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Toilet & Bowels 02.22.2016 04:44 PM

Feeding Tube is also a shop and I'm sure they must do mailorder.

stu666 02.23.2016 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Feeding Tube is also a shop and I'm sure they must do mailorder.


They do but not for this release it seems... I've tried contacting the owner of the shop but I haven't had a reply yet.


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Originally Posted by pepper_green
what tha hell is this anyway!


Another shitty bootleg by the looks of it, which the band probably won't get any money from... I don't get how shops like Rough Trade are allowed to sell these? I'll probably still buy it at some point :rolleyes:

Mortte Jousimo 02.23.2016 04:44 AM

Never gonna buy anything straight from Feeding Tube ever.

halgreen 02.23.2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Never gonna buy anything straight from Feeding Tube ever.


Why's that?

noisereductions 02.23.2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666
Another shitty bootleg by the looks of it, which the band probably won't get any money from... I don't get how shops like Rough Trade are allowed to sell these? I'll probably still buy it at some point :rolleyes:


wait seriously? I only bought it cuz I thought it was legit - being thru Rough Trade and all. Fuck.

Can we confirm one way or another? I really don't care enough about bootlegs to be spending $ on em.

I still feel ripped off on that Liberty Lunch, although I guess Thurston did at least acknowledge the band knew about that one or were semi-behind it?

Mortte Jousimo 02.23.2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
Why's that?

They treated me badly one time and that was enough to me.

Mortte Jousimo 02.23.2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
wait seriously? I only bought it cuz I thought it was legit - being thru Rough Trade and all. Fuck.

Can we confirm one way or another? I really don't care enough about bootlegs to be spending $ on em.

I still feel ripped off on that Liberty Lunch, although I guess Thurston did at least acknowledge the band knew about that one or were semi-behind it?

C`mooon noise! When I saw the cover of that album I immediately know it is bootleg. Have you seen any mentions from it in the bands official sites? When Smart Bar came it was really much advertised long time before it was released. But I donīt think you should stress about it. SY doesnīt seem to care anything about bootlegs (itīs not a long time I saw GOO in a clear vinyl and first and confusion that are total bootlegs). Sometimes itīs of course hard to know with this band which is official (I believed also at first Glitterbust is also bootleg but decided to order it anyway). I have always think bootlegs that release something not already released are totally ok. Hope that one have good sound quality.

I have been mad when thinking buying original album getting a bootie (Tom Waits Black Rider, P J Harvey Dry, of course I shouldīve know theyīre bootlegs because they werenīt as expensive they should be).

And these days bootlegs are in the legit shops, I have bought many from them.

noisereductions 02.23.2016 12:55 PM

yeah it's just that I care about collecting the official discography. I'm not as quick to part with my money for unofficial bootleg stuff tho.

Toilet & Bowels 02.23.2016 03:27 PM

I went to Feeding Tube last year and Byron Coley was an absolute gent.

radarmaker 02.23.2016 06:01 PM

This is the label behind Burning Down In The Night: https://www.discogs.com/label/594462-SAT-Records
Not much doubt about their status..

noisereductions 02.23.2016 06:33 PM

Dammit.

Mortte Jousimo 02.24.2016 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
yeah it's just that I care about collecting the official discography. I'm not as quick to part with my money for unofficial bootleg stuff tho.

Well, if you wait few years, I donīt think you have problems to get rid of it...also possible get more money from it than you put it.

Mortte Jousimo 02.24.2016 02:57 AM

And about official discography...I donīt think I will ever have all the Thurston official solo stuff (itīs just so huge), maybe also not Leeīs too. Also I am not into all SY official singles (all official albums I have, well not Hold that tiger and Battery Park, I think Hold that is official bootleg : )).

noisereductions 02.24.2016 02:25 PM

I don't have all the singles either. And I don't hardcore collect the solo stuff.

BUT, I have all official Sonic Youth albums and EP's that were released on CD; this includes the official bootlegs that were released on CD as well.

The Soup Nazi 02.24.2016 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
BUT, I have all official Sonic Youth albums and EP's that were released on CD; this includes the official bootlegs that were released on CD as well.


