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Green_mind 11.19.2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ripchord
Tell me about it, I'm applying to 14 schools

yikes, at $60 a school?

terriblecanyons 11.19.2008 07:22 AM

College is overrated.

Alex's Trip 11.19.2008 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jakeonguitar
I was intending on applying to all UCs but then I found out I didn't have enough "approved" math credits. (I graduated from a private school, and completed junior and senior years together out of my own choice. Little did I know, the UC application does not consider my trigonometry to be college-preparatory math.)

So, I'm stuck in Sacramento City College for two years until I can transfer. I guess this is a little bit better because I can save a good $20,000 and have better chances of getting into my top-choice school, UCLA.

Just curious, Alex's Trip, what were your credentials? GPA, extra curricculars, SAT/ACT, etc.

(Oh, and good luck!)

I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.

Green_mind 11.19.2008 09:45 AM

You're not a Gilmore girl are you? :P

Ripchord 11.19.2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.



Shit, bitch.

davenotdead 11.19.2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.



 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.19.2008 02:28 PM

in cali you should go to a good community college first, and transfer to the university, it is cheaper, easier, and more effective. You often have the same instructors as they teach part time across the area to make some $$$ and build up resume experience, and also, you will relieve the burden of the terribly clogged California public university system, which is a mess right now to overcrowding and corruption.

!@#$%! 11.19.2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.


awesome, you can be prezzident of nerdistan-- i recall that "boy's state" and your no-boy experience there. but in any case, yeah you bastard, don't sell yourself short, go for the win. will and grace or no will and grace, you have it in you to shake the shit in this land, if you so wish.

in any case you can teach AND be some sort of policymaker as well-- i once interviewed this TFA volunteer who was going to law school after her stint as a rural teacher. another wanted to become a legislator in her home state to bring about change in education.

here is the thing:

http://www.teachforamerica.org/

it's a brilliant step and full of idealistic fools just out of college. check it out if you're interested in teachingdom.

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
in cali you should go to a good community college first, and transfer to the university, it is cheaper, easier, and more effective.


completely false in alex's case. one benefits from one's classmates as much if not often more than from one's teachers. bekerley gets some of the smartest motherfuckers on this planet, some of which study to run and repair supercolliders, not air conditioners. to miss a chance to go to a place like that would be sheer and utter goofiness from his part-- cost be damned!

Alex's Trip 11.19.2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
in cali you should go to a good community college first, and transfer to the university, it is cheaper, easier, and more effective. You often have the same instructors as they teach part time across the area to make some $$$ and build up resume experience, and also, you will relieve the burden of the terribly clogged California public university system, which is a mess right now to overcrowding and corruption.

No thanks. I've come to realize how much the "mainstream" students (or "non-AP" students, which sounds condescending anyway you put it) really hate me and my fellow classmates. They really think we're all nerds and total losers (which isn't true, damn it!). During the disaster drill my Calculus teacher had us take out our assignment on the field because she thought it was a waste of time, and I overheard a bunch of other kids mocking us. "OH! We gotta study!" "Hey guys, let's bring our homework with us because math is F-U-N!" As pretentious or snotty as it may sound, I don't mix well with those who go to community college. I mean, I have plenty of friends who aren't in AP classes, and I like a lot of them, but I'd much prefer to be around those of similar mind sets and intelligence. I hate saying it because of how snobby it makes me sound, but it really is true! A friend and I had actually talked about making a documentary about what each group of people in our school thought of the other for the Film Festival in May. It probably won't happen though.
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
awesome, you can be prezzident of nerdistan-- i recall that "boy's state" and your no-boy experience there. but in any case, yeah you bastard, don't sell yourself short, go for the win. will and grace or no will and grace, you have it in you to shake the shit in this land, if you so wish.

Yeah. I am a geek at heart, but it isn't like I don't have social skills. Today a bunch of "AP Scholars" (those who took 3 or more AP tests and passed at least 2 of them) and I had our pictures taken for the school newspaper. I tried to get out of it just to save myself the embarrassment, but it was a big group photo so I figured that I'd be lost in the crowd anyway.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
completely false in alex's case. one benefits from one's classmates as much if not often more than from one's teachers. bekerley gets some of the smartest motherfuckers on this planet, some of which study to run and repair supercolliders, not air conditioners. to miss a chance to go to a place like that would be sheer and utter goofiness from his part-- cost be damned!

