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HaydenAsche 03.14.2008 10:04 AM

U2
Pavement
Rolling Stones
AC/DC
Smashing Pumpkins

Glice 03.14.2008 10:18 AM

Bands that are bad/ ok/ good but whose influence is vastly overplayed (this applies mainly to this board):

1. Sonic Youth
2. My Bloody Valentine
3. Jesus and Mary Chain
4. The Pixies
5. Dinosaur [Jr]

Bands whose influence entirely mystifies me:

1. The Beatles
2. Dame Dave
3. G!YBE
4. The Doors
5. Pavement

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Jesus and Mary Chain, Massive Attack, Green Day (And everyone else responsible for pop-punk), RHCP, Guns 'n' Roses

jesus and mary chain?

i've seen the talking heads, radiohead, the stones, zeppelin, etc in this thread, and...
good lord, you people have your priorities all fucked up. it doesn't have to be arty or poetic to be deliciously GOOD music. it can just be fun.

however i understand the hate for RHCP. they just suck.

Glice 03.14.2008 10:46 AM

RHCP seminal though? Aren't they just the most prevalent example of a very shit form of music?

✌➬ 03.14.2008 10:47 AM

Isn't the term "seminal" by itself subjective?

So bands like RHCP can fall into this list.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 10:57 AM

the first 4 RHCP albums are fucking amazing good

just because funk ain't "cool" no more....

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 10:58 AM

I got some "seminal" shit right here in my hand, there it is!

tesla69 03.14.2008 11:07 AM

[quote=batreleaser]
2. sioxie and the banshees
to my ears JuJu is still a fantastic psychedelic pop album. "Nightshift" is just drenched in layers of thick rich syrupy guitar. wouldn't want to hear anything after that lp though.

4. the talking heads (except remain in light)
I'd argue they were pretty much great through Remain in LIght. But then they sucked. and david bernie really sucked.

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
the first 4 RHCP albums are fucking amazing good

just because funk ain't "cool" no more....

the only funk that was EVER cool is parliament/funkadelic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
RHCP seminal though? Aren't they just the most prevalent example of a very shit form of music?

precisely.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
the only funk that was EVER cool is parliament/funkadelic


ahhh, you are but a wee babe in the woods of funk. that explains everything

sly & The Family Stone
Curtis Mayfield
JAMES MOTHERFUCKING BROWN
even Stevie Wonder got down with his bad funk self
Ohio Players
fucking gap Band
THE BAR KAYS


funk can not only move, it can remove, dig?

batreleaser 03.14.2008 11:20 AM

lotta pavement hatred, i find that strange for some reason, (oh yeah, slanted and enchanted)

batreleaser 03.14.2008 11:27 AM

slanted and enchanted being the reason i find it strange, its a perfect record

SuperCreep 03.14.2008 11:29 AM

There's a handful of "seminal bands" that I despise. I'm just going to limit it down to five that I find absolutely no worth in. Some of the bands I was thinking about listing before I actually do like a few songs by.

1. Dream Theater
2. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
3. Aerosmith
4. GnR
5. Slayer

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 11:44 AM

I fucking HATE aerosmith

forgot about how much I hate them.

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
ahhh, you are but a wee babe in the woods of funk. that explains everything

sly & The Family Stone
Curtis Mayfield
JAMES MOTHERFUCKING BROWN
even Stevie Wonder got down with his bad funk self
Ohio Players
fucking gap Band
THE BAR KAYS


funk can not only move, it can remove, dig?

i was going to mention james brown and sly stone but they're soul (which i absolutely love) if you ask me. I HATE STEVIE WONDER.

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
lotta pavement hatred, i find that strange for some reason, (oh yeah, slanted and enchanted)

i despise them

Toilet & Bowels 03.14.2008 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i was going to mention james brown and sly stone but they're soul (which i absolutely love) if you ask me.


it depends what era of james brown you're talking about really, but the 70s stuff in funk for sure.

anywayz, some people probably need to read this:

Seminal

1.pertaining to, containing, or consisting of semen. 2.Botany. of or pertaining to seed. 3.having possibilities of future development. 4.highly original and influencing the development of future events: a seminal artist; seminal ideas.

davenotdead 03.14.2008 01:31 PM

why the pavement hate?

i hate aerosmith
u2
gnR
and i really dont like the stones either

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.14.2008 01:40 PM

1 Led Zeppelin
2 Beatles
3 Morrisey
4 Smashing Pumpkins
5 Metallica

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
it depends what era of james brown you're talking about really, but the 70s stuff in funk for sure.

anywayz, some people probably need to read this:

Seminal

1.pertaining to, containing, or consisting of semen. 2.Botany. of or pertaining to seed. 3.having possibilities of future development. 4.highly original and influencing the development of future events: a seminal artist; seminal ideas.

yeah no shit to that...