I got rhythm, I got music, I got my SY, who could ask for anything more?

greenlight 03.01.2016 04:56 AM

Kim teamed up with bestselling Norwegian author Jo Nesbo to narrate his 2015 crime novel Midnight Sun.

you can purchase audiobook here:
http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Sun-n.../dp/055354599X

here's a snippet from a soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/billboard/kim...un-by-jo-nesbo

The Soup Nazi 03.02.2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
So I imagine we're talking lossless files from 24/96 to 24/192. I wonder if they'll be available at the Pono Store (they should).


Some high resolution filesets are already showing up at the Pono Store: Goo, Dirty (including "Stalker"), Washing Machine and "The Diamond Sea" (3-track "single" or whatever you wanna call it), all in 24-bit/192kHz.

Chris Lawrence 03.04.2016 02:31 PM

Wow. I'd be very interested to hear more about these from someone close to the band...and anyone who's taken the plunge. :D

halgreen 03.04.2016 04:04 PM

One thing for sure is that it is louder than a motherfucker

The Soup Nazi 03.06.2016 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
One thing for sure is that it is louder than a motherfucker


Well, "HD audio" doesn't mean "loudness war remaster". In fact, it doesn't necessarily mean remaster at all. In Pono's case, it means that they go back to the masters and make a new transfer to digital at the highest possible resolution (because of the way some albums were recorded, they can't be transferred all the way to 24/192; they may have to stop at, say, 24/88.2 or something). A bogus "upscale" from the existing 16/44.1 resolution to 24/[x kHz] without going back to the master recordings is a no-NO.

What would actually make the HD files louder than a motherfucker is to commit the unspeakable crime of compressing them to mp3. Then you'd get clipping and extraneous distortion and all kinds of fuckedupness.

radarmaker 03.08.2016 06:23 PM

The Sister repress is up on discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Sonic-Youth-...elease/8224662
The runouts suggest it's pressed from the same masters as the ORG issue from a few years back.

halgreen 03.08.2016 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Well, "HD audio" doesn't mean "loudness war remaster". In fact, it doesn't necessarily mean remaster at all. In Pono's case, it means that they go back to the masters and make a new transfer to digital at the highest possible resolution (because of the way some albums were recorded, they can't be transferred all the way to 24/192; they may have to stop at, say, 24/88.2 or something). A bogus "upscale" from the existing 16/44.1 resolution to 24/[x kHz] without going back to the master recordings is a no-NO.

What would actually make the HD files louder than a motherfucker is to commit the unspeakable crime of compressing them to mp3. Then you'd get clipping and extraneous distortion and all kinds of fuckedupness.


I get that it doesnt necessarily mean loudness war remaster. But I listened to the 24/96 downsampled Goo from Pono, and its loud as hell.

tremspeed 03.09.2016 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Well, "HD audio" doesn't mean "loudness war remaster". In fact, it doesn't necessarily mean remaster at all. In Pono's case, it means that they go back to the masters and make a new transfer to digital at the highest possible resolution (because of the way some albums were recorded, they can't be transferred all the way to 24/192; they may have to stop at, say, 24/88.2 or something). A bogus "upscale" from the existing 16/44.1 resolution to 24/[x kHz] without going back to the master recordings is a no-NO.


I bought the 3 albums but not the Washing Machine single. I think they sound really good, but they are not profound improvements over the last batch of CDs. The reason for the sample rate is to reproduce frequencies at up to half that rate- so for the 192 SY titles, they can produce sound at up to 96 khz, which is way way way above what you can actually hear as sound. I personally top out at like 17 khz, which is a combination of age and the good folks at Marshall. Anyway, there's a ton of debate on whether the extended frequencies that you can't directly hear influence what you can. I just want the best possible copy of all my favorite albums and do think there are subtle improvements when you go high rez digital. Particular to the SY titles, a better sense of the space these songs were recorded in, and increased dimension of the textures.

But keep in mind this audiophile stuff can veer on bullshit real quickly. The more amplified and intentionally distorted music is, the less dramatic it is in an audiophile situation (why these dudes usually are into classical and jazz and stuff like Steely Dan). It also should be said that with run of the mill gear, you're probably not going to be able to hear much difference at all.