Agree. Agree. Agree.

Alex's Trip 11.19.2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
 

...


...Natalie Dee is for nerds. :fuckyou:


(no she isn't :( )

!@#$%! 11.19.2008 07:02 PM

eh, fuck, be a nerd and proud!

i mean what is a "nerd"-- someone who thinks? for fucks sakes...

anyway, i dont know if youve ever seen this ancient movie--- hilarious

 


yes its full of clichEs and shit-- but it was made in the last century!

anyway man, fuckit. enjoy what you are (even if it's not a "nerd" nerd).

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.19.2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!



completely false in alex's case. one benefits from one's classmates as much if not often more than from one's teachers. bekerley gets some of the smartest motherfuckers on this planet, some of which study to run and repair supercolliders, not air conditioners. to miss a chance to go to a place like that would be sheer and utter goofiness from his part-- cost be damned!


what difference does that make for some general eductation survey coursework? Its all the same bullshit across the state for the first 40 units of ANY degree in California, and as I said, the same instructors teach across the place. When I went to my local community college, ALL of my instructors were part-timers at the big universities which shall remain nameless. Going to University before Junior year is a status-ego thing. the biggest disappointment for me when I transferred was the the university was full of inexperience kids who were not serious about shit. It was like an enormous community college with nice name!

Alex's Trip 11.19.2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
what difference does that make for some general eductation survey coursework? Its all the same bullshit across the state for the first 40 units of ANY degree in California, and as I said, the same instructors teach across the place. When I went to my local community college, ALL of my instructors were part-timers at the big universities which shall remain nameless. Going to University before Junior year is a status-ego thing. the biggest disappointment for me when I transferred was the the university was full of inexperience kids who were not serious about shit. It was like an enormous community college with nice name!

Because of all the AP classes I've taken, and AP tests I've passed I'll be able to by-pass a lot of the general ed classes. My friend at Berkeley who is in her second year there, enrolled as a sophomore because she was able to get so many classes out of the way in high school.

Also, you really failed to address what !@#$% said. Being around other people that were "smart enough" (though grades aren't the only/best indicator of intelligence) to be accepted into Cal can open me to new ideas, reinforce my own, change my perspective, and foster my education to a far greater extent than being in community college can.

Edit: And I've worked too fucking hard. I worked my ass off intending to get into a University. I'm not going to allow all that time and energy to have been in vain.

phoenix 11.19.2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.



the debating team doesnt do much for me, but the math does. are you cute? you're 17 though arent you? I dont date younger guys. :( wait, I do.. six months is my limit at the moment.

Alex's Trip 11.19.2008 09:48 PM

I <3 math, but I also <3 boys. Sorry honey.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.20.2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Because of all the AP classes I've taken, and AP tests I've passed I'll be able to by-pass a lot of the general ed classes. My friend at Berkeley who is in her second year there, enrolled as a sophomore because she was able to get so many classes out of the way in high school.

Also, you really failed to address what !@#$% said. Being around other people that were "smart enough" (though grades aren't the only/best indicator of intelligence) to be accepted into Cal can open me to new ideas, reinforce my own, change my perspective, and foster my education to a far greater extent than being in community college can.

Edit: And I've worked too fucking hard. I worked my ass off intending to get into a University. I'm not going to allow all that time and energy to have been in vain.


the only thing I failed to notice was the AP thing, which means as you explained, you already have a portion of your general education completed for college credit, and you are essentially transferring into the university.

but let me warn you, if you expect to find a bunch of people like yourself you are in for a surprise, the universities are equally full of dumb asses with no ambition as everywhere else in the world. do it for yourself, not the people you might meet. Meet people for fun, get an education to learn.
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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
No thanks. I've come to realize how much the "mainstream" students (or "non-AP" students, which sounds condescending anyway you put it) really hate me and my fellow classmates. They really think we're all nerds and total losers (which isn't true, damn it!). During the disaster drill my Calculus teacher had us take out our assignment on the field because she thought it was a waste of time, and I overheard a bunch of other kids mocking us. "OH! We gotta study!" "Hey guys, let's bring our homework with us because math is F-U-N!" As pretentious or snotty as it may sound, I don't mix well with those who go to community college.


the university will be full of these people my friend, you can not avoid the world, I took those nerdy classes in highschool to, but I liked to help the nerds break out of their social awkwardness. I say, break out of your shell, don't just look for another one.

