ahhhhhhhhhhh

actually, i did take lessons, and my teacher was great, made me do a whole year of rhythm development before going into any melody, and learnt jazz, metal, funk, blues and more and got encouraged to find my own style.

my statement comes from reading about guitarist teaching their methods or talking about them, and that's like the people who have instrument teachers just so they can help them figure out the tab of the songs they want to learn and nothing else.

if you want to develope your own style, you can't rely on a teacher; learning stuff, be it formal or informal, benefits from someone guiding you when you're starting, but if you want to really play something of your own, you should go out and find it for yourself, that way, it can develope into your own style instead of just something else filed under whatever method you're following.

of course people are different and some rather have their licks and riffs separated rather than coalesed into a style.

i can't imagine myself learning (or is it unlearning) and playing atonal guitar and being original at it under the guidance of a teacher.

great valid opinion and if it works for you fantastic, i disagree though. you can have a teacher and develop your own style at the same time as i don't beleive style is something you work at but something that occurs as you gig more and develop as a musician, having a teacher is having some to be able to teach you new techniques which can help you forward your own style as you grow as a gigging musician. everyone you play with in a band over time influences your style as you are creating a shared language together and this will always grow and morph as you go through different changes of line ups different bands different styles.....

i see your point but you give people too much credit.

actually, you have a mentality very similar to my teacher, get gigs and don't get tied to bands and/or lineups.

robert fripp

kevin sheilds

micheal hedges

i think i could learn alot of very different things from these three

i don't give people too much credit i just don't know any copycat musicians

my old guitar teacher actually went to Fripp's guitar school and was personally trained by him, so i learned a few things, nothing like Fripptronics though

other wise

John Fahey
Don Fleming
Mary Timony

I was about to add Fripp, but man, he's Trippy... Adrian Belew would make sure to keep the lesson all about the fun. And he signed my ticket to a KC concert once so... I might as well ask him. AH!

Fuck yeah.

Check this out, and hang it out at least until the three minute mark...

Thou shalt be rewarded with rediculousness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb5Qa...elated&search=

...and if you think you have the testicles, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rutyA...elated&search=

only one:
Michael Angelo Batio

Blixa Bargeld
Tom G Warrior
Arto Lindsay

johnny marr for 3 lessons.

nobody else.

john fahey
andrew mears
hendrix!

Right... anybody could pick up a modified banjo and sound just like Paul Metzger...

Just like how anybody who picks up a guitar sounds just like Hendrix or a trumpet Miles Davis...

I've seen Paul's records. He listens to a goddamn lot of Indian music and jazz stuff.
While he doesn't study Indian music as a "discipline," he knows it pretty damn well and listens to a lot of it. He also plays sarod, and can play straight Django-jazz style on his guitars and banjo as well. He knows perfectly well what he's doing, and is a virtuoso player. It's not the instrument. It's him.

I'd so fucking love to have that sort of talent. John Cale once asked Angus MacLise to play his viola, and he stood there in front of him while his jaws dropped, because MacLise literally played the shit out of the instrument without having ever touched it before.

I did not know this.
Adds another layer to my Maclise fascination.


Oh, and I forgot to mention that I have seen Paul do some very jagged and abrasive "out-jazz" improv sets on that banjo and the modified guitar as well. No discernable Indian influence those nights, I can tell you that.

I was talking to him once about how I would like to learn fingerstyle better, and he said "Oh yeah, I can do that shit," and busted out some awesome Gypsy jazz stuff like it was nothing.

Pretty hilarious moment.

andres segovia
django reinhardt
jimi hendrix

Lee Ranaldo
Jimi Hendrix
Ira Kaplan

This list is probably going to change within the hour, but at the moment those are the three I'd want a lesson from.

This requires thought. Let me just think this trough dinner

(It requires thought because he only listens to Kevin Shields and J. Mascis, and figuring out a candidate for #3 would require branching out a bit)

i'm distressed that he eats out of a trough. you are not a pig! you are
human!

Well, it's taking Kevin Shields some time to come up with a new My Bloody Valentine record. If you apply the same attidute to the way you chew food......

No, I wouldnt wanna take lessons from Kevin anyways. I decided that I'm too 'indie' for guitar lessons, i'd rather have them run trough their set-ups and show some cool sounds and noise.

May I suggest Lonnie Donegan?

Sn@ke:

OK, and I think you missed my point as well.
I'm saying that Paul can play straight Jazz, heavy electric rock, fingerstyle guitar stuff, out/free jazz, and Indian/Asian influenced stuff.
These are all areas he plays exceptionally well. He has used the banjo to play sets of a purely free jazz nature; sets that were very angular and had little to no influence from the East. It's only one of his instruments, and the instrument itself is not a one-trick pony. There is a lot of thought put into what he is going to play on it at any given time.
One of those three pieces is in 10/8, for god's sake. Plus, the thing is chromaticaly fretted and there are many many wrong notes to choose from
on that thing. He plays in this way very deliberately, because if he wanted to do something else stylistically and was in the mood to do so, he would.
He can use the banjo in many ways, just like he can use a standard guitar in many different ways. To say that it is "the instrument and not him" is to ignore just how versatile he is as a player. You have only heard one facet of his playing.

yey

On this point, there are two or three techniques I have seen Paul use that I have never seen anyone else use before; this doesn't mean that they haven't been done, but I've seen a lot of people play string instruments and there are a couple of extended techniques I have seen him apply that were completely new to me.

Edit:
And obviously we both like Paul, so in the end we're on the same page, but I'm pretty sure that if you had seen him play as much as I have, you probably wouldn't hold this point of view.

I know many like him but Hank Marvin's style drives me nut!!!

Mine would be:

Johnny Marr
Lee Randalo
Glenn Branca

That's interesting. This thread made me think of how it's literally impossible to copy someone who has way too distinctive a style of playing music, so the only lessons that you could get from them are purely technical. The talent is only there if you have it, and unfortunately we don't all have it. Lucky bastards to those who do. One of the reasons why I have only vaguely attempted to approach strings in general.

Right now, I'd say:
Prince
Lee Ranaldo
Josh T. Pearson

I have changed my mind. I would want to learn guitar from one man only

JIMI HENDRIX, but he had a giant thumb and he fingered the bass notes with his thumb which my hand cannot do and he strung a right handed guitar backwards which may not translate to me.....

being able to play viola fantastically is like being able to pick your ass fantastically. who fucking cares?

There are like 10 pieces for solo viola in the repertoire, because the viola is one nasally sounding shitbox.


long live the cello!

Watch it, Roberta!!!! I'm a mean recorder player. I even let a streak of saliva off my mouth, if I play it ferociously.

1. trey spruance
2. paul leary
3. both polvo dudes

Got it:
J Mascis
Asa Irons
Tom Verlaine

Maybe switch asa for some uber skilled jazzer?

I take lessons from the great Robbie Seahag of Sound of Urchin, and I consider myself blessed.

Bert Weedon

Richard Lloyd's online lessons:

http://www.richardlloyd.com/lessons/index.htm