look at his tonsils though, they are as soaking wet as Jolie's oiled cleavage.

God bush is terrible.

Drugs are boring, I have gotten bored with it. Frankly I don't need them in my life. I can have fun without them.

However, recreational weed is not that bad. Using it heavily is.

We've even got back chat as well.

Posting a picture during an argument is always an admission of defeat. Whether justified or not.

I totally agree.

If marijuana wasn't illegal, people who smoke it wouldn't feel the need to bang on about it all the time in order to demonstrate how cool and alternative and non-conformist they are.

Actually they'd probably bang on about how it should be illegalised because it turned them into a lazy moron.

^^Then ban alcohol for turning people into violent and uncoordinated morons.

cigerrettes for turning people into Marge Simpsons sisters.

Fast food for turning people into Jabba the Hut.

Please.

Yeah, most people who fight for the legalization of weed are not so naive as to say that it's really good for you, but there are a lot of worse things in this country that people are allowed to do, so there should be no reason people can't do this as well.

I don't feel that the government should put laws in place that prevent you from doing only harm to yourself. To me, the seat belt law falls under this category. I'm not saying that it's always the most intelligent choice to go without a seat belt, but it should still be my choice, and I shouldn't have to worry about paying a fine because I put myself in a little more danger (and I mean only a little more, since cars are already incredibly dangerous and seat belts only knock off a fraction of your chance of getting hurt or dying in a car accident).

yeah that person should be beaten around the head.

But Phelps should not have apologized.

they'd be able to speak freely about how it helps them sleep, gives appetite, helps them to make new creative connections, improves their sex life and all the other wonderful benefits of God's natural gift.

I think it made sense to apologize tho, from a PR perspective. If not, it would have made it so much larger and blacklisted him. But maybe not.

maybe in your world. i mean, just because that's how you admit defeat, it does not follow that others do the same.

I don't think he should have apologized, for the exact reason you mentioned. When people apologize for this stuff, it comes off as a complete PR move. Does anybody really think he is sorry for hittin' the bong? Of course not; everybody and their mothers know that apologies like this are never heartfelt and they were only prodded to do this by some lawyers.

I would have way more respect for him if he said something along the lines of the fact that he never placed himself as a role model in all aspects of life; he is a great swimmer and somebody for people hoping to reach the same goals he reached. SOOO many people smoke pot, and because he was placed on a pedestal for all people to look up to, when all he wanted to do was be a great swimmer, he is now demonized for it.

And for anybody who thinks that he is still setting a bad example for some because swimmers who looked up to him now may think that you can take bong hits and still wins gold medals at the olympics, well guess what: apparently you can, so maybe it's not that bad of an example after all.

I would just like to say, that some of you out there really need to take Phelps example and hit the bong, because you all can rarely take a joke! Laugh it up a little, stop thinking everything is so serious just because I posted it, after all, its not called pot humor for nothing..

But you have to think that it is serious in a way, because he is losing contracts now, contracts for money that he worked very hard for, harder than many rich people have to work for money, and is now losing them for having a little fun.

hence, the legalize it attitude..

I think that he equally deserves both accomplishments, both the success of his hard work and the relaxation of a bong rip for a job well-done..

but people feel quite differently about these things, as reflected in the attitudes of many of the haterz who posted above.

Oh yeah, let it come off as a PR move, that may be exactly what it was. But a PR move is made regardless of which way he goes. It's still illegal and considering all the hoopla regarding athletes doing drugs, it was a good move for his career. That's the key, if you're him. Sure,everyone does it blah blah, but the last thing you need is to deny it or not apologize and get more neverending questions about his drug use and even whether other drug use may have played a role in his success.

he should have said that the weed helped him win gold medals. that would have been HILARIOUS!

see, Rob gets it!

the whole point being that weed smoking is OBVIOUSLY only a harm to those with addictive personalities. to those that are great athletes (and MANY basketbal, track, swimming, diving, baseball, football soccer guys smoke it up) weed is just recreation, like having some beers and shit.

no one ctries when athletes get loaded drunk.

but the STIGMA of "DRUUUUUUUUGS' is such that an uproar occurred.

