oh but you would.aren't you courtney love after all?

in a nutshell? man hating separatist bullshit.

i don't think i have enough stds.

I see, I am still debating if I should go to bed or just stay up and doing nothing. But loiter in my room.

she looked pretty healthy to me for an old sponge last time she was on tv

give it time...that's the thing with syphillis. it creeps up on you when you least expect it.

did you have to go through that yourself?

maybe i should be asking you that.

Go on, ask .do you live with the old creep these days?

The CD is probably the rerelease of their first two records called, interestingly, First Two Records.

So you long as you don't treat them as some kind of manifesto, Bikini Kill are great.

yeah. i was put off kathleen hannah forever by reading some interview where she said recently before the interview she had been to some discussion about feminism held by some academics and when she set foot in the room she realised that sitting in a room filled with feminist academics was her idea of heaven.

i thought you where more of a sleater kinney girl?

yeah i told you that punk broke version is amazing. i saw them at reading a few years later and it was not as good. they seemed on the verge of tears most of the time.

i went through a Riot Grrrrl phase, bought all Holes, babes in toyland's, Bikini Kill's, Bratmobile's, and Sleater-Kinney's albums.

The only one i still really love now is Sleater-Kinney. Hole are okay, babes in toyland are fun, Bikini Kill are angry and Bratmobile are lesbians. But Sleater-Kinney are just great musicians.

i accept the challenge baby...i am more hardcore. hahaha

she's just a silly cunt.

kat bjelland could shatter glass with her voice. i love her.

we've all dragged our jesus hair a... ROUND ROUND ROUND

Is femenism still revelant for today, I ask myself.

i don't really think it does any good because there hasn't been a damn bit of change since we got the right to vote, which was almost 90 years ago. the story's the same, it's just been modernized. gender roles are the same as they've always been and they'll always be this way. i don't think my ideas are "defeatist", i think they're "realistic".

It is true, not that much changed has happen. I still don't get the man hating thing. But I also don't get much of the gays hating the hetero's. Or racists for that matter.

i don't really understand how someone can hate a whole group of people based solely upon bullshit stereotypes which are magnified by the media, particularly in the US. there's no logic behind it. personal vendettas against specific people (regardless of the demographic they belong to) are another matter entirely.

Well neither can I. I just live my way and ignore the world as it is.

yu crackas

what some feminists do not want to realize is the fact that a lot of human behavior is genetic, not socially learned, so no matter how much you tweak society biology is going to win the day. maoism is a failure.

having said that-- there is a lot that has changed from 90 years ago. much of it has to do with biology: birth control has done more for women than any social policy.

just look at the situation w/ college eduction & you'll realize what's going on. please read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html?ex=1310097600&en=cd9efba2e9595dec&e i=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

that wasn't the case no no it wsn't 90 years ago because of all the barriers.

i rest my case.

I have to agree with him. Biology does affect us in a big way.

tell that to a humanities person and they'll call you a fascist. they believe their bodies are nothing but "texts" that can be rewritten almost at will. goddamn fuckheads!

like i said, we're basically in the same situation with different specifics. when you look at the big picture and focus less on the minute details, nothing much has changed.
yr right about the biology thing, i agree 100%. biology can only be controlled in a small way.

ssplain, ssplain...

women are still treated as inferior to men in a lot of respects. yeah, we have the right to vote, etc etc etc, all that boring historical bullshit. but pharmacists still refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, yet will duly write up a script for viagra. special TV networks exist in accordance to stereotypical female or male interests. in a rape trial, they won't prosecute the defendant a lot of times because the woman was wearing a mini dress and high heels, therefore she was asking for it. the list goes on and on and i find talking feminist politics to be really boring and tedious but you get the idea.

shurr, shurr. but you're standing on the shoulders of giants so to speak. what you see is small potatos comparatively. go ask sylvia pankhurst or for that matter even jeanne d'arc.

there are anti-men stereotypes too though, like presuming that all domestic violence is carried out by men. go google & see if you find anything else.

but hm on the initial subject (im not trying to "defend men" here) the religious pharmacists are useless unproffesional fucking turds that should be shot.

oh did you ever read the yellow wallpaper? what was that book... check it out.

any case currently 58% of college students are women so expect some big changes soon.

i hate that one. if any domestic violence is going down in my house i'm the one doing the beating. that stereotype says something about women too; namely that they're delicate (therefore they wouldn't be the ones throwing down), need to be put in their place by a man.
domestic violence instigated by men is recognized as something really deplorable because of the notion that has been drilled into the brains of every male forever and ever: never hit a girl (presumably because you're supposed to treat her like a lady and not an equal, and that women/girls/whatever are incapable of defending themselves.)

(and) i pity the fool...

see edit.

oh. that. it's conveniently twisted to make men pay no matter what goes down.

there's another one: that men are the sole perpetrators of sexual harassment. oh, that got me into trouble! i was once in a delicate work situation and i didn't budge, but i had to take a lot of shit because of some fucking "cowboy code" from the XIX century. fuck that!

iraq is a fuckhole of a dump when it comes to sexual politics. a fucking medieval concentration camp. let's please add afghanistan to the list.

it's all twisted to make women look like the victim in every situation and to make men look like the big bad motherfucking wolf. that's politics.

that was a sharp motherfucking observation. is it original or are you quoting? im seriously asking because it rarely happens that im impressed in this goddamned board.

it's an original. serial no. 45435847 A.

no im not quoting.

then you better go & make something of your life or i'll personally go & kick your ass for having wasted your brains. you may know kungfu, but i'll catch you by surprise-- it's a promise.

if i was you i'm sure i wouldn't mind.

not to get all tears eliot, but that wasn't it at all, you filthy-minded corrupter of children :p

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i really mean what i said in the previous post, not joking at all.

in that case my ego is "nice & thick" (a hispanic trait) :D

but dont twist my words. this is a solemn occasion.

fyi, that was a joke about you liking it up the butt.

promise. and i don't know kung fu but i would take you on any day.