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Cantankerous 08.09.2008 02:06 AM

i need a disco nap

Toilet & Bowels 08.09.2008 05:28 AM

scorpios are obsessed with sex. aries are stubborn, bloody minded, and only see things in terms of yes or no, there's no inbetween with aries people.

terriblecanyons 08.09.2008 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
scorpios are obsessed with sex. aries are stubborn, bloody minded, and only see things in terms of yes or no, there's no inbetween with aries people.


Thanks :(

MellySingsDoom 08.09.2008 06:19 AM

What about Geminis, T&B? Are we all prone to liking Whitehouse or summat?

nicfit 08.09.2008 06:46 AM

and capricornsss?

the ikara cult 08.09.2008 08:02 AM

If people really believe in this stuff why dont they test it and present it for the nobel prize in physics, which they would certainly win seeing as it would indicate that Einstein, Newton, and Steven Hawking had it all wrong. Or is Physics just a vast conspiracy against nice wind chimes now?

Kloriel 08.09.2008 08:29 AM

are they mutually exclusive? i know one dude on that list was wrong at least once. and if you go off the deep end with physics, doesn't it seem incredibly mystical?


I'm also a scorpio, sagitarious rising. i like the floor and the walls described by physics though. Cus I'm quite sure I can't fly.

the ikara cult 08.09.2008 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kloriel
are they mutually exclusive? i know one dude on that list was wrong at least once. and if you go off the deep end with physics, doesn't it seem incredibly mystical?


I'm also a scorpio, sagitarious rising. i like the floor and the walls described by physics though. Cus I'm quite sure I can't fly.


Well theyre all part of the same lineage, and the only way to know if they were wrong is to demonstrate it. So for me, its nice thinking of all these mystical supernatural things as stories and possibilities (Without the mentalism of Religion we wouldnt have the Sistine Chapel) but i hate it when people talk as if its DEFINITELY true. The point about science is you have to test it over and over and over to be sure that what you first saw wasnt a fluke.
I know exactly what you mean about the bounds of perception and how it is plastic and changeable by external means, but it wasnt a hallucination that invented pennicilin or the combustion engine so i think we should leave the practical, real-world stuff to science.

I am in a mood today.

DeadDiscoDildo 08.09.2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
As a Virgo, I'm suppose to over think things and be a major organization freak.

While the former may apply, the latter is straight up wrong.


Same here, I analyze things and etc. but I am not an orginization freak.

I am more of a deep thinker and a philosopher, and it seems Virgo is more about logic..

Kloriel 08.09.2008 09:23 AM

responding to Ikara

Isn't that the problem though - the practical, real-world stuff that astrology seems to focus on isn't exactly answerable with the scientific method, unless of course you have a highly advanced degree in neurobiology, or can "pick up" scientific principles without starting from the beginning. Though there's always psychology. I wonder what would happen if someone overlayed their astrological sign with their Jungian type test?

terriblecanyons 08.09.2008 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult
If people really believe in this stuff why dont they test it and present it for the nobel prize in physics, which they would certainly win seeing as it would indicate that Einstein, Newton, and Steven Hawking had it all wrong. Or is Physics just a vast conspiracy against nice wind chimes now?


What does physics have anything whatsoever to do with astrology? Anyone who thinks the stars can really, TRULY tell them who they are should probably seek counseling, sure, but I don't get the connection.

Toilet & Bowels 08.09.2008 09:52 AM

how would you use physics to test similarities, or disimilarities in people's personalities etc?

melly & nicfit - i don't know enough gemini or capricorn people to have formulated any theories about their personality types. my views on aries and scorpios are based on experience.

atari 2600 08.09.2008 09:58 AM

 

the ikara cult 08.09.2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kloriel
responding to Ikara

Isn't that the problem though - the practical, real-world stuff that astrology seems to focus on isn't exactly answerable with the scientific method, unless of course you have a highly advanced degree in neurobiology, or can "pick up" scientific principles without starting from the beginning. Though there's always psychology. I wonder what would happen if someone overlayed their astrological sign with their Jungian type test?


Well the principle of infering stuff is something we all do, we notice patterns and learn that event B follows event A, so its natural to try and attribute things to a cause. Thats why ive always thought the invention of Gods is a natural step in our evolution. On a pedantic note, the Freudian stuff is Psychoanalysis not Psychology, and its just as unverifiable as astrology.
I mean its true that this stuff is just fun for most of us but it depresses me when i see vulnerable people being swindled out of cash by these cynical paranormal businesspeople.

the ikara cult 08.09.2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
how would you use physics to test similarities, or disimilarities in people's personalities etc?


You dont.

