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EMMAh 03.20.2008 09:39 PM

If you can't see the belt, then why not wear it? No need to go beltless if the belt it needed and hidden when worn.

gmku 03.20.2008 09:42 PM

Oh, I do wear the belt. And I don't mind the belt. In fact, I really like it. I'm just saying it feels kind of like a shame that I have this kind of groovey belt but nobody can see it. Tucking my T-shirt in looks dorky, going for the supermodel half-tucked look looks dorky. So there's no good way to show it off, is what I'm saying.

Sonic Youth 37 03.20.2008 09:46 PM

Yeah, I wear a size 29/32 Skinny Levi's and still have to wear a belt. I'm 6'1" and weight 130lbs and there's nothing I can do about it.

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Thought the thread title would keep this open beyond the scope of my immediate problem.

I need some advice about tailoring my jeans. I bought a coupla American Eagle low-rise slim boot cut jeans a few months back. For the first coupla months they fit well--snug in the waist but not too tight. Now after several washings, they seem to have loosened up quite a bit in the waist, so much so that I have to wear a belt with them.

So... Is it worth having them tailored to "snug up" the waist again? As in, taking them to a professional?

Or should I just live with wearing these with a belt and feeling that they're a little loose?

Major dilemma, I know. Hey, I have no life.

I'm putting myself out here, so respond kindly. What do you think?


i dont know what they look like on so i cant say
try a smaller size

i thought i wore a sz. 25 jeans until i started wearing th esame pair every day and theyd sag in the ass and generally look shapeless and disgusting so i wear a sz 24 (approximately equivalent to a 0 but it depends on the manufacturer)
and with vintage you never know what sz. to buy, you just have to try them on.

Glice 03.20.2008 11:26 PM

I don't really understand what half of you are gashing about, but there's really little point thinking about how you're looking if you're not wearing a belt. Seriously, unless you're 17/ female, wear a belt.

Cantankerous 03.20.2008 11:38 PM

like how about getting pants that fit instead of having to wear a belt

phoenix 03.20.2008 11:56 PM

belts are hot on guys anyway. you know. they could spank you if they wanted.

just wear it and quit whining. :P

belt > no belt.

sarramkrop 03.21.2008 06:38 AM

Whatever you do, wear jeans that are well cut in a manly way, which means that they don't make you look:

1. Like your mother dressed you.

2. Like a girl.

3. Like you need fashion advice.

4. Like you are not comfortable in them.



Unless you have the skinny and emaciated body of a heroin addict or you are plain handsome, please do avoid extremely skinny jeans. In saying that, some guys can pull it off and get away with it, but still a man needs to look like a man, unless you are going for the full on extravagant and quirky look. AWWWWRIGHT?

gmku 03.21.2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
like how about getting pants that fit instead of having to wear a belt


Because I have to buy things off the rack, like all the rest of the po' folk of the world. I get them to fit as well as I can, but, you know, I'm not buying them tailor-fit from a designer.

gmku 03.21.2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
belts are hot on guys anyway. you know. they could spank you if they wanted.

just wear it and quit whining. :P

belt > no belt.


So should I wear my shirts tucked in?

floatingslowly 03.21.2008 08:35 AM

I hear that ugg boots are making a comeback.

they come up high enough you might be able to tuck yr shirt into them.

gmku 03.21.2008 09:22 AM

Nah, I'm not going for the sorority chick look.

Glice 03.21.2008 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Whatever you do, wear jeans that are well cut in a manly way, which means that they don't make you look:

1. Like your mother dressed you.

2. Like a girl.

3. Like you need fashion advice.

4. Like you are not comfortable in them.



Unless you have the skinny and emaciated body of a heroin addict or you are plain handsome, please do avoid extremely skinny jeans. In saying that, some guys can pull it off and get away with it, but still a man needs to look like a man, unless you are going for the full on extravagant and quirky look. AWWWWRIGHT?


Sagely advice. I'd add that very baggy jeans always, always looked shit. And unless you're going for the continental gay look, shin-length trousers are a deeply poor idea.

gmku 03.21.2008 11:47 AM

All sounds like good advice, even though it's pretty vague.

Norma J 03.21.2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Sagely advice. I'd add that very baggy jeans always, always looked shit. And unless you're going for the continental gay look, shin-length trousers are a deeply poor idea.


:eek: what are you lot saying? I have the continental gay look? :eek:

I agree with the baggy jeans comment, they've ALWAYS looked shit. I feel uncomfortable in anything that's not tight.

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
:eek: what are you lot saying? I have the continental gay look? :eek:

I agree with the baggy jeans comment, they've ALWAYS looked shit. I feel uncomfortable in anything that's not tight.

No, but you are handsome. See my post above.

phoenix 03.22.2008 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
So should I wear my shirts tucked in?


only with suit pants and tailored shirts

tailored shirts and jeans = shirt out

t shirt and tailored pants = shirt out

t shirt and jeans = shirt out


etc


the shirt should just be kind of short enough to just cover the belt area. a flash of belt is equivalent to a flash of panties for me. I've no idea why. Im pretty sure its the spanking thing

Cantankerous 03.22.2008 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Because I have to buy things off the rack, like all the rest of the po' folk of the world. I get them to fit as well as I can, but, you know, I'm not buying them tailor-fit from a designer.

you don't have to get them tailored for them to fit. i buy vintage or off the rack pants too and i NEVER have problems because i take my time and TRY ON MORE THAN ONE PAIR which means trying on different sizes AND different cuts.

gmku 03.22.2008 07:29 AM

I know. I do that too. I just think I'm kind of incompetent at it. I sometimes have a hard time telling, in the store as I'm trying things on, what my size really is and what looks best.

