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Cantankerous 06.11.2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Seriously, compared with London that's a steal

rob, he's right.

what will $670,000 get me in houston, rob?

TheMadcapLaughs 06.11.2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Is it true that all the inhabitants of San Francisco like the bum?


yes, that is very much a fact. you have to, for the sake of harmony.

Rob Instigator 06.11.2008 09:25 AM

In Houston, you can get this
 


or this
 


or this
 


or this
 

Rob Instigator 06.11.2008 09:26 AM

compared to London anywhere but NYC will be cheap, of course. london is dense

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 09:27 AM

new york is way cheaper than london.

TheMadcapLaughs 06.11.2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
710 ashbury
the jefferson airplane lived somewhere around there too
amoeba music is awesome


yeah amoeba is a dangerous place to go when you don't have any money.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 09:28 AM

If you can get that for $400, I'm just wondering what's wrong with Houston!

TheMadcapLaughs 06.11.2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
400 for a ROOM?
a fucking ROOM?

that shit is EXPENSIVE


haha, im not just confined to my room. my roomates allow me access to the living room, hallway, and when im really good, even the bathroom.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
new york is way cheaper than london.


Thank you. People argue with me about this all the time. Even if you paid the same in rent (which is unlikely unless you were in a more central part of Manhattan) the sheer difference in cost of living makes London FAR more expensive than New York.

A room, not a flat, a ROOM in London will put you back easily £500/$800-1000 - and we're talking the most basic room, in the least desirable area.

Weekly travel if you're working will be around £30/$50.

Food is roughly double the price here that it is in the US.

And it just goes on and on.

Unless you're on social benefit, I don't see how anyone could possibly live in London on anything less than around £800-1000/$1800 a month. and that would mean living so basically you could hardly afford to go to a pub once a week.

For that you'd be lucky to have somewhere looking like this:

 


and you'd probably be eating a lot of this towards the final third of each month:
 

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 09:38 AM

I'm renting out the rooms of the house where I live for my landlord. He asked, take a big breath, for someone to pay £ 460.00 per calendar month for a single room that is reaaaaaaallllllyyyyy tiny, like a shoe box. I convinced him to put the rent down 'cause I was finding it difficult to get tennents prepared to pay that sort of money for ONE single room of that size.

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 09:38 AM

you do not even want to know how much i'm going to be paying for this flat. out the ass. granted it's huge but i was like :eek:

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 09:40 AM

Rent and travel are the two very expensive things in London. Food and clothes are failry cheap, depending on your style and wallet you can get by decorously.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 09:49 AM

Unless you're buying bargain brands from supermarkets, I think food is outrageously expensive in England, at least compared with the US. And the standard of food when you eat out, unless you're willing to pay top prices, is pretty awful. I don't mean to sound like I'm just sitting here putting England down, but when it comes to value for money it's like shooting ducks in a barrel - with a bloody expensive gun.

Edit: Anyway, sorry, this thread was meant to be about San Francisco.

Rob Instigator 06.11.2008 09:52 AM

what about drugs?

hydro weed for example

My friend once went to Iowa with a pound of regular mexican weed and would sell dime bag amounts to people there for $40-$50!!!! ha ha! that is crazy to me!

I know a 1/4 oz of kind goes for hundreds in NYC, whereas it is just $100 here in H Town.

How is it in London? You guys get hash in from the middle east right?

demonrail666 06.11.2008 09:56 AM

Decent weed in London is around £20-25 for an 1/8th, so around the same as you'd pay where you are. Hash is usually less.

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 09:56 AM

make friends with your dealer.
ps who the fuck pays $100 for a quarter? not me. that's some balllllllls. i can get a fkn ounce for $200 and i don't smoke shit weed, EVER.

Rob Instigator 06.11.2008 10:02 AM

but I don;t make kissy faces with my dealer!

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 10:03 AM

i don't either you fuckwit.

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 10:05 AM

I disagree about the food thing. There are plenty of good restaurants around where you can have a decent meal for a set-course price of around £ 20.00 (starter and main course), excluding drinks. There is also a huge variety of cousines to sample from. Supermarkets aren't that bad, they try to up the standards all the time.

Rob Instigator 06.11.2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i don't either you fuckwit.


But I don't threaten my "connect" with griveous bodily harm!

(I meant nothing lewd by the previous. It came off osunding wrong. sorry)

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
But I don't threaten my "connect" with griveous bodily harm!

(I meant nothing lewd by the previous. It came off osunding wrong. sorry)

i don't do that shit either because if i did i would get my ass kicked. i know my place.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:12 AM

I'd conceed that supermarkets have definitely improved in the UK the past few years, but value in terms of eating out I still think is a big problem - although saying even that, it's increasingly no worse than in most of the rest of Europe. I was comparing it with the US which is FAR better value. I've eatern like a king in NY and Ohio on $10, and in parts of Florida I was given a virtual banquet of amazingness for even less. I might be full after spending £5 in London, but that's about it. On the whole I found that food was taken far more seriously in the US than it is in the UK, where it seems to be viewed on the most part simply as fuel.

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 10:15 AM

everywhere in the US is cheaper than europe, particularly france and the UK.

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 10:18 AM

Well, the euro has definitely made the whole of Europe much more expensive than it was before. They doubled the prices of a lot of things or increased them.

