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Everyneurotic 05.06.2008 06:56 PM

there's a lot of great folk players like jack rose and james blackshaw. and people doing "freak" kinda folk, like islaja, kemialliset ystävät, avarus, silvester anfang, es, etc. are amazing.

fugazifan 05.06.2008 06:56 PM

i think he writes pretty good songs.
i have always loved this one
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbPIOwxCIg4&feature=related
i dont see why not to write folk influenced stuff. there is some great folk out there, especially from the 20-40s . and the whole part of the tradition is playinmg other peoples songs and such. but i think its pretty cool that some people have made the whole folk attitude new and fresh.
as long as they dont play any electric blues i'll be happy

pbradley 05.06.2008 08:20 PM

If his vocals didn't annoy me and he wasn't such a model turned earth child, I might like his music. Also the new "freak folk" thing seems so pointless to me, like Civil War re-enacters away from a re-enactment. And I live in San Francisco.

And it kind of annoys me the suggestion of some that folk is the only calm music to exist to be suitable to counter attack loud rock. I would be far more likely to put on some jazz or blues before some modern freak folk shit.

lungfish 05.06.2008 10:03 PM

i first heard "The Black Babies EP" in early 2004 on vinyl when Devendra gave me a copy.
the song "Lagoon" made me fall in love him.
luckily i ended up getting to know him before the whole "freak folk" thing happened.
one of the most down to earth, kindest cats i've ever known.
and that EP is still one of my favorite records.

batreleaser 05.06.2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by super_charger
Because as much as I love Sonic Youth and Naked City or Boredoms I still need music I can listen to with a raging hang-over.


then listen to leanord cohen, or dylan, or nick drake, or arthur lee or some good folk/psychpop singer songwriter from generation's past, because they actually made folk that was good sounding and had amazing lyrics. folk is a very limiting sound in my opinion, and i dont think it can be made better than those guys did 30 or 40 years ago.

batreleaser 05.06.2008 10:46 PM

but ironically, i do like when bands use folk sounds or instrumentation to make their music more diverse (ie, sun city girls/rick bishop, newer animal collective stuff/panda bear, six organs of admittance, some soft circle, etc..)

atsonicpark 05.07.2008 02:17 AM

Well, I don't think stuff like sun city girls, six organs, james blackshaw, jack rose, etc. has anything to do with the rest of that "freak folk" scene.. cuz, you know, that stuff's actually good. Haha.

I just think everyone should listen to every John Fahey and Robbie Basho album on repeat for a few months.

Toilet & Bowels 05.07.2008 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
then listen to leanord cohen, or dylan, or nick drake, or arthur lee or some good folk/psychpop singer songwriter from generation's past, because they actually made folk that was good sounding and had amazing lyrics. folk is a very limiting sound in my opinion, and i dont think it can be made better than those guys did 30 or 40 years ago.



look out, it's the music police.

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 07:14 AM

Bob Dylan? Amazing lyrics?

super_charger 05.07.2008 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
then listen to leanord cohen, or dylan, or nick drake, or arthur lee or some good folk/psychpop singer songwriter from generation's past, because they actually made folk that was good sounding and had amazing lyrics. folk is a very limiting sound in my opinion, and i dont think it can be made better than those guys did 30 or 40 years ago.


I have loved Leonard Cohen for the last 20 years, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to like newer artists too. I think if you're looking for folk music to 'be made better' then, with all due respect, you really don't understand the spirit of folk music. Folk music will probably sound relatively the same a hundred years from now, and that's not a bad thing.

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 07:39 AM

John Fahey would have punched him, knowing his penchant for heckling nouveau folksters.

Everyneurotic 05.07.2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Bob Dylan? Amazing lyrics?


hahahahahahahaha, i can't rep you porky.

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by the way, folk music isn't from the 60's, it has existed for centuries now, and will always exist.

Rob Instigator 05.07.2008 10:28 AM

folk is not really a "sound" as it is pushed here in america.

bluegrass is folk. hawaiian music is folk. polka is folk. delta blues is folk. gypsy music is folk.

folk music is music made by regular people, for social events such as dances, weddings, entertainment, etc. it is ussually made with acoustic instruments because they are portable an dcan be played anywhere, even on a mountain camping trip. it can be uproarious, loud, jamming, danceablem, beautiful, calm, etc.

the fucking hippie soft shit that has been purveyed as "folk" since the days of the goddamn kingston trio is just one tiny teeny slice of true folk music.

and I HATE IT

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 10:44 AM

Why the little history of folk if the kind that is discussed on this thread is what it is?

Rob Instigator 05.07.2008 10:52 AM

cuz devonshire barnyard sucks.

demonrail666 05.07.2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by screamingskull


 


so that's what the fucker looks like. Clearly a skidmark of a man.

ALIEN ANAL 05.07.2008 11:26 AM

hey hey mock his music
but his looks is fine leave it :P

demonrail666 05.07.2008 11:30 AM

Seriously, he looks like a hairdresser on Old Street. People unaware of what hairdressers on Old Street actually look like, now know.