 

greedrex 11.20.2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
french intellectual wankery.

:mad::fuckyou::D

davenotdead 11.20.2008 05:19 PM

its ok greedrex... I still like France

greedrex 11.20.2008 05:22 PM

C'est beau la France
 

Rob Instigator 11.20.2008 05:35 PM

give all the schools that turn you down one of these
 

Alex's Trip 11.20.2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
give all the schools that turn you down one of these
 

I plan on giving the bird to the rejection letters (that I won't get).

jakeonguitar 11.20.2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
I have about...a 4.45 GPA, I'm the speech and debate president, and in the last few years I've done a few other club activities. I went to Sacramento recently for "Boy's State" some stupid week long thing that apparently looks really good on college apps. My SAT was 2090, and my SAT II was 770 for Math Level II and 700 for US History.


Assuming your school didn't weigh you GPA weirdly, you're fucking golden. As long as your prompts weren't tasteless, I think you're set.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.21.2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jakeonguitar
Assuming your school didn't weigh you GPA weirdly, you're fucking golden. As long as your prompts weren't tasteless, I think you're set.


yes. I think he is well on his way to a soul-crushing career as a pivotal member of the executive board of some heartless multinational corporation, which robs a person of their very existence..





 


maybe they'll invite him to join the illuminati?


 

!@#$%! 11.21.2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
yes. I think he is well on his way to a soul-crushing career as a pivotal member of the executive board of some heartless multinational corporation, which robs a person of their very existence..






 


maybe they'll invite him to join the illuminati?



 


sounds to me like a case of sour grapes

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.21.2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sounds to me like a case of sour grapes


for what? some kid working WAY to hard in highschool?

japanese kids kill themselves over that kind of shit.

I teach highschool kids, not live in envy of them..

I only wish kids like himself would take school a little less serious, he is clearly intelligent enough to do something else much more satisfying..

Alex's Trip 11.21.2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
yes. I think he is well on his way to a soul-crushing career as a pivotal member of the executive board of some heartless multinational corporation, which robs a person of their very existence..

Uh...why don't you just shove it?

I already said I think I want to be a teacher, so don't start with your shit. I want to go to a University. I've got the grades. I deserve to go where I want. I take school seriously because it is my ticket out of living with my parents. I'm not obsessed with being a success in life, with making an obscene amount of money. If anything, I'm obsessed with educating myself as well as I can.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.21.2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Uh...why don't you just shove it?

I already said I think I want to be a teacher, so don't start with your shit. I want to go to a University. I've got the grades. I deserve to go where I want. I take school seriously because it is my ticket out of living with my parents. I'm not obsessed with being a success in life, with making an obscene amount of money. If anything, I'm obsessed with educating myself as well as I can.


My Own Summer (shove it)

You can do ALL of those things with out having to work so excessively hard. it doesn't take above a 4.0 average, nor does it even take any SAT scores to get into any of the schools you applied to. All it takes is YOU, and by all of the fucking work you have done, you are correct, you deserve it, and you shall obtain it, however, you are still working too hard my friend. cool it down a bit, live

Being devoted to an education does not mean you are educated. Live a little, that is where the learning takes place. The grades and assignments are just busy work, trust me on this one.

Alex's Trip 11.21.2008 07:26 PM

I work hard, but I don't work too hard.

School has always come easily to me. I do the busy work, yes, and I really do know that it is busy work, but I never let myself get stressed about it. The only stress I've felt through my high school career was when some of those assignments all piled on top of each other, or recently when I was filling out my applications and doing school work. I do work hard, but it isn't to the point where I can't live it a little. That is for entirely different reasons.

My parents think that getting a ticket for driving a friend around when I wasn't supposed to be driving anyone under 25 and having been caught (only with circumstantial evidence) of smoking pot constitutes a downward spiral that only more stringent controlling parenting can fix. Telling them that their fascist style of parenting (monitoring my myspace messages) makes me want to die certainly didn't help. And knowing that my college experience was my way out of their shithole, they also said threatened to take away their college funding support if I got into any kind of "serious trouble" or "betrayed them" (whatever that means).

I'm certainly ready to live a little, and I've been working for it all my goddamn life.

Derek 01.09.2011 06:03 PM

I've took the leap of applying.

As long as I get an offer dependent on what I'm doing this year I will make it. Even if I have to get all A's this year I will do it. Argh.


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