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avantgarde1 02.24.2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
super_charger is the new king of comedy.


co-sign.

nature scene 02.24.2008 08:43 PM

who knew Ween could create such a rift?

it's so true that you either love them or hate them... i just don't understand why people feel it necessary to tell us over and over again that they hate them, but it is amusing.

very interesting that atsonicpark finds the Pod the most tolerable of the albums, that's the one I just can't stomach - a few good songs but mostly just the product of glue sniffing.

Chocolate and Cheese? eh... it's not my favorite either, but you can't beat the live version of Spinal Meningitis.

I think Quebec is hands down their strongest album. godWEENsatan is an album everyone should listen to at least once. I also think it's great that the band that wrote "Pork Roll Egg and Cheese" and "Poopship Destroyer" also went to Nashville to record an entire country album with some of the great artists from the Nashville country scene.

They absolutely do have the gift for songwriting like Lennon and McCartney - and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Ween is better than the Beatles - but I think they understand pop music the same way. The opening song (Exactly Where I'm At) on White Pepper - their homage to the two beatles albums that clearly inspired their work - is a perfect example of how these guys understand what it takes to make great pop music. It's just that the Beatles never had songs about mutant invasions, mollusks, dying ponies, or speed-driven gangbangs - so people find it easier to listen to them.

avantgarde1 02.24.2008 08:50 PM

it is amusing........ because they suck soooooooooooooooooo much.
bwahahahahahahahahaha

nature scene 02.24.2008 09:04 PM

i think you're a closet Ween fan.

it's ok to admit it, we're all friends here.

atsonicpark 02.24.2008 09:13 PM

Well, shit, I actually meant the mollusk, not sure why I said the pod (probably because I was listening to breeders - pod earlier).

But pod isn't TERRIBLE.. just.. I dunno.

Like I said, I can't deny.. they're talented as fuck songwriters... they just don't make music that appeals to me. I mean, Dave Matthews is talented as hell, but .. it's the same thing there.

atsonicpark 02.24.2008 09:14 PM

"I'LL BE YOUR JOHNNY ON THE SPOT" is better than the entire beatles catalogue though.

nature scene 02.24.2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Well, shit, I actually meant the mollusk, not sure why I said the pod (probably because I was listening to breeders - pod earlier).

But pod isn't TERRIBLE.. just.. I dunno.

Like I said, I can't deny.. they're talented as fuck songwriters... they just don't make music that appeals to me. I mean, Dave Matthews is talented as hell, but .. it's the same thing there.


the mollusk... that makes a lot more sense to me, and i absolutely understand that Ween makes music that doesn't appeal to some/a lot of people. everyone has their own tastes.


Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
"I'LL BE YOUR JOHNNY ON THE SPOT" is better than the entire beatles catalogue though.


no doubt.

I'll be your johnny on the spot
I'll be your johnny on the spot
My daddy died, left me all he's got
I'll be your johnny on the spot

I get up early in the morn
I get up early in the morn
I slop the pigs
Momma shucks the corn
I get up early in the morn

I got a Chevy with a Mopar cam
I got a Chevy with a Mopar cam
I got a Chevy with a-Mopar-cam
I'll be your johnny on the spot

atsonicpark 02.24.2008 09:33 PM

That song's absolutely amazing.

One of the first Ween songs I ever heard. Imagine my shock when not all their material wasn't like that..

I understand their genre-hopping songwriting talent is unparalleled and it seems that part of their aesthetic is alienating their... potential fans.. I'm not alienated, just frustrated, because they could obviously produce some really great music. It just doesn't appeal to me as a whole. But that's okay.

I can see the appeal; they just don't appeal to me.

nature scene 02.24.2008 09:38 PM

i'm with you on the alienation thing. I like most of their stuff, but they certainly do like to fuck with people, and it often seems like they're trying to sabotage their chances of being one of the great rocks bands in history by releasing some of the material they do.

but i just don't think they give a fuck, and that's cool by me.

Everyneurotic 02.24.2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nature scene
...godWEENsatan is an album everyone should listen to at least once...


this album is half ok and half nails on chalkboard, the whole time i was thinking that maybe you need to be as stoned on pot as they are to enjoy it.

that song at the end of the spongebob movie is really good, though.

nature scene 02.24.2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
this album is half ok and half nails on chalkboard


i'd say that's spot on. well - half good and half nails on chalkboard.

I think they also did some music on the X-files once.

They did do a song for Pizza Hut, but the song was never used because Pizza Hut fired the agency that hired Ween. It's called "Where'd the Cheese Go?"

thewall91 02.25.2008 10:46 AM

the z-rock album as a whole sucked, but "the meadow" is one of the greatest songs ever written.

i went through an intense love of ween for years. i still like their songs, but i don't really listen to the albums in full anymore. i think they represent more a time in my life now. one that involved a lot of pot.

atari 2600 02.25.2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thewall91
the z-rock album as a whole sucked, but "the meadow" is one of the greatest songs ever written.

i went through an intense love of ween for years. i still like their songs, but i don't really listen to the albums in full anymore. i think they represent more a time in my life now. one that involved a lot of pot.


Oh yeah, remembering you mentioning "the meadow" last time around...

Onani Nic 02.25.2008 05:47 PM

I guess I'm one of the few people here that think Ween are pretty great and I'm not usually a fan of "funny" music. Don't think I'll ever need more than the three albums I own though...

cellscape 02.26.2008 01:23 PM

I've always listed Ween as one of my favorite bands. They are definately great song writers and very talented. Plus they put on one of the best live shows right now. I always wondered what a 3 hour 33 song Sonic Youth show would be like with songs from every album. I'm still a bit burned out on them right now. I guess I've just heard their music so many times plus I'm not a big fan of La Cucaracha.

Anyway I agree, EyE didn't help what was already a mediocre album. I think I heard that Ween wrote most of the music, sent him the tape, and got it back with him just screaming through out all the songs. They were pretty dissapointed.

atsonicpark 02.26.2008 02:34 PM

My friend is part of some ween fan club and has something like 100 Ween bootlegs. I never need to hear poopship destroyer again.

Same friend has EVERYTHING FRANK ZAPPA HAS EVER DONE.

Nice guy but..


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