The Soup Nazi 03.09.2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tremspeed
It also should be said that with run of the mill gear, you're probably not going to be able to hear much difference at all.


That's absolutely true. When I got my Pono player I knew I had to upgrade my bullcrap $10 earphones. I got a pair of $150 VSonics which sound really beautiful to me, but I know there's even better stuff out there ($150 was all I had at the time, so...).

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Originally Posted by halgreen
I get that it doesnt necessarily mean loudness war remaster. But I listened to the 24/96 downsampled Goo from Pono, and its loud as hell.


Damn!

 

halgreen 03.11.2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Remaining copies will be available from Feeding Tube

http://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/live-hassle/


Cashed in a favor from my friend who lives up there a few weeks back. She's in town visiting and brought this back for me. Will report back after i listen.
 

The Soup Nazi 03.11.2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by halgreen
Cashed in a favor from my friend who lives up there a few weeks back. She's in town visiting and brought this back for me. Will report back after i listen.


You son of a bitch.
;)

The Soup Nazi 03.13.2016 05:37 PM

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halgreen has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

 

stu666 03.13.2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
You son of a bitch.
;)


I got one too! :p

stu666 03.14.2016 02:02 AM

Bad Bonn Song Book
https://www.editionpatrickfrey.com/e...lard-katharina

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AY3Wmcw8Lec

greenlight 03.14.2016 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stu666


this is probably first time I am seeing T + E together like that "officially". interesting. oh, wait, I have seen them together in Belfast when he played with John Moloney. I did not realize it was her at the time...she was filming the gig on the side of the stage.

tesla69 03.16.2016 04:14 PM

I think this will be a fine evening at transpecos

TUES 3/29 - $12 Advance / $15 Door
8PM

NYCTAPER presents Chuck Johnson, Lee Ranaldo, Ancient Ocean

stu666 03.20.2016 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halgreen
Cashed in a favor from my friend who lives up there a few weeks back. She's in town visiting and brought this back for me. Will report back after i listen.
 


I'm listening to it now for the first time. Only a few minutes into it so far but what I have noticed is the person who recorded this must have had (or was very close to someone who had) breathing problems. The heavy breathing is spoiling it a bit for me I'm sad to say. I hope it doesn't continue throughout...

EDIT: Thankfully you can only hear the heavy breathing at the start and end of the record.

Mortte Jousimo 03.21.2016 11:32 AM

Stu, itīs art, canīt you understand :)

pepper_green 03.23.2016 06:45 PM

I want Terry's Carrot on vinyl.

noisereductions 03.24.2016 08:17 AM

I was really hoping that the live album that came out a couple of years ago was going to be the start of an annual archival release project. I know I sound like a broken record, but plz bring on more live albums, bsides/outtakes collections, unreleased SYR's, anything anything!

pepper_green 03.24.2016 06:03 PM

^^uh, your blog or website still doesn't work noise. ???

blunderbuss 03.25.2016 04:23 AM

From Aadam Jacobs' Facebook:

After my obligatory jobs running the lights for improv shows tonight, I scurried over the The Empty Bottle to catch what I could of Thurston Moore's band. I had a great conversation with Debbie Googe and was honored with a kiss goodbye! Steve Shelley gave me some of my old Sonic Youth tapes back and told me the story about SYR 6. He also showed me an upcoming SY archival release that will blow your fucking pants off (no spoilers).

halgreen 03.25.2016 02:15 PM

The anticipation...I wonder if it's a hold that tiger reissue, or another Sister-era live show.

noisereductions 03.25.2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blunderbuss
From Aadam Jacobs' Facebook:

After my obligatory jobs running the lights for improv shows tonight, I scurried over the The Empty Bottle to catch what I could of Thurston Moore's band. I had a great conversation with Debbie Googe and was honored with a kiss goodbye! Steve Shelley gave me some of my old Sonic Youth tapes back and told me the story about SYR 6. He also showed me an upcoming SY archival release that will blow your fucking pants off (no spoilers).


OMG! YES! WHAT IS IT! YES!

EVOLghost 03.25.2016 03:04 PM

missed that show last night due to a cold...>Dammit.


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