I agree. Having read the article through after posting it there's little actual substance in it at all besides a large portion of South-aimed bitterness.

There's certainly less actual difference in terms of people in the north and the south than some on both sides would like to believe - usually by never leaving their small hallowed patch of either. Needless to say, this statement doesn't apply to Mancunians or people from Cornwall. I was once shot at in Cornwall. Not by some yardie gangster but by some old man sitting on a stone wall. People now think Padstow and Rick Stein when they think of Cornwall. I think of old blokes with rifles taking pot shots at me. The chips there were average at best.

dude, you guys, like, spent most of the morning talking about, like, french fries, and stuff.

don't get me wrong, dude, I hope it continues. I find detailed discections of foreign concepts fascinating.

but dude, I so plan to link this thread the next time somebody gets cunty in one of summer's threads.

like, really, dude.

is that french fries or freedom fries?

we're over our hatred of all things France, but I have to say that it's left quite the void.

personally, I think that Belgium would make a suitable replacement candidate.

fucking freedom waffles, man!

Cornwall is somewhere I hold in the utmost reverence. Endemically mental. It makes south Swansea look like Milton Keynes.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to floatingslowly again.

is there a difference?

the real divide i suppose is between england, wales and scotland. if there is any hatred then its probably there.

I think the Welsh treat it as good-natured banter. I mean, don't go to Bangor when the Rugby's on, but I've never met a Welshman who genuinely hated the English. I have to say, my experience of Scotland hasn't been the same. That's not to say I don't like the Scottish - they're lush peeps - but there's a bleakness to their humour that's borne of bitterness. Possibly due to not being able to figure out how to get over a wall that's two-foot high.

I-man rastafari love the 'country' or the 'bush' as we say, but I must admit that I am terribly attached to the city, though Los Angeles is a bit complex, in reality this city is like one enormous urban suburb. I live in what might be considered a suburb by some of the back east boardees, but the lifestyle i live is by no means 'suburban' and is in fact very much a 'downtown' kind of life hopping subways and buses and walking everywhere across town. But again, LA is just an enormous urbanized, interconnected Behemoth of a Suburb!

shit it takes literally TEN MINUTES in an airplane to fly from one end to the other!

Manchester has free buses around the centre.

London has three free newspapers a day that are given out to commuters. They aren't necessarily the best ones though.

Seriously though, Manchester might have the best buses in the world for all i know, but only a Mancunian would base an entire conversation around telling you about them.

Not by a long shot, I'm afraid - I know a fuckload of people who would vehemently argue that Manchester doesn't even qualify as 'Northern'.

I've been to Manchester once and was unable to sample their public transport. I just happen to know they have free buses. It's really surprising in this day and age.

Demonrail, have you ever been to the Golden Fryer on Mile End road? I would say they do a pretty decent fish and chips.

Yeah, I know some 'wegies who say that the Geordies are soft southern bastards. The point was more about people genuinely taking it seriously than whether or not it makes sense (which it clearly doesn't).

manc buses are alright, nothing to write home about (unless your from manchester) but as with most cities the night buses are a bit of a nightmare, especially around picadilly at 2am.

the buses in LA where a bit of a nightmare because LA is just so big and if you dont know where your going then its easy to get lost and you cant really ask anyone. i walked a lot in LA and people thought i was homeless or something. Two girls at the hostel i was staying at got lost and it took them eight hours to get from venice to holywood, thats a trans atlantic flight!

I love Bristol because even though it's a reasonably large city it feels small and the countryside seems nearby. Walking up Brandon hill and being able to see the rolling hills in the distance is great.

My experience of the Welsh is generally very good, although i think an English person's experience actually in Wales depends a lot on what part of the country they're in. Although in that sense I think the same could said for a Welsh person in Wales as well.

My experience of Scottish people (albeit one based solely only those living in England) has forced me to conclude that i really don't have much time for a people that have quite depressingly managed to turn England-bashing into a kind of heritage industry. I'm sure not all Scottish people are like this but I've got better things to do than look for the exception. I'll never dismiss a Scottish person simply for being Scottish but once the sly little remarks kick in I tend to just shrug my shoulders and leave them to it.

Some days I think I'll die here, and that makes me quite happy.

I've never been to Bristol but something i like about it, at least in terms of my perception of it, is that while other cities like to promote their every cough to the world, Bristol just seems to quietly get on with things. It's like the Belgium of Britain. Hopefully with better chips though.

Some argue that Bristol is entirely lacking in cuisine and, Lebanese shops selling dogmeat notwithstanding, they're largely right.

I just wish it had a few good art galleries. And a bigger city library, not that I ever really use libraries.

Given its large West Indian connections, that sort of surprises me.

just to go back to fish n chips. here in vancouver they dont do cod, its all halibut and chips. its not unlike your cod but its just not the same.

Cod has now become so expensive in England that i think it's only a matter of time before they find a replacement for it here too.

I do appreciate aspects of each of them and loathe others. But at this particular time and place in my life, I need to be in a city. There's no telling where I might end up when and if I decide to settle down.

the city forever, the cuntry for a few days; suburbs never.

I love the city!

The inner city suburbs. Country on weekends, or runaway weeks.

I'm not surprised on a Sonic Youth board that the city would dominate. I voted that camp, but really I prefer both extremes. The best place I ever lived was a dilapidated mansion on the Eld Inlet outside Olympia that was totally in the country and also on the beach. If the landlord hadn't been such a nutter (he was the manager for the Jefferson Airplane in the '60s and the crankiest and greediest old hippie you can imagine) I'd still live there. But I'd still want to go to the city for "action" I'm sure.

The inner city. Suburbs or country are for pussies.

not the suburbs. even though i live in the ... sub-suburbs?

i like visiting the country, but i fucking hate the lack of accessibility/convenience/whatever. i only wanna go a few blocks to get gas, or the groceries, or some fuckin' taco bell or somethin', damn.

City, I like being able to walk places and hate to drive for less than an hour. Fuck the country, I've seen Deliverance.