JoBros won't put out before marriage either.

Cause they're obviously poof fairies.

by the way, this was a hoax.

If you care to read into the comments on the beyonce youtube thing, youl see that the creator of this so called board feed has come forward and admitted it was fake and saying its a 'silly joke gone too far.'

you guys are commenting on something you believe is fake, because you heard something that has been faked to back up yr fake ideas of what you believe to be fake.

nehhnehh.

im not backing up beyonce by the way i hate that shit.

so is yr face.

Beyonce's dad is her manager. OF COURSE he is gonna say this was a hoax. he gets 20% of her m,oney! shit. hoax my ass. that sexy mama cannot sing a cappela to save her life. suck major suck. at least jay Z gets to hit that shit balls-deep.

versus her dad you mean?

you disgust me!

I think Beyonce is a lesbian. I can smell the muff on her lips everytime we kiss

now yr talking. tell me more!

she poops her pants.

zac efron is a lesbian.

I think this thread misses the point of all all points entirely. This continuos teasing between 'for real' and 'not for real' is so obsolete and rock-generated it's painful to witness in all its backward narrow-mindedness. Like it even fucking matters someone can sing in tune. Hypocrites.

thank you

One of my favourite modern ironies is that it's shows like Pop Idol that have become avatars for 'real people' 'singing live'. Not that they're not, but to have everything else surrounding it being largely artificial (something I don't object to - makes good TV) then stopping at the last hurdle is ludicrous. Brilliant, but ludicrous.

That woman who sang on that show (i've watched it on youtube, I don't remember the name now) proved how real and good she was at singing, even though I personally have no time for her style, and find it a little too much, truth being told. I don't get how extremism can become a way of listening or playing music that is meant to be really enjoyed, without the listener and the producer of records occasionally incurring the wrath of self-righteousness and ridicule because they so vehemently adhere to such strictly unshifting aesthetics.

almost everyone has argued otherwise, but I have no doubt that the entire "viral video" craze that surrounds "that woman" is entirely contrived.

it's beyond reason to suggest that "the judges" had no fucking clue what to expect and that it was just such a shock that the homely can sing too. *gasp*

what's more, I'd like a cross-reference between the IPs that "hit" her youtube video versus a list of PC's infected with conflicker.c. really? 20 fucking million (plus), in just a few days?

right.

edit: then again, I'm a cynical bastard. maybe it's just me.

That's the hardest I've laughed in a long time, thanks for that.

Also, while I don't care for Beyonce, I have to say I see her as one of the lesser of many evils in mainstream music, epecially that genre. She cowrites most of her stuff (at least she used to, haven't actually read any credits on an album since someone I was with liked "Bugaboo"), and while I REALLY hate to admit it, that "Single Ladies" song is kind of catchy, especially when the minor chords come in and it starts to sound kind of menacing. Still, give me the Breeders and their lo-fi fanatical attention to detail (the detail of *not* sounding perfect) any day.

I like this music about the same with or without hoax auto tune.
Modern R&B music is easily among the very worst music of all time, "co written" by its performers or not. Right up there with "New Country."
It's not a part of my world, thank god. I love living in a bubble.

I suppose the only way to find out is to ask her to sing in front of you. I'm not sure what you mean with that. Sorry.

That's totally fair enough, though. Taste is taste. I didn't mean with my other post to imply that only people into rock music are responsable for setting strict aesthetic rules in order for someone to really get the 'real' meaning of it. Everyone is at it, like it always was.

my point is, a random search of the internet could produce 1,000's of homely people, singing. law of averages even states that some will sing very well.

despite that, a HUGE deal was made out of it on the news here (and in UK as well, I assume) about how damned inspirational it is that someone that really isn't all that pretty can sing.

it was made out to be the most special thing since jesus wept (until the next day, when everyone had second thoughts and decided that some 12 y/o was better).

I don't discount that she can "really" sing, but what exactly about that performance so singularly special?

I find it hard to believe that the entire incident wasn't just a schtick to garner interest in the show.

I'm hoping yr the one with the answers.

It's not the homely-to-talent ratio. For god's sake, we all know less than attractive people can sing sometimes. In the 70s it was practically a requirement that you be hideously ugly to be a successful rock band.

It's the eyebrow thing. People with big eyebrows are usually only good at casting spells, and all you need for that in the vocal sense is the ability to do some low-level chanting.

Don't you know anything?

when it comes to humans, I'm still learning.

it's just that in a conversation of what's "real or not" in music, her performance strikes me as being very "unreal".


disclaimer for humans #1: unreal is good. I prefer it. I just don't like when it's held up to be otherwise.
disclaimer for humans #2: I'm not even really talking about porky saying it's "real", I mean the mega-hype surrounding her.
disclaimer for humans #3: see above disclaimers.

Yeah, please let's forget about that woman. It was just some random example that was there because it was big news over here, somehow, and geneeraly the English shout it out loud when one of their own has done something 'right' (wait till you get T&B or Glice 's scorn about me posting this).

Anyway, it just seems ridiculous that someone would make it a big deal to find out a pop star is not up to scratch with their singing, considering that Thurston Moore, Lee Ranaldo or Kim Gordon aren't good singers either. That's all.

^^^ right, I'm totally with you. this lady just baffles me.

next question: what about performers who strap iPods to their guitars?

a) to be expected.
b) rage.
c) waffle back and forth between.

I want to click "a" but I keep hitting "c" instead.

For as long as you make sure that you do it 'well', I suppose it's alright. It does sound like a SHIT, TASTELESS idea, though.

Anyone who gives a stuff about a thing like this needs to fish their cumstained teddy bear out of the skip, look it firmly in the eye and say "YOU DONT CONTROL ME ANYMORE"

allocates accumulated forest points into low level chanting

I'd be quicker to jump to the defence of Beyonce if she herself wasn't so keen to play the 'authenticity' card. Pop stars should be judged as pop stars, but when a pop star tries to elevate themselves as being somehow 'better' than that, then they're fair game for criticism if their boasts prove hollow, I suppose.

No way is that for real. The chorus sounds even more robotic than auto-tune. I like this song actually.

As for the Jonas boys. The youngest is the only one who is actually hot (minus the hair). Pretty sure he's the only one who is not legal though.

It is supposedly faked. Either way it shouldn't matter. My only point is that RnB does like to present itself as being a bit of a champion of authenticity, so it's probably more ripe for criticism than those genres that don't. It's like when Rap artists make some great claim about being from 'the street' and then get ridiculed if the reality doesn't quite correspond with the image. They create the image, basically, so more fool them.

The hipster voice of reason has arrived. Everyone, celebrate this different opinion, for it is unlike those of which we have expressed.

I've stopped caring about whatever this thread is about, but - This 'homely' person - are we actually talking about Alexandra Burke?



Because, at the risk of sounding a bit like an internet perv (Hello Rob), she's not bad looking at all.

Alexandra burke is indeed unutterably sexy. Albeit in a looking down at her bum while standing behind her in the queue at KFC kind of a way (which obviously is a great way to find anyone sexy)

with pencil-thin eyebrows like those, I'd be shocked if she could manage a simple cantrip.

can you smell it?

^^^:eek: :eek: :eek:

Hoax or not, she actually didn't sound too bad til the chorus hit (and I mean that in the most forceful way)...almost postmodern.

The only band/artists who should be allowed to use auto-tune are Daft Punk, since they use it creatively.