i really prefer 60s james brown

batreleaser 03.14.2008 02:00 PM

yes DREAM THEATER ARE THE FUCFKING WORST!!!!! im taking a classical music appreciation class right now and theres this fat fucking slob of a kid who plays piano and wears dream theater shirts EVERYDAY! he once tried to tell me that dream theater are the most innovative band ever and without them there wouldnt be any bands that make long songs, he really said that, so i told him if he didnt shut his fucking mouth i was gonna give him the worst pink belly imaginable.

uhler 03.14.2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
yes DREAM THEATER ARE THE FUCFKING WORST!!!!! im taking a classical music appreciation class right now and theres this fat fucking slob of a kid who plays piano and wears dream theater shirts EVERYDAY! he once tried to tell me that dream theater are the most innovative band ever and without them there wouldnt be any bands that make long songs, he really said that, so i told him if he didnt shut his fucking mouth i was gonna give him the worst pink belly imaginable.


this cook i work with loves them so much. he's really into prog rock, which i am too, but when he starts talking about how punk rock would have been better if the bands had more talent, i want to tell him to shut the fuck up. i try explaining him that what makes punk so special is that anyone can do it, but he keeps talking about how music should be about only a handful of people playing amazing music and people who can't play (or i should say people who can't play yes) should just do it as a hobby.

batreleaser 03.14.2008 02:27 PM

bottomline-music is an art form, you can play guitar like a god, but if you are not an artistic/creative person, youre gonna make garbage music. i always bring up how a band like creed could play their instruments good, nuff said.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 02:45 PM

James Brown CREATED funk (SEMINAL)

and Sly & The Family Stone are FUNK baby, soulful funk no doubt, but FUNK

atsonicpark 03.14.2008 02:47 PM

People will kill me for this, but I was never a huge fan of Black Flag. They're okay, but they never really struck me as anything special............ I've listened to everything they've done and they honestly have some really really terrible shit. They have some really exciting straight-forward punk songs with odd noisey microtonal guitar solos, but even those sometimes go on for too long. Not a bad band or anything and I don't despise them, just don't think they're as good as their reputation suggests...

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 02:48 PM

yes, I also second the me no likey Black Flag, and they are definitely seminal.

uhler 03.14.2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
People will kill me for this, but I was never a huge fan of Black Flag. They're okay, but they never really struck me as anything special............ I've listened to everything they've done and they honestly have some really really terrible shit. They have some really exciting straight-forward punk songs with odd noisey microtonal guitar solos, but even those sometimes go on for too long. Not a bad band or anything and I don't despise them, just don't think they're as good as their reputation suggests...


i also think they have some really bad stuff and they're my second favorite band. but the great stuff is what puts them above most of the bands that are out there. like i said they're my second favorite band and i've been a huge fan for over 13 years now, so of course i'm going to be biased. i have to go to work now, but i can go on forever about black flag and how amazing they are to me.

atsonicpark 03.14.2008 02:56 PM

I can see how they could connect to people, honestly, they've just been lost to me.

Another band I hate I forgot to mention earlier is Beastie Boys.

sarramkrop 03.14.2008 02:58 PM

I never understood what was seminal about the Sex Pistols, amongst others.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 03:30 PM

sex pistols made all the punks following think that punk meant being hooligans with safety pins and spikey bondage gear. we still have not outgrown it. sad really.

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 03:36 PM

the sex pistols were really nothing more than early rock n roll with torn up clothing

if anyone here says they hate david bowie i will find out where they live and kill them. or give them an orange mullet.

nicfit 03.14.2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
or give them an orange mullet.

you should stop listening to paramore.

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
you should stop listening to paramore.

who the fuck are paramore? is that the band with the girl with the david bowie hair?

sarramkrop 03.14.2008 03:41 PM

The Sex Pistols looked great and even had a couple of songs that I enjoy blasting every now and then, but it's their seminal status as a band that I don't get. They were socially exciting etc etc for the youth of the time, but musically they weren't a patch on bands like, say, Kraftwerk, who were seriously seminal, at least musically.

Cantankerous 03.14.2008 03:42 PM

i just googled them, she doesnt' have a mullet, she has a shag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
The Sex Pistols looked great and even had a couple of songs that I enjoy blasting every now and then, but it's their seminal status as a band that I don't get. They were socially exciting etc etc for the youth of the time, but musically they weren't a patch on bands like, say, Kraftwerk, who were seriously seminal, at least musically.


they werent innovative at all. just rock n roll is all they were.

Torn Curtain 03.14.2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
if anyone here says they hate david bowie i will find out where they live and kill them. or give them an orange mullet.


Jarvis Cocker thinks Bowie completely ripped off Scott Walker. There may be some truth to it but that's a bit excessive in my opinion (I don't think their music are that similar).

sarramkrop 03.14.2008 04:04 PM

 


He ripped off this dude.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 04:14 PM

I Fucking Hate David Bowie And I Want Him Dead.

Rob Instigator 03.14.2008 04:16 PM

David Bowie & Elton John. end our misery, kill them both, and throw in Billy Joel while you're at it.

Pookie 03.14.2008 04:18 PM

Don't despise, but don't "get":

1) Bowie
2) Iggy

Can't think of anymore at the moment.

sarramkrop 03.14.2008 04:19 PM

 


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