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Toilet & Bowels 09.23.2008 11:24 AM

matador were good in the 90s, but aside from times new viking all their new stuff is rubbish. plus, on top of dropping bardo pond they also got rid of solex, keep unsane's first record OOP, & almost killed siltbreeze

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.23.2008 11:26 AM

That's priceless.

MellySingsDoom 09.23.2008 11:28 AM

Didn't Steve Albini have a serious falling out with Cosloy in the mid-80's, due to Homestead not paying Big Black royalties?

Mister Integrity strikes again!

Toilet & Bowels 09.23.2008 11:31 AM

Plus, how come if Matador think Railroad Jerk are so awesome they never released their final album?

davenotdead 09.23.2008 12:23 PM

bardo pond is good.... with moments of greatness

Rob Instigator 09.23.2008 12:28 PM

Bardo is great couchrock. you can get blitze dhigh and listen to their music and sit on the couch and completely forget what you ahve heard as soon as it is over.

ha!

they put on a cool show though.

I think also to second the idea above to have Matador re-issue the UNSANE self-titled on 480 gram vinyl, as thick as a double stuff oreo

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I think also to second the idea above to have Matador re-issue the UNSANE self-titled on 480 gram vinyl, as thick as a double stuff oreo


another vote for that!

Everyneurotic 09.23.2008 01:25 PM

ohh man, here's my response to gerard cosloy: http://oscillatorzine.blogspot.com/2...rd-cosley.html

concerning this thread: why say "bardo pond sux"? that's your personal opinion and has nothing to do with matador, i just think that it was very dumb to sign that band in hopes of them becoming indie media darlings.

again, i don't love or hate matador, they are just a label (it's all there on my blog).

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
ohh man, here's my response to gerard cosloy: http://oscillatorzine.blogspot.com/2...rd-cosley.html

concerning this thread: why say "bardo pond sux"? that's your personal opinion and has nothing to do with matador, i just think that it was very dumb to sign that band in hopes of them becoming indie media darlings.

again, i don't love or hate matador, they are just a label (it's all there on my blog).


o my...

i hope they respond, so i can watch the debacle that is a long internet discussion.

SYRFox 09.23.2008 01:34 PM

I think I/C/O/C could very well sign on Matador from now on

EMMAh 09.23.2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhler
i don't even know or care who bardo pond are.


Me neither.

Fucking lurkers are no good though.

floatingslowly 09.23.2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
ohh man, here's my response to gerard cosloy: http://oscillatorzine.blogspot.com/2...rd-cosley.html


I'm totally ashamed of you right now. you ain't no gangsta. :(

you should have picked up that steaming pile of crud line and ran with it (even if you were misquoted).

lengthy explanations are for pussies, ....darling (<-- arggh).

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMMAh
Me neither.


you should! they are awesome. i think you'll like them.

lemmi see...

http://www.threelobed.com/bardo/sounds/

try.

EMMAh 09.23.2008 02:24 PM

They're pretty good :D I actually didn't hate them haha.

Not really something I would listen to regularly though.

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhler
i don't even know or care who bardo pond are.

you're missing out.

greedrex 09.23.2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i hate pavement, but love bardo pond.

 

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i hate pavement, but love bardo pond.


i love you.

MellySingsDoom 09.23.2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
ohh man, here's my response to gerard cosloy: http://oscillatorzine.blogspot.com/2...rd-cosley.html

concerning this thread: why say "bardo pond sux"? that's your personal opinion and has nothing to do with matador, i just think that it was very dumb to sign that band in hopes of them becoming indie media darlings.

again, i don't love or hate matador, they are just a label (it's all there on my blog).


Good reply on your blog there, Everyneuro - ultimately, the music business kis a business primarily, and decisions by record companies, where majors or indies, are made primarily on a commercial/business basis. It will be interesting to see whether G Cosloy takes you up on the interview offer.

greedrex 09.23.2008 02:53 PM

How can one hate Pavement?

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 02:54 PM

because they SUCK.

greedrex 09.23.2008 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
because they SUCK.

EPIC FAIL!!!

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 02:56 PM

yes, they do fail epically.

greedrex 09.23.2008 02:59 PM

haha
hehe

you should check them out

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 03:00 PM

i tried. several times. i almost died.

