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hevusa 09.01.2010 02:03 PM

dumbest thread EVER

Derek 09.01.2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Does anyone like the band LUSH? I bought some records of theirs for dirt cheap a year or two ago, and recent revisions has made me consider them in the top 3 bands to come from this scene.

Quoting myself so that insufferable twat above me doesn't steal the discussion.

hevusa 09.01.2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Quoting myself so that insufferable twat above me doesn't steal the discussion.



only twats quote themselves.

Jeremy 09.01.2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Does anyone like the band LUSH? I bought some records of theirs for dirt cheap a year or two ago, and recent revisions has made me consider them in the top 3 bands to come from this scene.


I like some of Lush, but I wouldn't rank them as high as you. Their records never leave me awestruck or anything, like I forget some of the songs immediately after hearing them.

Maybe I just need to listen to them more?

~Jeremy~

ann ashtray 09.01.2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
dumbest thread EVER


You know, I would rep ya for this...but it said I must spread some reps around first.

:(

GeneticKiss 09.01.2010 11:36 PM

Wow, I forgot about this thread...but I still think Black Sabbath stomp, mangle, and destroy Led Zeppelin any day of the week.

hevusa 09.02.2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Wow, I forgot about this thread...but I still think Black Sabbath stomp, mangle, and destroy Led Zeppelin any day of the week.



sorry... don't see it.

PAULYBEE2656 09.02.2010 10:01 AM

lush...upto the release of "split" which was borderline brit pop....were a fantastic band. end of arguement!

Derek 09.02.2010 11:05 AM

PAULYBEE's the man.

pad_023 02.28.2012 01:51 PM

In the same vein of the multitude of all the garage and psych rock reissues, Captured Tracks have started a shoegaze archive series.

http://capturedtracks.com/shoegaze-archives/

I'm really enjoying Should at the moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUWX2SIBBo

gmku 02.28.2012 07:13 PM

I like authentic shoegaze, much as I hate that term. By authentic, I mean early 90s, the real ones, MBV, Ride, Slowdive, Cocteau Twins, et al.

Don't argue with me about this.

E. Noisefield 02.28.2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Wow, I forgot about this thread...but I still think Black Sabbath stomp, mangle, and destroy Led Zeppelin any day of the week.


Oh are you kidding? Of course they do. I'm not really a sabbath fan, but I am really. not. a zeppelin fan.

gmku 02.28.2012 08:11 PM

I avoid both when possible. They're in my collection, and I sometimes wonder why.

E. Noisefield 02.28.2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I avoid both when possible. They're in my collection, and I sometimes wonder why.


Yeah, I think they both kind of suck! LZ has like three good songs and they're only good when people do left-field, weirdo covers of them.

Black Sabbath has to be credited for their rhythm section and for their willingness to be heavy when heavy wasn't really going on.

Also, Sabbath pretty much created stoner rock. Led Zeppelin is probably the founder of true arena heavy metal, but that's only a good thing about .01% of the time (meaning 99. 99% of heavy metal is terrible).

gmku 02.28.2012 08:45 PM

I have to be really in the mood for either. Really.

E. Noisefield 02.28.2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I have to be really in the mood for either. Really.


Well, I never listen to either by choice. Sometimes I feel like hearing "Snowblind", and every once in a great while I feel like listening to "Tangerine", but mostly I just kind of quietly accept that they exist without ever doing anything to intentionally put myself in contact with them. Sorry, but for me the '60s were about something completely different... the lead-up to punk, and the sowing of the seeds of songwriting tactics that would later be run through a 4-track by stoned college kids.

gmku 02.28.2012 09:17 PM

Well, there are about 180 degrees from JAMC and MBY and Slowdive, which right now's about all I'm playing. So I probably won't spin either in a while.

E. Noisefield 02.28.2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Well, there are about 180 degrees from JAMC and MBY and Slowdive, which right now's about all I'm playing. So I probably won't spin either in a while.


I'm on a similar kick, but instead of Slowdive its Spiritualized (in preparation for new album!!!) and The Asteroid No.4, who I just found out about the other day in this very forum!

I've never actually liked slowdive. I can't get into it. I also have a hard time with Ride.

gmku 02.28.2012 10:06 PM

Seriously?! Probably right up there in my top 5 from that time, Slowdive and Ride. Nowhere is so nice.

I'm not familiar with Spiritualized. May have to venture in.

E. Noisefield 02.28.2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Seriously?! Probably right up there in my top 5 from that time, Slowdive and Ride. Nowhere is so nice.

