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LifeDistortion 01.06.2009 09:17 PM

There was a time where I would easily have said Jim Carrey. At his peak the guy can't be matched. When he first started doing films he was doing pretty risky roles, even with his comedies. The first Ace Ventura movie is still a great comedy which could have been a disaster. "The Cable Guy" is very under-appreciated. I even liked his dramas like "Man on the Moon" and "The Truman Show", but I think he's gotten too comfortable lately, and he's doing movies that just aren't as inspiring and he doesn't seem to elevate the material the way he used to.

demonrail666 01.06.2009 09:20 PM

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I just saw a medicore movie this weekend called "Don't Tempt Me" starring Penelope Cruz, and will declare I will watch all her spanish language films because she comes off as the hottest woman in the world, its sad how her english speaking parts never seem to due her justice character-wise and even beauty-wise, there is a clear difference when you watch her in a American film and when you watch her in a Spanish film.


That's something Pedro Almodovar said too: that Hollywood somehow doesn't seem to 'get' her. It's like she's two different actresses.

!@#$%! 01.06.2009 09:40 PM

yeah, hollywood only gets mousy penelope, not hot smoldering penelope.

anyway, actors are cattle-- the director is the one that makes the picture, like it's the chef the one who prepares the cut of beef. ha!

demonrail666 01.06.2009 09:59 PM

I dunno, a great actor can often transform a quite mediocre film. Basic rule for me, stick Robert Mitchum in anything and you've got a far better film than the one you started with. The director may prepare the beef, but even I could prepare a decent stew with top quality ingredients. Replace Marlon Brando in Last Tango in Paris with Keanu Reeves, and you've got a bad film - regardless of whether you're Bernardo Bertolluci or Michael Bay.

atsonicpark 01.06.2009 09:59 PM

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Did you see her in The Blackout? That is one seriously fucked up (in a good way) film.


Gonna have to disagree here, my good chap. I'm probably the biggest Abel Ferrara fan on this board, and that was one of the worst films I've ever seen.

gualbert 01.06.2009 10:03 PM

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anyway, actors are cattle-- the director is the one that makes the picture, like it's the chef the one who prepares the cut of beef. ha!

No, it's "actors should be treated like cattle", if you're refering to Hitchcock.
To me, actors make half of the quality of a movie.
( oups, just got your joke )

atsonicpark 01.06.2009 10:05 PM

Really, I'd rather watch movies with no-name actors that I've never seen before.

demonrail666 01.06.2009 10:08 PM

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Gonna have to disagree here, my good chap. I'm probably the biggest Abel Ferrara fan on this board, and that was one of the worst films I've ever seen.


Haha, if I told you I was almost as drunk watching that movie as Matthew Modine was while acting in it, it may help explain my enthusiasm. Maybe a more sober viewing is in order.

!@#$%! 01.06.2009 10:08 PM

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Really, I'd rather watch movies with no-name actors that I've never seen before.


you should read robert bresson's "notes on the cinematographer". it's an awesome book. there he talks about "models" instead of actors. he finds absurd that a face that last week was a villain today is a hero (hollywood). anyway, he's got some brilliant observations.

atsonicpark 01.06.2009 10:11 PM

Word and word.

 

fugazifan 01.07.2009 01:36 AM

yeah a movie is usually more convincing to me if i dont feel that its "brad pit" playing a guy, rather a face that i have no frame of refrences. only a truly great actor can make you forget whatever he has done before and make one feel that this is the first time he is being seen

blunderbuss 01.07.2009 05:03 AM

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Christopher Walken

yes

ihateyouth 01.07.2009 07:15 AM

 


Don Nicholson.

Kosako 01.07.2009 07:29 AM

Araceli Gonzalez! What a great woman!!!!

acousticrock87 01.08.2009 10:39 PM

Ralph Fiennes


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