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
haha
hehe

you should check them out


WHO HASN'T?

they just suck is all.

i mean they dont' if you like that kind of trite anodyne singsong, but fuck, i have no patience, and trust me, i have tried to give them some credit cuz a lot of hipsters claim to like them, but fuck, no, i can't stand them.

i mean how the fuck can you like this bloodless shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQHstA0cZDw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj6Qi...eature=related

shit shit shit pure shit. fucking neuter music.

--

i tried to be polite in my original dissing, but i have little patience as a general rule.

greedrex 09.23.2008 03:03 PM

i like you Cantank
you're beautiful and extreme and edgy, but i'm sorry to have to say that:
 

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
WHO HASN'T?

they just suck is all.

i mean they dont' if you like that kind of trite anodyne singsong, but fuck, i have no patience, and trust me, i have tried to give them some credit cuz a lot of hipsters claim to like them, but fuck, no.

i mean how the fuck can you like this bloodless shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQHstA0cZDw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj6Qi...eature=related

shit shit shit pure shit.

--

i tried to be polite in my original dissing, but i have little patience as a general rule.



oh god. why did i click that link.

i need to go bleach my ears out. thank god i'm seeing mbv later. the volume will take care of it.


pavement and sebadoh are two bands i simply cannot abide. the latter's cover of pink moon made me want to blow my fucking head off.

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 03:07 PM

pavement is the american blur. only worse.

SYRFox 09.23.2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
i like you Cantank
you're beautiful and extreme and edgy, but i'm sorry to have to say that:
 

I love this pic!! :D

greedrex 09.23.2008 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
WHO HASN'T?

they just suck is all.

i mean they dont' if you like that kind of trite anodyne singsong, but fuck, i have no patience, and trust me, i have tried to give them some credit cuz a lot of hipsters claim to like them, but fuck, no.

i mean how the fuck can you like this bloodless shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQHstA0cZDw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj6Qi...eature=related

shit shit shit pure shit.

--

i tried to be polite in my original dissing, but i have little patience as a general rule.



... and i thought you were witty and clever and all.;)

I love this band.
They sound über cool to me.
like relaxed with beautiful twisted melodies.
i like my pavement
TT was huh boring yes and it was not the best of departures, sure.
but Slanted + crooked + wowee + brighten = WINNNNNNNN

gmku 09.23.2008 03:10 PM

Pavement haters. Wow. I like them myself. S&E sounds so right sometimes.

If you like VU, I don't know how you can't like S&E.

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
... and i thought you were witty and clever and all.;)

I love this band.
They sound über cool to me.
like relaxed with beautiful twisted melodies.
i like my pavement
TT was huh boring yes and it was not the best of departures, sure.
but Slanted + crooked + wowee + brighten = WINNNNNNNN



 


im going to go put side 3 of pelican's australasia & clean my fucking ears.

greedrex 09.23.2008 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

pavement and sebadoh are two bands i simply cannot abide. the latter's cover of pink moon made me want to blow my fucking head off.

 


ok no problem to each his / her own, but just let me unload this forthcoming burden:

PINK FLOYD ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BORING BAG OF SHIT
wow this felt good

Cantankerous 09.23.2008 03:12 PM

okay. so?

Rob Instigator 09.23.2008 03:15 PM

pavement rule.

love the slack

give me slack

slack for the ARW

!@#$%! 09.23.2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
 


ok no problem to each his / her own, but just let me unload this forthcoming burden:

PINK FLOYD ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BORING BAG OF SHIT
wow this felt good



debatable, but whatever outcome wouldn't make pavement any less derivative & trite.

ps- hotlinking ain't allowed, dude

gmku 09.23.2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

pavement and sebadoh are two bands i simply cannot abide. the latter's cover of pink moon made me want to blow my fucking head off.


Um.

Okay. So?

greedrex 09.23.2008 03:17 PM

so
nothing
i'm just like very open-minded and have no problem whatsoever with what people say they like or loathe.
But Pavement and Sebadoh are really important to me and you said they suck .
So i said to myself let's say Pink Floyd suck for a change.
actually whoever said the Pink Moon cover was not good is right. I much prefer the original. I think it was more of a joke, but they chose a sacred song so it might have put lots of people off.
anyway
how have you been?

Rob Instigator 09.23.2008 03:17 PM

sebadoh rules too

those bands are for angry/sad slack fellas like me cantank.

Rob Instigator 09.23.2008 03:19 PM

and there are no sacred songs.

sebadoh's cover of David Crosby's Everybody's Been Burned rules.

sebadoh rules.

bubble and scrape rules.

smash yr head on punk rock RULES


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