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atsonicpark 12.14.2008 06:38 PM

 

Sonic Youth 37 12.14.2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uhler
i used to be big into power violence and shit, but not so much anymore. los crudos (if they count) are my favorite.


Yay for Los Crudos, but I'm not sure I'm they're power violence. My like aggressive Latin hardcore

atsonicpark 12.14.2008 06:48 PM

 
 
 
 

uhler 12.17.2008 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37
Yay for Los Crudos, but I'm not sure I'm they're power violence. My like aggressive Latin hardcore


yeah power violence is a crappy name for a genre anyway. so is screamo. i mostly just call all those bands hardcore. just back then if you called a band screamo you knew they didn't sound like earth crisis or strife and if you called a band hardcore you knew they did sound similar to those bands.

alteredcourse 12.17.2008 02:13 AM

spazz and charles bronson are such good quickies. The spazz gummo love theme is epic. They branched me off to Le Scrawl.

atsonicpark 12.17.2008 02:29 AM

Le Scrawl are amazing.

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 07:55 AM

I could never say with a straight face that I like 'power violence' music...
What a dumb fucking name.

Derek 12.17.2008 07:56 AM

It's just a name, who cares.

atsonicpark 12.17.2008 07:56 AM

every genre name is dumb. who cares?

Derek 12.17.2008 08:05 AM

yeah like 'rock' music. HELLO, IT'S NAMED AFTER A FREAKING BIG STONE ON THE GROUND


 


HELL YEAH ROCK ON!!!

uhler 12.17.2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by viewtiful_alan
I could never say with a straight face that I like 'power violence' music...
What a dumb fucking name.


well just call it hardcore or punk rock. oh wait, those are shitty genre names too.

Sonic Youth 37 12.17.2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uhler
yeah power violence is a crappy name for a genre anyway. so is screamo. i mostly just call all those bands hardcore. just back then if you called a band screamo you knew they didn't sound like earth crisis or strife and if you called a band hardcore you knew they did sound similar to those bands.

I general just group everything like that in either "hardcore" and "post-hardcore". Screamo being more leaned to post-hardcore I guess. I think the only band I have categorized on my computer as "screamo" is Orchid.

Rob Instigator 12.17.2008 02:13 PM

so, is the Locust one of these bands?

and why not?

Rob Instigator 12.17.2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37
Yay for Los Crudos, but I'm not sure I'm they're power violence. My like aggressive Latin hardcore


isn't "aggresive hardcore" redundant?

Sonic Youth 37 12.17.2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
isn't "aggresive hardcore" redundant?

Perhaps a little. I guess I feel the need to distinguish between hardcore like Black Flag and Minor Threat and those bands, like Los Crudos, where everything is amped up two notches or so.

Rob Instigator 12.17.2008 02:26 PM

that is true. it all sounds to me like a cross between hardcore and grindcore, like grindcore without the "METAL RIFFS" you know? some good stuff, but, like much hardcore, painful after more than 15 minutes. I like that these bands release tiny EP's on 7" vinyl. that is the perfect dose to get it.

gualbert 12.17.2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
that is true. it all sounds to me like a cross between hardcore and grindcore, like grindcore without the "METAL RIFFS" you know? some good stuff, but, like much hardcore, painful after more than 15 minutes. I like that these bands release tiny EP's on 7" vinyl. that is the perfect dose to get it.

Yes. 7" seem optimal for a hc record ( 10 songs, 10 min ). Hc Lp's often last 20 min, that's alright too.
The anti-example is GBH-city babies attacked by rats.
The songs are too long, there are too many songs, it could have been a cool ep.

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 05:15 PM

Oh come on, Power Violence is just downright cheesy. Imagine if you will, that you are unaware of such a genre and you ask someone what kind of music they like and they say, "POWER VIOLENCE". YOu would laugh... I promise.

uhler 12.17.2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
so, is the Locust one of these bands?

and why not?


i guess in the late 90's you could call the locust "screamo". i'm guessing that they got that tag from their relation with the san diego scene and they didn't play chugga chugga hardcore riffs.

the locust only had one decent release and that was their first ep. the rest of their stuff is god awful.

gualbert 12.17.2008 05:21 PM

Is it worse than "thrash", or "soul", or most of other genre names?