ESPN.com had a poll asking whether you think less of Michael Phelps achievements becaus eof the weed, and with over 200,000 replies, it stood at around 24% yes and 76% No.
national policy does not compute with the desires of the populace.

exactly

Well i know if i was paying hundreds of millions of dollars for an NBA player or NFL, i wouldn't want the chance of them playing high.

or drunk. yet drink is legal, but we frown upon people showing up at work wasted.

which is why i pointed out (early on this thread) that smoking recreationally is not the same as being an fucking addict pothead with delusions.

i have nothing against hitting the volcano on friday night, or swilling some wine after work, but waking-and-baking or being an alkie are just no good shit.

first, only basbeall players get hundreds of millions,a nd that is not what happene dto phelps.

swimmers donot get JACK SHIT as far as money. just sponsorships fom swimwear companies and such. Because of his fame and immense medal count, he received cntracts to shill for kellogg and whoever else. kellogs, being a kiddie brand, probably got a hundred chain calls and letters from some fucking "watchdog" group threatening to boycott frosted flakes. BULLSHIT. but it is how the system seems to work.

and that's why he "apologized".

had he any balls he would have said "eh, i was just relaxing after inhaling chlorine all day"

but that would have cost him more money.

sure he doesn't make hundreds of milions, but he makes a nice living, considering.

True. I do it in real life as well.

Really though, you won the argument. But the posting of that picture showed you had nothing left to say. I was also pointed it out because SuchFrys does it a lot.

ha ha, i wanted a picture of a raised eyebrow (a valid answer in a face-to-face conversation, wouldn't you think? considering 80% of communication is body language), and i found that one w/ "fascinating" inscribed on it-- which was great, because it ironically (yes, ironically) further signified my utter disbelief at what i was supposed to answer, had i wanted to perpetuate the downward spiral.

ok im pondering semantics and sociology at this point-- not good fodder for the internet. i should go get lunch.

notice all of those things you listed are so much better after smoking pot.

that my friend, is precisely why you didn't pick up on my sarcasm from the very beginning of this thread, and often the cause of ALL the misunderstandings of my posts and threads on this board..

:)

Ricky Williams smoked pot, got suspended, came back and helped lead his team to the playoffs right after a 1-15 season. It has nothing to do with Ricky Williams years of dedication and training as well as natural talent...it was the weed that allowed him to become so good.

the way I see it..

study high..

take the test high..

get high scores!

Works for me (for real).

I wonder if I had been sober I would have got the highest score rather than second highest (100.5%) on my ap calculus test.

Food, but not alcohol or cigerrettes. That's addiction speaking. Especially with cigerrettes....that whole "cigerette after a meal, or being high tastes better" shit is bs. After you smoke for awhile it just doesn't matter...hence why you end up smoking a pack or more a day. Usually it's the first cig of the day that's the best.

I'm not telling ppl how to live their lives but I'm figuring out things about how I've been living mine.

In respect to yr argument I think alcohol makes you want to smoke cigs more than weed.

I know plenty of ppl who eat healthy, excersize like a son of a bitch, work two jobs, go to school, cough is also the drummer for my band, and doesnt touch cigs but smokes pot all the time. The only time he smokes a cig is when he is beligerantly drunk at a party or after a show. And he hates himself the next day.


Weird how it all works, eh?

I don't even know where u were going with yr statement, or if you smoke cigs or drink (Im pretty sure u toke) but it just sparked a random rant. and I'm trying to quit cigs.

"back in the day", weed helped me with a couple of science/philosophy type exams-- that is, of course, when i remembered to show up. cuz a lot of times, ha ha ha, i didn't. oh yeah. weed and responsibility don't mix well in my nervous system. it's best enjoyed when there's nothing to do.

Yeah, I agree it is best enjoyed at those moments, but sometimes it is fun when there is stuff to do as well - then the things you've done before become new.

yes, for a while, it's fun-- but then beware of the sippery slope of "having to" smoke to do anything. "to watch a movie", "to eat breakfast", "to play a game", "to think better", "to watch the clouds", "to listen to a record", "to do some yardwork". soon you've forgotten to bathe and you're 10 lbs fatter. ha ha ha ha. and the novelty wears off and all you have left is an expensive habit and if you can't smoke you start getting cranky/nervous/uneasy/desperate and you're ready to do anything to score some. yeah it's not physically addictive but psychologically it can be a big monkey on your back.

I like to think I have great self-control. I know this is not so for everyone, it's different for everyone, and that not many generalizations should be made.

all addicts believe they can "control" their addictions. this is self-delusional bullshit. i'm not saying you're an addict, by the way, but i've known plenty and it's usually that "oh i can quit whenever i want to" crap. that was me included. ha!

anyway i gotta go, have a good weekend.