RIP was written about one of her friends who died of AIDS.

yup same.

though if sleater-kinney won i wouldn't complain.

oh, and reject all american isn't the best bikini kill album but it's still pretty banging.

doesn't surprise me how few people like bikini kill here. people on this board seem to hate most music that is political. they think it's too dogmatic.

I actually thought Bikini Kill were really well-liked on this board. Maybe not anymore. Weird.

Tonight I bought LUDACRIS - CHICKEN AND BEER.

That's actually probably the shittiest album I've ever bought but i love it.

bingo

i really appreciate a lot of stuff they've done though. i hate danger is a favorite. i like when tobi sings.

the only reason why i dont like bikini kill is because the music sucks.
there are up to 5 acceptable tracks and the rest is so dull.

Bikini Kill were AMAZING!

I don't hate political music. I hate music that is sonically very conservative and sucky trying to stand on its own because of some (supposedly) altruistic political motivation.

Bikini Kill = the least politically developed form of feminism.

gonna have to agree.

Hi. :)

It's really funny that Bikini Kill are credited with ushering in 3rd wave feminism. The fact that men are still so central to their political message feels very 2nd wave to me. It's the kind of binary thinking that 3rd wave/radical feminism moved away from... i mean, those women might identify as radical feminists but the actual musical content says otherwise. I also feel like they fall into a lot of the bullshit tropes of identity politics. If I was to follow BK's logic, as a male feminist interested in fighting women's oppression, am I somehow forbidden because I'm biologically predisposed to having a dick instead of a cunt?

I tend to agree with bell hooks' vision of feminism as a conduit for women to enter the larger world/larger collective struggles instead of just existing as a group distinct from some monolithic notion of men who are solely linked with perpetuating sexism (another bullshit factor, women don't even need men anymore to reinscribe sexism). If I was a gung-ho feminist and really wanted to use music as a medium for political consciousness raising, I wouldn't try and limit my struggle to the narrow punk scene that BK came out of. I read some interview where she complained about guys coming to shows since she "wasn't making the music for them." Sorry grrrl, but if you feel like there aren't enough women coming to see you... chances are its YOU that's doing something wrong and not translating well.

Slant 6 is so much better. Kathleen Hanna is seriously on the level of Adrienne Rich misandrist annoyingness. And this is coming from a queer male.

I also have a prob with calling people "female artists" and throwing them in with the dated riot grrrl scene. You're creating a ghetto. PJ Harvey was smart to distance herself from all that nonsense. 50 Ft. Queenie, Man-Size, Happy & Bleeding, Hair, Me-Jane = songs involving strife between the sexes that most riot grrls wished they could write.

hello.

i wouldn't say slant 6 was riot grrl. they were great though. the frumpies and bratmobile were my favorite riot grrl bands

are you talking about when she was in the great pop punk band DISCOUNT (the best band to come out of florida)? cause anything else she has done is complete shit.

linus
bratmobile
the mighty huggy bear
bikini kill
skinned teen
mecca normal
voodoo queens
slant 6
cwa
mambo taxi



maybe not all riot grrrl but they rocked and were painted with that one brush....

People don't like Bikini Kill? Was that ever even an option?

Bikini Kill are musically conservative - from SYG? Did anyone here ever care about musical conservativism? I know there are a few here who aren't musically conservative in some way (and I wouldn't necessarily include myself in that group) but... well, Bikini Kill are just great. I don't care that their music isn't as radical as something else, they're just very good, aren't they? If Dinosaur (yawn) jr or My Bloody (yawn) Valentine were women who talked about feminism, would they suddenly be dismissed as not having invented avant-garde wheels?

Although I'd side with Le Tigre, just because theirs was one of the best shows I've seen in the last ten years.

As T&B mentioned her, I'm changing my vote for Missy.

pussy whipped was ok, the rest uninspired and predictable.

at the time i didn't realize, but if i listen to reject all american now it makes me cringe. i have attempted to hear the whole thing many times, never managed.

i like fucking was good tho. yeah yeah.

i think this is a good example of doing the riot thing right (musically)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAbgq...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUHxx0ZeIZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqba...eature=related

MEMORIES

even this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GLmw...rom=PL&index=5

discount were shit

the kills and the dead weather SLAY



hey...FUCK the people

The Kills' whole schtick is laughable, but that dude is a decent guitar player. They'd benefit if Mosshart wasn't a walking cliche. Only Dead Weather song I liked was Will There Be Enough Water?

In England we had the Voodoo Queens. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRm6rEUA_04

everyone knows harry pussy are the best band to come out of florida, adris hoyos would literally destroy that other chick

the trouble with punk pop is that even decent punk pop is still a watered down version of something better

the best band to come out of florida was jack off jill. obviously! like, duhz!