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 05:23 PM

Yes. It is thouroughly worse.

Rob Instigator 12.17.2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gualbert
Is it worse than "thrash", or "soul", or most of other genre names?


it is pretty fucking terrible indeed.

power violence is a dumb fucking name for a musical genre.
nearly as dumb as "grunge"

"soul" music tells you exactly what it is, music to uplift the soul.
"Rhythm & Blues" is exactly what it sounds like
"salsa" conjures up the vibe of the frenetic Caribbean dance music
"punk rock" is exactly that, rock music made by punk ass mo-fucks, degenerates, reprobates, etc.
"hardcore punk" also makes lots of sense, and instantly gives you a feel for what it may sound like and what it's attitude will be.
"electronica" perfectly describes the music, at least how it is created.
"twee" also describes the sound and aesthetic of a music
etc etc


"power violence" sounds like some stupid fucking juggalo deciding to call his hardcore band something else, because it is "fierce" and "awesome" and "hard", but instead it sounds like a goddamn stupid cartoon

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 06:09 PM

Thank you rob, wow you are just getting more and more awesome.

Sonic Youth 37 12.17.2008 06:37 PM

I'll agree it's a horrible name, just like grindcore and new american weird or what the fuck ever the hipsters are listening and swilling PBR to these days.

Derek 12.17.2008 06:39 PM

But damn, it sounds so manly.

POWER VIOLENCE \m/

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37
I'll agree it's a horrible name, just like grindcore and new american weird or what the fuck ever the hipsters are listening and swilling PBR to these days.

Grindcore isn't as bad a name.. even though I'm not a fan of the genre itself.

Derek 12.17.2008 06:47 PM

Isn't there something silly sounding like white belt grindcore?

viewtiful_alan 12.17.2008 07:10 PM

Huh?

batreleaser 12.17.2008 07:31 PM

wasnt power violence a man is the bastard song or something?

dropdead owns a great shop called "armageddon" in providence specializing in extreme metal, noisecore, hardcore, etc...

uhler 12.18.2008 01:30 AM

why are we still talking about the name power violence? yes it's a dumb name and i don't think any band actually called themselves power violence. it was a joke name and some kids took it seriously and it somehow became a name for a subgenre of hardcore that no one used, but fans of the bands.

uhler 12.18.2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
wasnt power violence a man is the bastard song or something?

dropdead owns a great shop called "armageddon" in providence specializing in extreme metal, noisecore, hardcore, etc...


are dropdead still around? i used to love that band.

sarramkrop 12.18.2008 02:30 AM

The name is indeed shit, but I like the bands I've heard.

Derek 12.18.2008 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by viewtiful_alan
Huh?

I'm asking if there is such a thing as 'white belt grindcore' as I remember a term like that getting thrown around.

diskaholic-anonymous 12.18.2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek
I'm asking if there is such a thing as 'white belt grindcore' as I remember a term like that getting thrown around.



mmm! is that a style of karate ? last year i knew a girl who was a black belt grindcore, she was a very inspired sensei in the art of headbanging...but wasn't Sheena!

Derek 12.18.2008 05:29 AM

Haha.

Yeah uhh I have no idea what it means or what it sounds like.

Toilet & Bowels 12.18.2008 06:01 AM

i think power violence is a good name for a genre, it's funny.

blunderbuss 12.18.2008 08:08 AM

I like it when genres have names that immediately tell me "don't bother investigating this genre, it's really not your kind of thing". Power Violence sounds like that kind of a genre. It sounds like a genre for jocks who think they're above jockdom because they like a really really really alternative type of music. But they're jocks anyway.

Derek 12.18.2008 09:29 AM

That's just silly. A stupid genre name shouldn't drive you away from a plethora of good music.

greedrex 12.18.2008 09:59 AM

protopunk anyone?


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