For those unaware of which Old Street I'm referring to, it's the one in London filled with hairdressers that look like Devendra Banhart.

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Seriously, he looks like a hairdresser on Old Street. People unaware of what hairdressers on Old Street actually look like, now know.

For those unaware of which Old Street I'm referring to, it's the one in London filled with hairdressers that look like Devendra Banhart.


I was going to post something similar to that. He looks too much like a Hoxton folkster, rather than Greenwich Village.

Green Magnesium 05.07.2008 12:17 PM

Oh my. I've heard his name before and thought he was a woman. Turns out he's a sexy guy, even if he does look a little too grungy. Kind of like if Vincent Gallo and Charles Manson had a baby and it turned out to be cute.

This whole "freak" folk thing is more of a nuisance than it's worth. There are a few very engaging artists who have sprung from it (Faun Fables, Espers, April Fishes)... but for every good band we get a shit ton of garbage (Joanna Newsom and the like).

screamingskull 05.07.2008 12:19 PM

if you're into hippie looking guys, then he's not bad looking.

 

 

 

 

he has interesting style.

demonrail666 05.07.2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by screamingskull


 








he has interesting style.


God help us if they bring back conscription!

screamingskull 05.07.2008 12:37 PM

I kinda feel sorry of the guy, he's like 40 years too late for is scene. He's living in Topanga Canyon which was THE place to live in like 1966, but now??? it's just full of guys who have made a load of money from computer software.

uhler 05.07.2008 12:45 PM

i used to like his old records. now i find him annoying as hell.

SugarMountain 05.07.2008 12:46 PM

I would still like to live in Topanga, listen to Neil Young all day and pretend it was the 70s

screamingskull 05.07.2008 12:53 PM

can i come?

super_charger 05.07.2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
folk is not really a "sound" as it is pushed here in america.

bluegrass is folk. hawaiian music is folk. polka is folk. delta blues is folk. gypsy music is folk.


Indeed, those are regional examples of folk but my point still remains that folk is essentially music that anyone can make by themselves with just a guitar (or harp or ukulele) and isn't supposed evolve the way other music does like when people say about an artist 'wow, he's really pushing the boundaries'.

But I wouldn't say that Devendra's music is an example of the hippy soft shit that you were complaining about as he incorporates more than one of the above styles into his records as well as some rock influences like T-Rex.

demonrail666 05.07.2008 12:59 PM

Artists like him sort of astound me. I just wonder who they actually appeal to. It's like Nathan Barley played totally straight.

SugarMountain 05.07.2008 01:06 PM

I know exactly what you mean, And thats what I though about him initially but I think he's the real deal, His last two records are hardly folk records

batreleaser 05.07.2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Well, I don't think stuff like sun city girls, six organs, james blackshaw, jack rose, etc. has anything to do with the rest of that "freak folk" scene.. cuz, you know, that stuff's actually good. Haha.

I just think everyone should listen to every John Fahey and Robbie Basho album on repeat for a few months.


i made no indication that those bands are part of the "freak folk" movement, just that they have some folk influences in their very wide ranges of sound.

on a side note: i realize that my explaining my position i sounded like a pretentious dick, and i apologizee, so ill just say that the freak folk artists do not have any appeal to me for the most part.

Everyneurotic 05.07.2008 01:10 PM

kill all hippies.

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 01:19 PM

This Banhart guy can surely cause a stir.

sarramkrop 05.07.2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screamingskull
if you're into hippie looking guys, then he's not bad looking.











 




he has interesting style.


Oh, c'mon! Only Angus Maclise could get away with things like the above.

Green Magnesium 05.07.2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
kill all hippies.


I held your above comment up to a mirror and got this.......

.hippies all kill


:( unsettling to say the least

super_charger 05.07.2008 01:46 PM

 


People keep making fun of the way Devendra looks but don't have a problem with these guys? Wait...isn't that Devendra on the left?

Toilet & Bowels 05.07.2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Artists like him sort of astound me. I just wonder who they actually appeal to. It's like Nathan Barley played totally straight.


it amazes me that this guy sells thousands of records and somebody like Teenage Panzerkorps (arguabley the most awesome band since Harry Pussy) only sell about 500

http://www.myspace.com/teenagepanzerkorpsrules

Savage Clone 05.07.2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by super_charger
People keep making fun of the way Devendra looks but don't have a problem with these guys? Wait...isn't that Devendra on the left?


Actually, I'm pretty sure that's CHOUT.

MellySingsDoom 05.07.2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
kill all hippos.


Oi, leave those damn cuddly animals alone!

 

ALIEN ANAL 05.08.2008 06:00 AM

oh look he is having lots of fun here
and he had a shave

:P
 

racehorse 05.08.2008 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
it amazes me that this guy sells thousands of records and somebody like Teenage Panzerkorps (arguabley the most awesome band since Harry Pussy) only sell about 500

http://www.myspace.com/teenagepanzerkorpsrules


Oh my word, I can't rep you again, but thanks - they really are amazing.


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