FUCKING A.
I really don't udnerstand this whole bullshit idea that somehow something you liked as an idiot-child is still good today. As everyone knows, IT SIMPLY IS NOT. YOU JUST WANT TO LOOK HIP + IRONIC. I'm surprised there isn't dogshit praise for High School Musical or Rent on the board.

It isn't still good today. It's still the same today.
The difference is that I think that it's not that bad, and you think it's the worst thing ever.

Sporty Spice was the only hot one. In fact, relatively speaking, Melanie Chisholm is still the hottest of the group.

As for their music I found them either terribly forgettable or mind numbingly catch but good on ya for staying true the music you like despite "hip" opinion.

ginger spice was hot for about 2 minutes.

Probably they were the UK's answer to the Max Martin powerhouse of the 90s+early 2000s - Britney, Backstreet boys, Nsync, Ace of base, 5ive, westlife, the list goes on and on... *shrugs*

I do see your point and I assumed on starting this thread some would think it was some attempt at coming across as Ironic. Its not. I really believe some of the music was rather excellent. You could attribute their success to marketing (and that probebly is the biggest reason) but their influence and legacy goes far and beyond the standard manufactured Boy/Girl group thing. The Spice Girls were such a big phenomena that if you were a kid in the late 90's it consumed 2 or 3 years, it was unavoidable. This is why many of us can't help but look back to The Spice Girls with a sense of nostagia. It was the music of our childhood. Does this mean the music is good? I'm not in a position to judge. For me the music goes beyond that and I suppose being that quite a few people on this board are about my age, that was the intention of the thread.

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that's the way it is!

people shouldn't care about the "hip" opinion.
I hate it when people refuse to tell what they used to listen to when they were kids. i've had friends who would talk shit about britney spears, and had her posters everywhere 3 years before.
I stopped talking to those persons because i can't stand it.
I believe people are too worried about what the other might say...i must admit i had been like that at some point of my life. but when i started playing instruments and meeting musicians, I learnt how to find good things in every artist.
I can listen to almost anything right now and find good things on them. britney spears, backstreet boys, 5ive, hanson, justin timberlake, vanessa hudgens (HSM's bitch), SPICE GIRLS, anything. black eyed peas, whatever.
I even used to feel ashamed of ABBA's listeners and now i think they are the greatest. Even A-Teens. I love their first album.
The thing about the Spice Girls is that I find them genious NOW because I liked them once before. If they happened right now, I would find some good parts on their songs but I wouldn't mind to listen to a complete album.

young people today don't even know they're born!

I listened to Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Van Halen, Def leppard, etc. when I was 8-12 or so. Quiet Riot and Def leppard were my favorites.

i think i must have had a bit of quality control when i was younger as i never listened to those artists that contre mentioned.
my first loves were african drumming and bob dylan.

My first love was Opera, then I got onto the BeeGees and Michael Jackson, then I went through a pop-punk (or whatever you wanna call it) stage that led on to a short metal stage. I was snapped out of this by The Smashing Pumpkins that got me into Alternative-Rock which in turn got me into Sonic Youth that lead to indie/experimental music. At this point I rediscovered Classical music and in particular 20th Century Classical music. Now I listen to so much its not a stage anymore.

I don't really get this bullshit idea that whatever you're into now won't change. How old are you? I'd wager younger than me. What d'you think you'll be listening to in ten years? Twenty? Same stuff you're listening to now? You won't. People change. That change means that what you hold so dear when you're younger means much less as you get older. It also means that, as you get older, whatever bullshit indie bollocks you feel about decent pop changes as well, unless you manage to pull off the puritanical lifestyle - in which case: kudos! You're old and no-one likes you.

Seriously, your attitude will mean fuck all in less than 5 years.

If people can recognise music they enjoy, whatever age they are, then more power to them. If other people can recognise that, more power to them also. If other people also don't like it, then more power to them. If other people want to be cunts towards people based on half-arsed, hackneyed opinions that didn't mean anything in 1981, then they should just cunt the fuck off.

And, incidentally, T&B can take the piss out of me because a) He's dying of AIDS & b) He does actually know what he's talking about and is taking the piss in a genuine fashion, rather than being oh-so-fucking-cool and set in his ways.

Yeah we know.



EDIT: Sporty Spice without the lame gym clothes




mmmm yes

i wouldn't know about dogshit, but i love rent.

when i was in high school, they talk a lot of schools on a field trip to see it, i was waaaaaaaaaay into metal, punk, what have you (my favorite bands back then were probably radiohead, massive attack, atari teenage riot...those bands are still on top of my list) and i was all "musicals suck, fucking bollocks, blah blah" i was really upset because they made me go to this shit, but then i saw the play and i was really surprised that i actually liked it, i went out singing the songs and thought they were very well written and fit the story well. i still love it and actually i'm surprised i haven't seen the movie.

high school musical is a crock of shit for the simple fact that probably my favorite "genre" in films is of the teen movie persuasion and they pretty much strip everything that's clever and funny about those movies for dumb songs.

also, i wasn't really young when i got into britney, avril, christina, m2m, etc. i was in high school and college even and had been into music for a long time.

ps: yeah, that's the only hot spice girl.

