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Cantankerous 09.05.2008 04:07 PM

you're a fetus.

ni'k 09.05.2008 04:16 PM

i knew cantankerous would say she was on it as soon as she started posting. she almost makes you feel like youve got precog with her predictability.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.05.2008 04:19 PM

so it was a trap!

dastardly

(i love you)

Cantankerous 09.05.2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
i knew cantankerous would say she was on it as soon as she started posting. she almost makes you feel like youve got precog with her predictability.


I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, go look in the other fucking thread about drug problems. i'm not badass or cool because i did it, i wish i hadn't done it because it was fucking stupid. go on and fucking rip me to shreds, i don't really care.

you're the one who asked.

Derek 09.05.2008 04:22 PM

My uncle is an ex heroin addict. He said that when he quit heroin, the withdrawal felt like his bones were slowly breaking.

It's a shame though, he got hooked on the stuff when he was a teenager as his mum had died. He's the nicest person you could ever meet...

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.05.2008 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
ive seen some posts here recently referring to heroin. and im wondering could someone with some knowledge on the subject help clear up a few questions about it.

i dont completly understand the nature of addiction to heroin. say you became addicted and kicked it - after you have kicked it do you have any cravings for it at all?

is it possible to get on heroin, kick it and then never go on it again for the rest of yr life?

how easy is it to resist the temptation to get back on it after you have kicked it?

i know its linked to dopamine, would that mean it would be almost impossible for a schizophrenic to kick it and stay clean?

if anyone can enlighten me i would much appreciate it. ive never tried heroin, but knowing me its something i probably might do at some point.

thanks.

coincidentally, i too read that opening post as 'make up a story about a time you were addicted to heroin'

ni'k 09.05.2008 04:27 PM

CREATE YR OWN CANTANKEROUS POST!

Follow these instructions and you too can make your very own Cantankerous posts!

STEP 1.
Insert the word "fucking" after everything for added angry drama girl RAR! emphasis

STEP 2.
Appear to self deprecate while actually trying to assert a strengh of will

STEP 3.
Watch episodes of SPACED and pay close attention to the character Marsha

STEP 4.
DRUGS MAN! YR SUCH A PUSSY! LOOK AT MY AWESOME HATRED FOR THINGS WHICH DON'T LIVE UP TO MY BADASSNESS


ni'k 09.05.2008 04:28 PM

i love you really catanky :)

Cantankerous 09.05.2008 04:28 PM

:rolleyes:

you people are idiots. i'm done. i have somewhere to be in 20 minutes.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.05.2008 04:29 PM

paris?
london?
never never land?

greedrex 09.05.2008 04:34 PM

 

floatingslowly 09.05.2008 04:46 PM

I have no idea what you people are going on about.

is this the pick on 'tankerous thread, o, ye o' the solid truths?

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.05.2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I have no idea what you people are going on about.

yes you do:

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
is this the pick on 'tankerous thread, o, ye o' the solid truths?


floatingslowly 09.05.2008 05:17 PM

I guess, but why should it even matter?

this thread could have started and ended with a trip to wiki.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 09.05.2008 05:19 PM

so could most threads

terriblecanyons 09.05.2008 06:11 PM

Fuck Days of our Lives, I'll just camp in this thread with some popcorn.

luisxvi 09.05.2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
ive seen some posts here recently referring to heroin. and im wondering could someone with some knowledge on the subject help clear up a few questions about it.

i dont completly understand the nature of addiction to heroin. say you became addicted and kicked it - after you have kicked it do you have any cravings for it at all?

is it possible to get on heroin, kick it and then never go on it again for the rest of yr life?

how easy is it to resist the temptation to get back on it after you have kicked it?

i know its linked to dopamine, would that mean it would be almost impossible for a schizophrenic to kick it and stay clean?

if anyone can enlighten me i would much appreciate it. ive never tried heroin, but knowing me its something i probably might do at some point.

thanks.


In the initial stages of withdrawl all you want is more dope, anything to take away the unpleasentness of it all but then after the spewing and crying etc are done you hit a sag and you dont want any dope at all, you dont really want anything to do with annything and just feel kind of empty. At this point, a few months or weeks depending on your situation your mind starts to think towards drugs and this is when relapse happens for a lot of users. This is also why a lot of people who go back on OD because they use more than their weakened system can cope with and think they can use as much as they did before. Seen many people screw themselves over doing that.

It is possible to get off dope and stay off for sure but once you are truly hooked its always there no matter where you go. There are certain places that I dont go to because thats where I used to score and its hard to go back even after all this time clean.

The temptation to stay off can be easy to destroy and I thought that I was just going to do it a little bit but when you hang in certain crowds then its all to easy. When your hooked kicking looks like its easy but in actual fact its very hard and not an experience that I would want to repeat under any cirumstances. Its like a lot of ex users say, at first you own your addiction but in the end its your addiction that owns you. That might sound pretty dumb but its oh so true.

I know nothing about schizophrenia and drug use really other many people who are homeless and use are mentally ill and if they wern't before they started, then they will be after a while.

All I will say is that its your choice but if I were you then I would not even get started with that shit because you will ruin everything and take that from someone who knows.

tesla69 09.05.2008 10:14 PM

but maybe opium should be available under license or something

shentov 09.06.2008 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
1.ive seen some posts here recently referring to heroin. and im wondering could someone with some knowledge on the subject help clear up a few questions about it.

2.i dont completly understand the nature of addiction to heroin. say you became addicted and kicked it - after you have kicked it do you have any cravings for it at all?

3.is it possible to get on heroin, kick it and then never go on it again for the rest of yr life?

4.how easy is it to resist the temptation to get back on it after you have kicked it?

5.i know its linked to dopamine, would that mean it would be almost impossible for a schizophrenic to kick it and stay clean?

6.if anyone can enlighten me i would much appreciate it. ive never tried heroin, but knowing me its something i probably might do at some point.

thanks.


1. abolutely no prob on this, since i am the one who started a few of them threads. i am sorry for this though, scumming our lil' community.

2. i haven't kicked it yet, i mean this time. i've kicked a million times before just to lead to me to the hood again, for some more. did i craved for it? yeah, sure. i've pawned, sold, borrowed, stole everything i could get my hands on to get my fix (and still hasn't drowned REALLY bad, been on it only for two years). after being clean for a while the cravings are so strong that you actually find yrself sitting somewhere alone with inly one thought in yr head, until you get your ass up to the man, with or without money. sounds strong enough?

3. i hear it's possible. i hope for the best it's gonna happen to me. but now, at the stage where i am, i don't really trust it would. and it's sad. i really don't know how to cope with it.

4. not easy. pure nightmare.

5. Instigator put it really well on this topic...

6. you are welcome, but my advice is to stay away from heroin. if you can't resist try as hard as you can to keep the chipper status. i know there are chippers in this world, only i've never seen them in front of me. i was one. now i'm a full blown heroin fiend. you get the picture.


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