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 10:20 AM

fucking hell they have.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:23 AM

I found restaurants in Paris, despite their reputation, to be incredibly underwhelming. Out of interest, what's the standard of your average restaurant in somewhere like Rome now?

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 10:24 AM

idk but theres this one restaurant i forgot the name of on the champs elysee that i love love love. they have this chicken that comes with french fries and they put it in some kind of mushroom sauce and it's sooooo goooooood

damn i have been going on about food a lot lately

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I found restaurants in Paris, despite their reputation, to be incredibly underwhelming. Out of interest, what's the standard of your average restaurant in somewhere like Rome now?


If you'd pay 20 euros for two courses before, you are very likely to pay almost double that price now, especially in places like Milan, which has always been expensive anyway.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.11.2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I found restaurants in Paris, despite their reputation, to be incredibly underwhelming. Out of interest, what's the standard of your average restaurant in somewhere like Rome now?

Where did you go ?:confused:
I'm not saying we have the best restaurant, the best city, blablabla... but when I go to a restaurant in Paris, I'm never disappointed.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:29 AM

One place I was quite surprised had really superb restaurants was Berlin. I'm not talking about the imbis thing but proper sit down affairs that were great value and excellent quality. I don't think Berlin has a big rep on the food map, but I'll say this much: that it was far better than Paris the last time i was there.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
Where did you go ?:confused:
I'm not saying we have the best restaurant, the best city, blablabla... but when I go to a restaurant in Paris, I'm never disappointed.


I wouldn't be able to remember names of specific restaurants, but they certainly weren't the kind that cater solely for tourists (where I'd expect the standards to be low). I wouldn't say the food was bad, but it just seemed far more average than I'd remembered it from past visits.

sarramkrop 06.11.2008 10:41 AM

Don't mind me saying this, but I think that you romanticise the States a little too much. I mean, I'm not slagging the place off or anything, still if you talk from a few personal experiences with food over there and then want to believe that the whole place holds the same standards, I am sure that you will be up for some seriously disappointing scenarios.

I don't even know the place well enough to talk about it, but surely it must be somewhere with its ups and downs just like anywhere else. I am certain of that. Americans boardies please confirm.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.11.2008 10:41 AM

do you remember in which part of Paris you went ?
Well, I've noticed there're too much asian restaurants in Paris nowadays, about 50%. Not that I don't like asian food, but the other kind of restaurants are too few. That sucks.
But there still are good restaurants here and there.

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:44 AM

I was staying in Pigalle but ate out mostly around the Latin Quarter, so admittedly a lot of the restaurants were North African, but by no means all of them.

HECKLER SPRAY 06.11.2008 10:52 AM

Ok, well, there're a lot of kebab/greek food/... in this area, it's difficult to find the good choice.
Well, it's difficult to say there is a standard in every city/state..., it really depends on your tastes, your budget, the area, and your luck...

demonrail666 06.11.2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Don't mind me saying this, but I think that you romanticise the States a little too much. I mean, I'm not slagging the place off or anything, still if you talk from a few personal experiences with food over there and then want to believe that the whole place holds the same standards, I am sure that you will be up for some seriosuly disappointing scenarios.

I don't even know the place well enough to talk about it, but surely it must be somewhere with its ups and downs just like anywhere else. I am certain of that. Americans boardies please confirm.


No problem. I'd not say that all American restaurants are good, just like I'd never say that all British ones are bad. Just that if I made a general comparison I'd say that, on the whole, I found the ones I visited in the US to be of a better standard. I saw a lot of restaurants in America that looked absolutely awful, but i also found that there really seemed little need to go to these, simply because there was always somewhere close enough by that looked far more appealing. I don't know how true that is of all of America, though - and I definitely wouldn't say that eating out in a place like Ohio is better than in London. Better value maybe, but not in actual quality. Also, a lot of this is based on diner/cafe type food. I rarely went to a top grade restaurant in the US, so wouldn't even begin to want to make a comparison based on those. But of course you're ultimately right in that you can't judge a whole country on a handful of experiences.

mangajunky 06.11.2008 11:33 AM

I think it says a lot about San Francisco that nobody is talking about it in this thread anymore.

All I know is that all the food I had was way overrated except for the Chinese and Mexican which was excellent.

The homeless problem is out of control. If you ignore a homeless person there they'll fucking harass you and follow you down the street and expect you to just take it.

I've had to go there for business about half a dozen times in the past 5 years and you can have it.

floatingslowly 06.11.2008 11:42 AM

I've seen the musical! Everyone was so......up for it!

PS: Mr. Junky. I love yr sig. best No Reservations ever. :D

!@#$%! 06.11.2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mangajunky
I think it says a lot about San Francisco that nobody is talking about it in this thread anymore.

All I know is that all the food I had was way overrated except for the Chinese and Mexican which was excellent.

The homeless problem is out of control. If you ignore a homeless person there they'll fucking harass you and follow you down the street and expect you to just take it.

I've had to go there for business about half a dozen times in the past 5 years and you can have it.


ha ha ha haa haaa haa

ok.

i still wanna see it though.

Cantankerous 06.11.2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I've seen the musical! Everyone was so......up for it!

PS: Mr. Junky. I love yr sig. best No Reservations ever. :D

oh that tony bourdain show? i like him. his restaurant is good.


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