You bet. Now if she'd stop pretending she's from Liverpool and admit that Widnes is a completely different place, I'll be happy.

To be honest, I was a 90s kid, and I didn't like the Spice Girls... at all. I was listening to KISS [which is, hilariously, just as big a marketting piece of shit as the Spice Girls] from the time I was like, 6 until I discovered better music.
I do ackowledge their presence in my youth, as does anyone of the time period. As to whether or not yr in any position to judge the music of the Spice Girls... care to explain why you aren't??? Of course you are, otherwise, you are apparently living under yr own fascist rule.
To summarize*, of course they were an "important" part of youth culture throughout the 1990's, but that in no way justifies saying they are somehow worth praise or... fuck it, a reunion tour. It's hogwash, and even amongst the people that are going to see any Spice Girls reunion crap (probably teenage girls and the like) it is still about maintaining some hip irony status... seriously. Irony is hip everywhere, not just in the independent music world. Nobody actually cares to see or hear it, they just want to be able to say they have seen or hear it, because that, in this backward-ass society, is totally rad.
And of course, the finale to all my rants and raves, a relation to Nazism and fascism! Nazism was all the rage back in the 30s and so, yet we don't look back on that and say, "Hm, maybe we should give it another shot, some people had fun back then!" **

*summarize my ass! it's longer than the rest of this crap!
**this last bit is kind of a joke... don't take it seriously...

Fuck useless nostalgia.

Ok, whatever.
I'm seeing the Spice Girls on January 24th.

WOhoooo!

Word.
Gracias.

Wait.
I think I saw Jim wearing an Spice Girls' shirt once.

Yr a willful fan of those femmes...respectable to a very small extent.

I'm sorry...I have never met a real spice-girl fan...this isn't a joke? suk for honesty on yr chest?

I don't suk for anything.

me neither...this is as far as I'm going with this thread.

are you talking to me?

it seems so.

I love the Spice Girls and want to have their babies............

i really liked them when i was in 3rd and fourth grade. it'd be fun to see them on tour now, but quite frankly i'd probably hate myself and regret it the minute i'd buy tickets.

TLC was and always will be better.

That's all well and good, but I'm afraid your assumption that all fans of teeny-bop pop have some sort of self-conscious irony thing going on just aint true. A catchy song is a catchy song. Why do you think that stuff is so popular in the first place? Because it's catchy. I like catchy. I'm sorry that you have to go through life being such a miserable fuck.

Kiss are awesome, by the way. (no irony)

tragically under-used phrase.

Keep up the good work!

yeah, anyone who goes to see the spice girls reunion tour i would imagine is probably more likely to be going out of a genuine liking of the spice girls, aside from glice, he's just trying to set the cat amongst the pidgeons, like the bros song that he thinks he likes.

Two words for you: Jail. Bait. Perhaps cat amoungst the pidgeons [sic] is some sort of metaphor for bumming teenagers?

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I looooove catchy songs.

I hate people who are ashamed of liking catchy songs. Ashamed enough not to admit that they like a catchy song.

There are lots of people like that over here.

I'm well passed having elitist views on music. When I have a party, songs can range from My Chemical Romance all the way to Phillip Glass and Shostakovich and everything else in between. The joy of music is discovering something new and exciting, now of course it would be stupid not to acknowledge certain artistic and asthetic prejudces but the less of these you have the better.

K-Krack the reason I say "i'm not in position to judge" is because whether it is good on any level is irrelevant to me. When I listen to it im immediately drawn back to a really great time in my life. The Spice Girls had a huge cultural impact, if you are of a certain age the music makes you re-live that time and place and that goes beyond all the hip, ironic and elitist reasons people may think. Every kid usually has some music to which he has a certain degree of nostagia and why is the Spice Girls any different? The reason is because The Spice Girls are a real unifier. They defined an age. Now this probebly meant a lot more to you if you were between the ages of 8-13. People forget how great it was to have a band that was your band, not something your parents liked or something you picked up from your older brother. These wer the days before we understood youth orientated marketing so it was as real as anything else. If I was a little older perhaps I would have wished the whole annoying fad away and spent to hours instead up in my room listening to OK Computer and A Thousand Leaves.

:) exactly.
i even have their dolls

SHAJHJA

Haha. Bet those last two get the party jumping.;)

This is a superb point. And, at the time of the Spice Girls, I was in that awkward 'I want real music' phase of teenhood and, strangely enough, sat in my room listening to Ok Computer and A Thousand Leaves. Some of the music from that period I was wrong to overlook, methinks. I wouldn't include the Spice Girls in that, but that's probably a personal thing.

Anyone who seriously thinks that the Spice Girls were truly influential or 'created' attitudes in the music business needs to get their head checked, and as soon as possible too. They perhaps incremented the amount of shit that this world has to bear on its shoulders, but that shit was around before they creeped out. It's just a case of them getting luckier than most with their wrong doings. Sorry, but you've got to draw a line somewhere or the silliness goes on and on.