What makes it worse is salesclerks will tell you anything to make a sale. Oh, sure, that looks great on you. It's supposed to expose your butt crack when you bend over.

Cantankerous 03.22.2008 08:56 AM

DO NOT listen to those simpletons working in the store. they don't know shit.
if you don't feel comfortable in something -- don't buy it. and needless to say, crack kills.

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
you don't have to get them tailored for them to fit. i buy vintage or off the rack pants too and i NEVER have problems because i take my time and TRY ON MORE THAN ONE PAIR which means trying on different sizes AND different cuts.


^ This girl knows how to wear clothes, so listen to her. Keep in mind, though, that tit-carriers have it easier when it comes to clothes becuase they have more and better choice than men.

Pookie 03.22.2008 03:56 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: no man over the age of 35 should wear jeans. They are definitely a young man's thing.

I challenge anybody to show me a man over that age that looks good in jeans.

afterthefact 03.22.2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
I've said it before and I'll say it again: no man should wear jean shorts.


With a slight modification to what you said, I completely agree.

 

Pookie 03.22.2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
I've said it before and I'll say it again: no American man should wear jeans.

What I should have said.

(Insert appropriate picture here.)

afterthefact 03.22.2008 04:07 PM

Even better.

Norma J 03.23.2008 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
No, but you are handsome. See my post above.


Aww. Thank you. :)

gmku 03.23.2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
I've said it before and I'll say it again: no man over the age of 35 should wear jeans. They are definitely a young man's thing.

I challenge anybody to show me a man over that age that looks good in jeans.


Bull.

Shit.

Jeans look good on anybody, any age, as long as they're the right fit and the right style.

Case in point: the main character on House (the TV show). The doc always looks fine in his jeans.

Pookie 03.23.2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Bull.

Shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by me
I challenge anybody to show me a man over that age that looks good in jeans.

...

gmku 03.23.2008 06:50 PM

I think it's a bullshit challenge. There's no reason anybody at any age can't look good in jeans. They're democratic. Maybe that's a foreign concept in merry old England, though.

Pookie 03.23.2008 06:54 PM

I'm not being argumentative.

I just think that men of a certain age start to look a bit ridiculous wearing certain things, in particular jeans.

gmku 03.23.2008 07:03 PM

Sorry, don't mean to go over the top on this. But it is kind of an intersting point, and one that I'm sure will get me into trouble all my life with those more conservative than I.

We all have our own preferences and ideas about what's "age appropriate." But all my life I've always believed everybody should just wear whatever the hell they want, whatever age or social position or whatever, because clothing can be more than fashion or comfort--it can be a matter of personal expression or identity, and it can simply be one way of having fun.

Basically, I sayeth boo and hiss to the idea that there's an age limit on what's acceptable to wear.

As for myself, to a large extent, I do make sure my clothes are age appropriate--but as I define that and not as somebody else does. For example, I will never wear a pair of Dockers! Never! Pleated pants? Screw that! Wear whatever you want. I'm 53 and still love my jeans and t-shirts (and thank God am still enough in shape that I think I look fairly good in them). It all depends on what your body and face look like anyway. I will never dress like the old guys on a golf course no matter how old I get. I do keep my closet stocked with many different styles for every occasion. I try to shop wisely for this reason, but man, I tell you, for every day wear, nothing makes me feel as good (comfortable and rocking) as a great-fitting pair of jeans with a simple T-shirt.

Pookie 03.23.2008 07:14 PM

My view is definitely contradictary.

On the one hand I'm grateful to be of an age when I'm 'above' caring about fashion. It's way beneath me.

But on the other hand, I'll see somebody wearing something and think "what do you look like".

gmku 03.23.2008 07:18 PM

What am I supposed to wear? Polyester? Khakis? Chinos and cashmere polo shirts? We are talking this shit is so not rock and roll, you know. I say this only in half-jest, but I'm sorry, as somebody who almost literally grew up on 1960s American pop culture and beyond, and rockandroll in particular, I find almost every "adult" alternative to jeans and T-shirts as normal everyday wear completely alien.

I guess I could swear off the things of my youth and just give in to the polyester buttoned down world. But what fun is that?

For myself, though I don't spend a lot of money or thought on it, fashion is still a lot of fun, and definitely, when I can afford it, not something I'd ever want to "be above." It's just a hell of a lot of fun.

HaydenAsche 03.23.2008 07:23 PM

Jean shorts are so fucking tacky. Give it up, gmku.

Pookie 03.23.2008 07:24 PM

I did say my view is contradictary.

I say I don't care what I wear, but then why am I so adamant that I wouldn't be seen wearing jeans?

I don't lose sleep over the jeans issue mind.

gmku, it's clear you have issues with your age. Am I stating the obvious there?

I wear slacks with an elasticated waistband. Now that's comfort.

gmku 03.23.2008 07:24 PM

Ha ha ha. Okay, I'll send you all my jean shorts, Hayden. You funny fucker.

gmku 03.23.2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie

gmku, it's clear you have issues with your age. Am I stating the obvious there?

I wear slacks with an elasticated waistband. Now that's comfort.



Regarding both points above, I can only guess you must be joking.

Pookie 03.23.2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Oh, fuck off. Issues with my age.

Is my lady protesting too much?
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Oh my God, elasticated!!!

Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. I can eat all day and never have to loosen my belt. And my hand slips down there without any effort.

Pookie 03.23.2008 07:34 PM

I take it all back.



 

gmku 03.23.2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
(a) Is my lady protesting too much?

(b) Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. I can eat all day and never have to loosen my belt. And my hand slips down there without any effort.


a. I've had enough. It's time for my botox injections, anyway.

b. TMI.


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