Had I ever received a wink from Cracknell, I'm not sure if I could've been held responsible for my actions. I had a really rather major crush on her back then. I remember the first time I saw her in that video for 'I was Born on Christmas Day', the one where she's wearing those retro fur boots. For about three weeks in the early 90s she was like some kind of Julie Christie for the post 'Baggy' generation. I just watched the video again and, yep, she still does it for me.

i know. even with her lazy eye.

Cracknell's all well & good, but she ain't no Miki-from-Lush :)

Strangely enough, I was thinking about Lush earlier today.

They were rubbish.

lol. yeah. Although thinking about it, are you sure that wasn't the one she supposedly 'winked' at you with? Either way, I prefer to describe it as 'quietly resting'. It's weird really because, to be honest, she was never that attractive anyway. There was just something about her. A face for the times I suppose.

Lazy eye or not, Saint Etienne really were a smashing band. Fox Base Alpha, So Tough, great stuff.

Blimey, does anyone remember World of Twist? I think I might just've been their one dedicated fan and still have their first album on cassette somewhere. They were a bit of a poor man's Saint Etienne in some ways, but blimey, memory lane or what?!?

Now that's the essence of this thread!
Who's the cutest , hotest etc.
D Albarn , J Cocker ? :o

Aside from Sarah Cracknell's obvious hotness, I never understood the appeal of Saint Etienne. They just sound like Ace of Base to me.

There are times, like now, when you just baffle me.

isn't Sarah Cracknell's hotness enough?

I was playing a tape a friend made for me which had the first two albums on. I was with another friend who pointed out how much it sounded like Ace of Base. I said something along the lines of "Holy Joe, you're right". Ever since whenever I hear Saint Etienne I have Ace of Base's All That She Wants going through my head.

Back on the topic slightly. I'll tell you who I always liked far more than they ever deserved ... Gene. Bloody Gene for Christ's sake! I mean looking at them objectively they were the worst of the worst. Maybe even worse than that. But for whatever reason I did actually like them, and even more difficult to explain ... I somehow still do.


Given the fact that you prefixed your reply to your friend with 'Holy Joe,' I take everything back. I might not see the similarity between Ace of Bass and the frankly God-like Saint Etienne myself but your conversational insertion of a 'Holy Joe,' demonstrates only one thing to me ... brilliance.

i Can't agree more ....

I'm not alone! Thank you Lord!

Awful band, and I still find myself fond of them more often than I do something that I know, in my heart of hearts, is better.

I've got a soft spot for Ultrasound, but I try not to mention that in public.

i dont think "holy joe" was a statement of supprise, i think its his friends name. I knew a holy joe once. Fucker owes me a fiver. Pookie, tell your friend to give me my fiver back

Likewise. Luckily, I don't think many fuckers remember them theseadays.

Fucking Hell!!!!!

That is genuinely brilliant to know. I'll stick on a piece of utter, utter tripe like 'London Can You Wait', or 'Olympian' or even, heaven help me, 'Sleep Well Tonight' and I'm thinking, why on earth am I actually enjoying this? And am I alone in this affliction?

I'm convinced it's the drumming. I mean maybe it's brilliant and we just didn't realise. Maybe that fucking imbecile in the beret that plays the drums is the one true talent in the band and it's him, beret boy, who's subliminally drawing us back time and time again to what otherwise remain an utterly shit band. I mean what else can it possibly be? Certainly not Rossiter's lyrics. Anyone who can start a pop song with the line 'my kith and kin' is frankly a cunt.

I like Oasis. Downloaded their gig from Wembley this year and I must say that I was impressed. They are in the best shape since Be Here Now, over ten years.
The first two Oasis' albums are perfect music to get drunk to.

Saint Etienne are great. You people are so full of HATE.

No, Gene were shit.

That's the problem. You're absolutely right. They really are. But it's not even as though I like them in that oh-so-irritating 'so bad they're good' way. I just like them, which is simply preposterous. It's like women who stick with husbands that beat them. Utterly irrational, and impossibly sad.

Finding out people are still listening to Oasis is like finding out people are still trying to vote for Hitler.

mclusky
half man half biscuit to name just 2

what's wrong with Hitler? A big and a great leader who changed history.

I've always said that never trust a person who can't appreciate the first two Oasis albums.

...

lol

the only ones
the la's

and of course, the libertines

apparently one of them is a paedo now

they were welsh

of course

Uh

and Wales is in Britain.

McFly

I may disagree but have to admit, that's brilliant.

blur were cool during their brit pop years...

but their best stuff is 13+think tank mos def... and it's not britpop anymore...

Blur's self-titled is one of the greatest records of the 90s...

Oasis' first album was good...

I think there's definitely a case to be made for Gene being a band for people who like the idea of stadium bombast in theory, but associate Oasis with ghastly football tykes. Genteel stadium indie. There's a niche for you.

gene were pure crap

I'm not sure if it's a case of enjoying 'stadium bombast' in a theoretical way, but certainly there is a stadium-friendly element within a lot of indie music I like which does manage to satisfy on some arcane level. I suppose The Smiths pioneered this approach of writing big songs about intimate subjects - 'There is a Light and it Never Goes Out' being a perfect example. It manages to rid the traditional stadium rock song of its hedonistic bombast while somehow remaining true to its epic sweep. Where it loses out, especially in the case of a band like Gene (as opposed to The Smiths) is in its self-consciously minascule musical ambition. It's interesting that in their wholehearted bid to mimic The Smiths, Gene chose 'There is a Light ...' as their template rather than the far more expansive 'How Soon is Now?' or 'The Queen is Dead'.

Thats a shit reason to hate Oasis, can you not draw upon the many legitimate reasons they provide?

I note that the members of Blur has found it for some reason a good idea to re-unite (mostly for the pay-cheques, I woulda thunk).

I will personally do time for having the pleasure of murdering Messrs Albarn, James and Rowntree. Mr Coxon would get to live, on the proviso that he would skin Paul Weller's face off.