Ok I just realized. What pisses me off is the MY FRIEND.
He finishes his sentences with MY FRIEND.

"This is truly appaling, my friend"
word -> sound -> power my friend


etc.

It is patronizing.
STOP WITH THE MY FRIEND and it'll be cool.

Arab deli owners say 'my friend' and 'boss' a lot. It makes you feel good about yourself. And maybe buy more stuff from them. And maybe be less inclined to shoot them.

i imagine in that case they truly mean my friend. not "i dont care who the fuck you are i just wanna sound wise".

Nah, no one that runs a deli or bodega wants to be friends with the customers. They just want them not to steal or otherwise mess up the merchandise.

'My friend' is always a strategic connotation.

could you be any more silly?





Stop assuming everyone is being patronizing, can't you accept that some people out there are sincerely polite?

No, my friend.

so, where can I get these cards?

I tend to use the term my friend when talking to folks but it's usually after I've met them and talked to them a couple of times or did business at their place of business. Mainly because if I can buy it at the corner store and give the little guy the business instead of the big chains then I will and I encourage others to do the same. So since I've interacted with him or her why not address them as friend or by their given name if I know it or if they're wearing a "big tricked out name tag" (ie: Flo).....

suchfriendsaredangerous is my friend, my friend

well, if you know their names you should use their names.
i personally only use "my friend" for patronizing purposes.
which would be completely ok if he was homeless.
i would kind of like it even.

I would rather have someone call me "my friend" than "fuckface"

are those the two choices you get?

I get choices?

i stated my point. florida is not the 'south' . too many foreigners, not enough blacks. etc.
its too much of a melting pot. all the true southern states have pretty similar percentages of blacks and foreign-speaking peoples.

the most racist place i've ever been is australia.

my cousins up in ohio are way more racist than 90% of the people i know in the south, because their towns are so white, [2 black kids in their large public high school for example].

go to a public school in savannah and it's probably majority black or close to even, kids aren't growing up segregated here. my county was largely Obama, etc.

i really don't think you've lived here in the south suchfriends, and i really don't think you should make sweeping generalizations based on a few people who tell you stories about their neighbors.

please, don't project your porkchop from yo plate onto mine part-nah!
all people are my friends, because I genuinely seek to be kind and friendly with all folks, but especially those who have a disagreement with me, because we should be even friendlier to smooth things out..

I got no beef with you, and the 'my friend' was not condescending or patronizing in the least, it was honest and sincere.

what sweeping generalizations are those which I made? I did not in any place say ALL floridians are racist, nor all southerners. Why can't Florida be the South for 'positive' southern characteristics? Just because I chose to dwell on negative factors does not discredit the Southern status of Florida but regardless.. I am sorry, if cultural arguments won't stick with you, surely geography will, Florida is most definitely the southern most portion of the continental United States. Get over it, its the South! Further, as others have already pointed out, Florida was part of the confederacy. I am sorry brother, I did not write the history or geography books, I just read em ;)

Just for the record, 'more black' doesn't equate to less racist. And that works on both ends.... i.e. apartheid South Africa where the ruling minority was white, or simply that in a large black population you still get black people being racist as well.

i know. my whole point is that i would know, because i grew up here... its mostly older people who are still clinging to racism as far as my experience in the south. i have found my family that live in canada and ohio always more of an issue out of race than most people down here... its probably because they only see one or two black people a week. i know it doesn't necessarily mean they are 'racist' per se, but more aware of skin color i should say, as a means of being different



and suchfriends - it's not about geography. i'm done arguing with you because you seem to be missing the point, it was mostly a joke anyhow. but come to the actual 'south' and ask people here if they consider florida a 'southern' state. notice the quotations, meaning partly a joke, and referring to the fact that i am not talking about geography. this is my last reply on this topic towards you, because sonofabitch, i can't make this any more clear.

the most outwardly racist place I have ever visited is Boston Massachusetts.

Yeah, the best cure for racism is old racists dying out. And interracial porn.

I don't need to smooth things out.

You don't need to act so benevolent and friendly and non-judgemental, this isn't nickelodeon or something.

The fact that I get angry at things people say does not mean I dislike them or can't be friends with them.

I just don't feel like acting like a carebear the whole time. It feels more honest that way.

I live in Worcester Massachusetts and I have no defense to defend Boston with. Rob is correct on his observation. While we're much better than Boston we still have room for improvement in Worcester.

