I really like Agoraphobic Nosebleed - you should check out 'Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope'.

I prefer A-side, albeit the B-side includes my possible fave song on that album, "Conservative Shithead".

aint therre a japgrind band called congenital haemorroids?

quite posssibly, there's a jap grindcore band called bathtub shitter.

i got the hatebeak/caninus split 7" the other day, it's pretty fun. for those who don't know caninus have a couple of dogs as singers, and hatebeak have a parrot as a singer. caninus even supply a lyric sheet.

Oh Hetbeak!Isn't 'Beak Of Putrefaction' just awesome?Have you ever heard that Jingle Cats record?

i've always liked Nasum
such a tragedy tho... but yeah..they were good.

my fave is "life?".

Is there a little joke in here, based on A Silver Mt Zion having the name of a type of metal in their name? If there is, I just need to say that that's the funniest thing that Hayden has ever posted. Nice one, kiddo.

That's very ambitious, Mr L. I admire your optimism.

pig destroyers "38 counts of battery".... heavy rotation here, one of my new favorites. there was a string of shows pig destroyer and secret diaries (jessica rylan+leslie keffer) played together, would really like to hear that!

going to see anal cunt in march, psyched beyond belief.

No one mentioned Cannibal Corpse yet? I'll be damned.



Their latest album. A lot better than the previous ones, though Tomb Of The Mutilated is a real classic.

yeah i'd like to hear that pig destroyer and rylan thing. i thought it was donna parker in secret diaries, not leslie keffer?

yeah! you are right, getting my grrls mixed up.

Old hat.Thanks.

Grind bands have the most awesome names.

i was going to make a thread with a poll asking for the best napalm lineup, but this is better.

i think side a is more memorable and better, but overall, feto > scum.

and yeah, only shane embury remains from the scum side b lineup.

i slept on this threat, i listen to tons of grindcore:

early carcass
early napalm
early bolt thrower
early entombed
agoraphobic nosebleed
pig destoyer
discordance axis
anal cunt
spazz
fuck on the beach
cephalic carnage
assuck
nausea
orchid
the red chord
the daughters (theyve recently encorporated some birthday party influences into their grind, awesome band)
extreme noise terror
total fucking destruction
nasum
genghis tron (newer band, fall into the cybergrind of the likes of agoraphonic nosebleed, but they got some more definitive hardcore electronics reminescent of atari teenage riot goin on, i was so pissed when i heard this band because they sound exactly like my bro and i's new band or at least what we had in mind for our sound.)
cattle decapatation
meat shits
psycho
phobia
terrorizer

bands like melt banana and painkiller and naked city all combined grindcore with hardcore and free jazz and noise so you can include them to reallllllllly stretch the term.

What about Siege?!!

They in my view were the real pioneers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRonZbYL3Yk (the sound quality is really terrible on this though)

i hate cattle decap.

theyre the least good on that list.

When I think grindcore... I think Napalm Death, Assuck, Phobia, etc. Everything else that isn't along those lines could be classified in more specific genres. With that said...

listen to power fucking violence!

Infest
Capitalist Casualties
Scholastic Deth
Magrudergrind

just to name a few. It's my personal favorite style of grindcore and probably some of the most aggressive music to ever grace this earth. Dig into the early 90s West Coast hardcore. shit was ridiculous.

and if you're interested in more modern bands that you might catch on tour, check out the Houston/Gulf Coast, TX scene: Insect Warfare, Pretty Little Flower, 50/50 all deliver brutal fucking grind.

I take that back.

by the way, anyone (besides atsonicpark) know or is into XXX MANIAK?

the only band i can think of that makes every single power electronics band sound like singer songwriter folkies.



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but to keep the ball rolling, let me ask you a question:

is grindcore metal anymore? i mean, it surely was, especially with napalm, carcass, terrorizer but, i think (and here's my opinion) that most grind post-discordance axis is not metal anymore as much as power electronics or industrial are metal.

what do you think?

Wasn't Merzbow influenced by the guitar smashing of (alleged proto-metallers) the Who and Hendrix? Hawkwind have some astonishing noise sections. Perhaps metal has just reconvened with its psychedelic roots, and found industrial and noise along the way.

It's not far away from asking if doom is metal; most of it, yes, but Sunn and Earth are talking about La Monte Young; the weird thing at the moment, I find, is that metal is suddenly one of the more creative and absorbent of genres. There's only a degree of seperation between Abruptum and Derek Bailey. Madness, I tells you.

my point was mainly that, while it might be metal influenced (or, in the case of which industrial we're talking, metal influencing) you'd be hard pressed to find pantera tshirt wearing metalheads headbanging to spk or ramleh.

and i do agree about the abruptum and derek bailey relationship.

ive always thought that grindcore is the most versatile genre of metal, but still metal nonetheless. it can be argued that it is more rooted in hardcore punk though. either way, i think theres a shit load of amazing grindcore bands.

Is Grinderman grindcore?

sorry glice, but this is The Wire talk.

^ Ha ha!

they are THE grindcore band. without them the genre wouldn't exist anymore. didn't you see nick cave grow long hair? he started wearing tight black jeans and high top nikes for the grinderman shows too.

Okay, I wasn't sure. Thanks.

Putrescence
Fuck...I'm Dead
Captain Cleanoff
Unholy Grave

Thanks for the recommendation. Precisely what my Saturday morning needs.

Captain Cleanoff, Pisschrist (Grindcore AND really really hardcore Punk) , Amputated, Rort and so on.

Captain Cleanoff win,
did you go to their gig at the warehouse a month ago or something?

i've only been able to get into pig destroyer. everything else i've heard bores me after like...two minutes.