Toilet & Bowels 08.09.2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult
it depresses me when i see vulnerable people being swindled out of cash by these cynical paranormal businesspeople.


not that i encourage swindling, but those people are grown ups and are presumabley capable of thinking about what they are doing, so if they give their money to a medium or whatever than they get what they deserve.

the ikara cult 08.09.2008 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
not that i encourage swindling, but those people are grown ups and are presumabley capable of thinking about what they are doing, so if they give their money to a medium or whatever than they get what they deserve.


I agree, thats what makes it so depressing.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.09.2008 03:05 PM

I am a Leo

that's all I know

acousticrock87 08.09.2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Here's a bit of my horoscope chart (for Gemini):

Rising Sign is in 13 Degrees Virgo
You tend to be very shy and not very self-assertive. You are supercritical about how you appear to others. Even though you may think you are uninteresting and dull, you are actually quite soft- spoken, orderly, neat and very likable. You are a perfectionist with high standards, and at times you can be quite tactless in pointing out the faults of others. Very practical, efficient and purposeful, your appearance and bearing reflect your need to appear graceful, sensible and reserved. You have a crisp, no-nonsense approach to dealing with others. Never lazy or self-indulgent, you tend to be dedicated to the work ethic

That sounds like me.

My rising sign (Leo) is definitely wrong. My normal sign (Gemini) is definitely right.

floatingslowly 08.09.2008 03:34 PM

gravitational pull has no terminus. all mass in the universe is constantly pulling on every other mass. distance determines force, however at this moment you are being effected by a solar body billions of light years from you. it is trying to move you toward it. nearby masses overcome the pulling force so you do not ever consciously notice it (although I suspect that you ultimately do and the brain processes it as "time").

astronomy (as a science) can help describe the deep-time fluctuation of the COUNTLESS gravitational fields around you; however, the computations required to obtain flawless readings is currently beyond humans' capability.

astronomy as we know it these days is based more on Gypsy Fortunetelling and less on the actual astrophysics involved.

ultimately, ignoring it would be foolish while putting too much faith in it would be insane.

 
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sarramkrop 08.09.2008 03:37 PM

I can often spot a piscean, even if it doesn't make much sense.

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I can often spot a piscean, even if it doesn't make much sense.

i can usually guess someone's sign correctly after talking to them for a bit and looking at their features closely enough.

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
scorpios are obsessed with sex.

yes. i live with one, i should know.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.11.2008 12:46 AM

what's up with leos???
are we some badass motherfuckas or what?

terriblecanyons 08.11.2008 01:02 AM

Most of you are stubborn assholes.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.11.2008 01:03 AM

That sucks

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
what's up with leos???
are we some badass motherfuckas or what?

i love y'all. my best friend fo LYFE is a leo.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.11.2008 01:16 AM

holllller
I just turned 21 tonight at midnight, I can't believe I made it
Never thought I'd be here today

Pookie 08.11.2008 04:49 AM

Think about astrology seriously for about 30 seconds...


...now do you still believe it?

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 04:51 AM

why yes, i do.

think about religion for 30 seconds.

now think about the fact that religion is not based upon calculation.

astrology is.

Pookie 08.11.2008 04:57 AM

Astrology is based on superstition and ignorance, just like religion.

And like religion, you'll believe it if you want to.

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 05:00 AM

:rolleyes:

speaking of ignorance...

MellySingsDoom 08.11.2008 05:55 AM

i like Chinese astrology - (me be born in the Year of the Boar)....Melly, the Year of the Bore, hur hur hur - I might pop out later and buy a Chinese astrology book...

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 05:57 AM

i find that to be very interesting as well.

i'm a horse.

Pookie 08.11.2008 05:59 AM

Chinese astrology is also baloney. And I'm not racialist. I buy a Chinkie at least twice a month.

MellySingsDoom 08.11.2008 06:02 AM

^^^ Ner ner ner Cantanky and me like Chinese astrology ner ner ner ner :p :p

For some reason, Pooke, I'm imagining you as a ska-skinhead with a copy the Star on the kitchen table , cup of tea in hand, and The Selecter blaring out of the radio.

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 06:02 AM

i imagine him as an angry old man.

Pookie 08.11.2008 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
For some reason, Pooke, I'm imagining you as a ska-skinhead with a copy the Star on the kitchen table , cup of tea in hand, and The Selecter blaring out of the radio.

I can be anything you want me to be;) .

MellySingsDoom 08.11.2008 06:06 AM

Well, my grumpy old git persona is a match for any angry geezers. here be Melly at work earlier on today:

 

Cantankerous 08.11.2008 06:07 AM

you need to exfoliate
yer lookin a little crusty, mate



oh shit i just made a poem.

MellySingsDoom 08.11.2008 06:09 AM

My sweaty face has taken it's toll
Too many year's of drinking alochol.

Hmmm, I'm thinking a duet's coming up here. Think Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood.


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