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Savage Clone 08.16.2008 05:34 PM

I'm not into squeaky helium voices.

atsonicpark 08.16.2008 05:37 PM

Hm. Not sure I know what you mean. Really beautiful and very melodic voice. To each their own I guess.

Eyebaj 08.16.2008 05:41 PM

Modern oasis with Liam at live shows.

atsonicpark 08.16.2008 05:41 PM

Oh, I thought of a good one... the Fuckemos. I kinda like the low-pitched voice but not over the course of a whole album haha.

Savage Clone 08.16.2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Hm. Not sure I know what you mean. Really beautiful and very melodic voice. To each their own I guess.


She sounds like a cartoon character to me.
Their drummer is great, though.

SuperCreep 08.16.2008 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
She sounds like a cartoon character to me.

I always found Deerhoof's music to be very cartoony (in a good way.) The vocals are fitting, if you ask me.

Danny Himself 08.16.2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperCreep
I always found Deerhoof's music to be very cartoony (in a good way.) The vocals are fitting, if you ask me.


They remind me of the fellows in your signature. Albeit not as good.

atsonicpark 08.16.2008 06:14 PM

I dunno, one of my favorite genres of music is J-Pop, so I guess her voice doesn't strike me as anything too squeaky or annoying.

I just thought of the perfect one.. TORA! TORA! TORRANCE! Pissy, noisey, mean, slashing, creative fast college rock with two sharp contrasting guitars, an amazing rhythm section.. just really a great, high-energy band. With the worst vocalist I've EVER HEARD. EVER.

Limp Bizkit. I don't care what anyone says. The bassist/drummer/guitarist of this band really had something special going on. Even though the band sucks, if you pay attention musically, there's a lot of interesting riffs and such... certainly moreso than most mainstream bands. But Fred Durst is terrible.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 08.16.2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
I really like Black Eyes even if the singer is terrible.

Ugh. I've been told I listen to bands that are good with terrible singers. i.e. Arab on Radar, Erase Eratta, KK Rampage, etc.

I think those weird ass vocals are really important to those bands.


I love the Black Eyes.

SuperCreep 08.16.2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
They remind me of the fellows in your signature. Albeit not as good.

Few are. :cool:

the ikara cult 08.16.2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eyebaj
Modern oasis with Liam at live shows.


In Reverse surely? The songs are average but Liam is a really good singer.

Anyway, too few bands realise that being technically good musically should not have to extend to your singer, i hate it when the vocals on an otherwise decent rock song are given the studio sheen treatment in order to be passable for radio; See The Killers or Maximo Park.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xxlouiisxx
Smashing Pumpkins are very good, Billy Corgan sucks.


I really like his timbre as it's pretty unique. He's indeed a bad singer in the sense that he's nearly always out of tune live.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 05:30 AM

The Beatles when Ringo sings :D

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 05:33 AM

Joy Division.

Ian's timbre is beautiful but I guess that on a technical level the voice is very far from perfect.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 05:35 AM

Neil Young. He kinda has a duck voice but that doesn't prevent it from being moving on his best songs.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 05:38 AM

Television. Verlaine is far from great technically (on the vids you can see how he struggles in order to sing as best as he can), but his voice suits the music.

Death & the Maiden 08.17.2008 06:46 AM

I think this thread is about vocalists whose voices can ruin the music, not vocalists who don't have technically good voices, but still fit in with the music.

eduveloper 08.17.2008 07:21 AM

she does a great national anthem, and she sings the great songs anyway
but yeah think you're right
an over the top preaching Jim Morrison can still irritate me

atsonicpark 08.17.2008 07:22 AM

Exactly, Death and the Maiden.

I should have called it "good bad, shitty VOCALIST".

atsonicpark 08.17.2008 07:23 AM

Or "shitty frontman"

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Exactly, Death and the Maiden.

I should have called it "good bad, shitty VOCALIST".


Ok, so only Ringo fits :D

batreleaser 08.17.2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Deerhoof's vocals are beautiful.

Batreleaser, I'm not a huge fan of Glassjaw or Blood Brothers, but musically they are both actually pretty interesting bands. I have to admit it even though it's embarassing. The vocals just ruin any chance of them ever being taken seriously though.