I'm not familiar with Spiritualized. May have to venture in.



Spiritualized fits in well with shoegaze, though they're not really (I don't think).

Very different creature than Spacemen 3. But I like them even more and they're one of my absolute top favorite bands ever!!

If you haven't heard them, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space is their classic. A shoegaze fan might do better to start out with Pure Phase and Laser Guided Melodies. Their 00's output was great, but not in a ground breaking way. Just great rock n' roll.

I mean, if you like the Velvets, JAMC and shoegaze, odds are you'll like Spiritualized.

gmku 02.28.2012 10:16 PM

Okay, thanks.

E. Noisefield 02.29.2012 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Okay, thanks.


not that you asked. but for a starting track, I'd look into "Baby i'm just a fool", "Stop Your Crying", "Think I'm in love", "Rocket shaped song", and all of the stuff from the early '90s.

E. Noisefield 02.29.2012 01:43 PM

Their new album is my early album of the year pick, for sure!

pad_023 02.29.2012 04:30 PM

If you enjoy Spiritualized, Spectrum are also worth checking out. Pete Kember's post-spacemen 3 project. Soul Kiss (Glide Divine) is a great album and pretty underated.

gmku 02.29.2012 08:28 PM

I'm on the hunt for Ladies and Gentlemen, for sure. I'll check out the stores tomorrow. I'd like to find this on LP--looks like Plain Recordings has repressed it. A great reissue label. Same label that has repressed Isn't Anything, Loveless, and some JAMC stuff.

Severian 02.29.2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
Spiritualized fits in well with shoegaze, though they're not really (I don't think).

Very different creature than Spacemen 3. But I like them even more and they're one of my absolute top favorite bands ever!!

If you haven't heard them, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space is their classic. A shoegaze fan might do better to start out with Pure Phase and Laser Guided Melodies. Their 00's output was great, but not in a ground breaking way. Just great rock n' roll.

I mean, if you like the Velvets, JAMC and shoegaze, odds are you'll like Spiritualized.


Spiritualized is the best band that's been mentioned in this thread, but they're not really shoegaze. Not in the slowdive/ride/mbv sense. I always myself when I categorize music so specifically, and actually debate with people about it. It makes me feel like a walking stereotype. But Spritualized I think is closer to "space-rock", whatever the fuck that means.

I guess the major difference is cosmetic. Spiritualized doesn't bring "shoegazing" to mind, but rather star-gazing. ... in black-and-white with sunglasses on.

Severian 02.29.2012 09:46 PM

Cotceau Twins anyone?

gmku 02.29.2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
wtf. noisefield?:confused:


I know.

I'm confused.

Did she change names again. Am I imagining I read this before? Or somebody fucking with us?

In any case, I don't like it.

gmku 02.29.2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Cotceau Twins anyone?


E. Noisefield, anyone?

E. Noisefield 03.01.2012 12:06 AM

Ugh. Sorry.

Severian 03.01.2012 12:26 AM

Ha.

pad_023 03.01.2012 02:07 PM

I bought Ride - Play EP on vinyl today for £3

It has one of my favourite Ride songs on it. Shoegaze and an a harmonica make a fantastic combination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=YdWq7gY5pAI

Severian 03.01.2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I know.

I'm confused.

Did she change names again. Am I imagining I read this before? Or somebody fucking with us?

In any case, I don't like it.


Change names again? Christ, how long has she been here? Why am I even posting this? I will ask her myself in like ten minutes.

gmku 03.01.2012 07:05 PM

Yeah, well, if it's porkwhateverthefuck, we're all screwed.

gmku 03.01.2012 07:19 PM

Ok, whatever.

E. Noisefield 03.01.2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Yeah, well, if it's porkwhateverthefuck, we're all screwed.



What is porkwhateverthefuck?

I don't have multiple accounts, trust me. It's just that someone likes to be a total dork sometimes.

demonrail666 03.01.2012 09:50 PM

I always liked Moose. Do they qualify as shoegaze?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VewHeOXqu0

E. Noisefield 03.01.2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I always liked Moose. Do they qualify as shoegaze?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VewHeOXqu0



"This video is not currently available"

Moose? I haven't heard them/of them.

Um. Mazzy Star?

demonrail666 03.02.2012 02:55 AM

Maybe this'll work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyAjghdNsM

gmku 03.02.2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield
What is porkwhateverthefuck?

I don't have multiple accounts, trust me. It's just that someone likes to be a total dork sometimes.


Gay U.K. book store worker, big fan of the Pet Shop Boys, decent photographer, liked to call me a pervert.


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