it rather charming, if a bit ghetto. Good jazz clubs 'round those parts.

Do you not think that,perhaps,Beethoven himself might have looked down on you for being a little too precious about being passionate or expressing a pronounced interest in music?Music is first and foremost fun and enjoyment and not something to be used to look people down on.
Whatever somebody listens to is ok for as long as it means something to them in a way that i can/can't understand.

Edit - To Roberta.

i'm an indie snob for telling all the other indie snobs that they are indie snobs which in fact makes me a greater indie snob and eventually repeats the entire process yet once again.

what?

why do you assume that I am a stuck up sonic youth fan as opposed to a genuine sonic youth fan? what nakes you think you can determine who is a "genuine" Billy Joel fan?
Most every billy joel fan would tell you that sonic youth sucks ass and that it is not music. does that make them stuck up?

Nope, just lets you know their taste.

beethoven would have applauded me, for he also thought his music was the dopest shit around.

So he didn't really make music for the enjoyment of others,or did he?He wasn't fucking Malkmus,you know?That's my demonic image of an indie snob who doesn't know shit,let alone how to approach musicianship.

I agree with this in a fairly substantial way. I've got loads of mates who know fuck all about Sonic Youth, and could care less about Joy Division or the Velvets or whatever, and they're much better company. I quite often find that, if you let people talk about what they love, they eventually introduce you to something - recent years have seen numerous people turn me onto the like of Kelly Clarkson or Avril Lavigne or an untold world of country/ folk/ world/ lift/ easy listening/ trad jazz [etc] that I wouldn't have listened to otherwise.

I'll admit to being somewhat of an elitist/ fascist when it comes to music, but generally speaking I'd much rather talk to someone who isn't afraid to say they love REM, or James Blunt or even u2 than I would someone whose conversation revolves around how much asinine generic band x 'rock' and how much asinine generic band y 'rule'.

I reckon if you asked every Sonic Youth fan you ever meet what they think of Billy Joel, you'll probably get a surprisingly similar reaction. Sonic Youth are good, they are not the Holy Grail. In fact, I suspect most Billy Joel fans wouldn't have heard of Sonic Youth, and might, if you talk to them nicely, take the time to listen, something that most Sonic Youth fans wouldn't return in kind.

What's the problem with Billy Joel?

that is not snobbery, that is just superior listening powers.

edit: no actually it's not that even. it's just obvious. give me something else?

It's called being ultimately narrow minded.

Please look into his face and try not be a snob but plainly violent towards your computer screen:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=13DfvdeH-io

that would damage my sweet, sweet machine. could i instead by lukewarm and indifferent towards that carrot-face and his la-la-la?

nope, it is just that billy joel sucks just a little bit less than phil collins

By comparison Instance one of an Englishman being louche and aloof whilst simultaneously being a sexy motherfucker. Instance two. You might note that the latter comes across as an utter, total cunt, and yet still, mysteriously, scares the shit out of one. And invented Pavement. And whose band is. still, all these years later, both the epitome and antithesis of indie snobbery.

Did you notice a pitoval thing about that video?Vile anglophile Malkmus vilifies his own virility by using a stereotypical image of British indieness and manliness by playing golf in the video.Now,like anyone who made physical contact with a beer monster who likes otherish music in England will know, that typical indie guy in England(in the 80's at least) is more into the roughness of football and not golf,which is essentially a sport for girls,innit?And those flowers?Girl!

Golf is the last vestige of those born without culture. This applies even in parodies. Even the most fawning of British indie types (so, Lawrence Denim or the Pastels) wouldn't be seen dead near a golf course, or flowers, or anything other than a dank bookshop wearing an overly-large jumper (not sweater).

Can you separate the bread and butter Mark E Smith from the genius Mark E Smith?No.It's literally impossible and that's what i love about him.

golf is fun.

anyone else play? I had my clubs stolen from my house last christmas.

i cannto separate the Andy Kapp Mark E Smith from the toothless homeless Mark E Smith

What does that mean?

he looks like andy kapp to me.