SlipKnot actually have a lot of interesting musical ideas too, especially on their self-titled album but the "RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" Cory Taylor growl pretty much always ruins it for me.


i like slipknot's first album. its totally unpretentious straight up metal. and loud. and heavy. and the last song borders on tribal psychedelic noise, all those yelps and screams and percussion.

Trasher02 08.17.2008 09:50 AM

Die! Die! Die! has a very irritating singer.

batreleaser 08.17.2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
Neil Young. He kinda has a duck voice but that doesn't prevent it from being moving on his best songs.


surely you must be kidding. ian curtis and neil young!!! ian has one of the most sound appropriate voices of all time, somber, low, atmospheric, and totally beautiful! and neil young, that whiny falsetto that is capable of leading the saddest ballads as well as the most fist pumping excellent hard rock songs! two of the best male vocalists of all time.

i got one; yoko ono. the music is usually pretty interesting, but i HATE her voice. i know some find it creative of different or appropriate to the music, but i just find it deliberate, annoying, and cringe inducing.

SuperCreep 08.17.2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
i got one; yoko ono. the music is usually pretty interesting, but i HATE her voice. i know some find it creative of different or appropriate to the music, but i just find it deliberate, annoying, and cringe inducing.

Agreed. I actually found her debut to be surprisingly quite good, but I doubt I'll listen to it any more since I just can't stand her voice.

chairman of the bored 08.17.2008 11:08 AM

did anyone else see gang gang dance at summerstage yesterday?...there you go...

Savage Clone 08.17.2008 12:59 PM

I love Kyuss musically, but the vocals have always been a problem for me.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
surely you must be kidding. ian curtis and neil young!!! ian has one of the most sound appropriate voices of all time, somber, low, atmospheric, and totally beautiful! and neil young, that whiny falsetto that is capable of leading the saddest ballads as well as the most fist pumping excellent hard rock songs! two of the best male vocalists of all time.


I love their voices but that doesn't prevent me from noticing their strong technical limitations. I mean good voice doesn't equal good singing. But off course then technique is not what matters most in order to appreciate music.

Torn Curtain 08.17.2008 01:47 PM

And as was already said I misundertood what the thread was about so my references to Curtis and Young were off topic anyway.

atsonicpark 08.17.2008 05:42 PM

I was kinda thinking Kyuss too.

Usually the vocals are fine but sometimes they can be distracting...

SuperCreep 08.17.2008 06:42 PM

I find Kyuss' vocals to be bland and extremely off-putting.

Derek 08.17.2008 06:44 PM

I don't mind 'em.

demonrail666 08.17.2008 06:58 PM

I don't mind them either. I think Kyuss are one of those few bands where that kind of vocals really works.

atari 2600 08.17.2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xxlouiisxx
Smashing Pumpkins are very good, Billy Corgan sucks.


He actually sounded very good when I saw them. And the new band members did too. It was a pleasant surprise.

In my view, the "good band, bad singer" phenom pervades most music today. Most are incredibly bad lyricists to boot.

MellySingsDoom 08.17.2008 07:32 PM

atari2600 - I hate the studio/live "autotune" thing for vocalists - if you can't sing in the first place, any amount of technology isn't going to save your hide.

atsonicpark 08.17.2008 07:52 PM

The Sick Lipstick.

Awesome music; kinda no wave meets new wave or something... actually, it reminds me of the sound Wire had on "Send".. that really overprocessed sound... but with a no wave kind of sound...

But with the brattiest, cattiest, riot grrlish, loudest, most annoying vocals ever that dominate every song and automatically makes the whole band seem shitty.

atari 2600 08.17.2008 07:54 PM

An aside, but a guy at dime trades with the tour manager for Smashing Pumpkins and Billy ended up requesting some Booker T & the MGs. Some was used for the pre-show music.

fugazifan 08.18.2008 03:25 AM

this is probably an unpopular opinion but when i heard the new Suishou No Fune i couldnt get past how amazing the music would be without their singer...

atsonicpark 08.18.2008 07:47 AM

:(:(:(

Savage Clone 08.18.2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan
this is probably an unpopular opinion but when i heard the new Suishou No Fune i couldnt get past how amazing the music would be without their singer...


I think Pirako is great!


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