Do you like Worcestershire Sauce?

as a matter of fact I do. It's dynamite with burgers.

We are about 30 minutes from GA does that count for you? I don't have palm trees in my yard. Just oaks and pines. Your crazy if you don't think this is the south.

South Florida is less "Southern", but really just on the coastal areas. Are you familiar woth the backwoods towns strung along the center line?

I work for those canadians. Tey just come down here for vacation.

No he is acknowledging that those people do exist in the state. Not saying they are all like that. I grew up around these people, some are family members. I think people don't realize this because they only think Disney world when Florida comes to mind.

I think you can purchase your own custom card on the link I uploaded at the beginning. But I'm not sure. I actually read about this in a local paper and googled until I found the card because it pissed me off.

psh that's all i think about when I think of Florida.

Disney world sucks. It's just concrete on a giant swamp.

I'm glad Sonic GAIL jumped in, it was getting so silly around here. If all you see in Florida is Disney, its like saying all of LA is West LA fashionistas or vegan nazis from Silverlake... but in South LA is a bunch of jumping gang activities, in East LA the immigrants are pushing tamales and raspados on the block with shopping carts.. rich black folks postd up like the Cosbys in Lidera Heights... LA is such a diverse place, and this is just one city (that has a third of the state)!

In Florida there is a lot of diversity as well.. sure there are tourists and caribbeans, and also rich white folks and retirees, plus normal american urban folk, and there are gangs and shootings and drug dealing, all that normal good americana city life.. but there are also plenty of backwoods racist mother fuckers, ignorant as folks, po folks, etc etc, all of which folks like those arguing with me here I would suppose would rather not acknowledge they are there in Florida... america is a very very diverse place, but we must call out and address the negative and minimize it.

coastal areas is where all the population is. cept for orlando. but i've been there several times, it's borderline 'southern' .

and i acknowledged the northern cities... you are still a minority. if you chopped off the state at orlando, the northern half might be accepted... but the most populous cities are Tampa/St Pete, Miami, Lauderdale, Orlando, and Jax, right? only Jax qualifies above that imaginary line, so I'm sorry, yr state is really not truly 'southern'. its nothing to be sad about, its just how it is

I thought southern was in reference to a direction dave

suchfriends: props

I'm talking about geographics not population. The population has grown rapidly, but that does not mean that this ain't the damn south man. I have traveled all the way down to the tip of the keys. Woods and swamps lined the interstate. Deep in those swamps are communities full of First baptist Churchs, and people wearing trucker hats, and riding around with dog boxes and when you drive down the road there is a deer head with no antlers some thoughtless fool discarded, or a couch nestled in the bushes in the ditch.

Go watch that movie Rosewodd. It will teach you some about racism in FL. I am proud to say that the founders of my town helped those poor people find safety when they reached Bryceville. That railroad track runs through Bryceville. It makes my trailer shake everytime a train goes by.

you guys don't get it.

a hick can be from anywhere. there are a ton of hicks and white trash in ohio, that doesn't make it the 'south'.

Texas isn't the 'south' either, it's 'Texas'

brother, you don't seem to get it very well yourself. It is simple.. if extreme or open racists (not hicks) can be found anywhere, from LA to Boston, from Ohio to Mississippi, surely they can be found Florida correct? However, Florida happens to be in "the South." So if there are racists in Florida and it happens to be in the South, how is it not the South? You forget that none of us accuse all Floridians of being guilty by association, but come off it, who the cap fit let them wear it! The difference between racists in Ohio, Boston or Los Angeles (there are plenty of these fucks here as well) is that these racists are not found in the traditional hotbed of racism in America. Ohio, Boston or Los Angeles do not have the extreme history of radical and even deadly racism which the South, and Florida included, have.. we all get that all of florida in fact by means entirely racists, and that racists are a minority, but none-the-less, it is most definitely "the South"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South

"Although originally considered Deep or Lower South, the states of Florida and Texas—as a whole—are not usually classified with this sub-region today. While areas of both (notably East Texas and the Florida panhandle) still retain many characteristics of the Deep South, heavy migration from outside the South as well as other historical circumstances have had the effect of diluting its overall cultural influence elsewhere within these states.
In the case of Florida, some 15% of Florida's population are retired people from all over the country. This is especially apparent in coastal South Florida. Many families (especially from the Northeast) move to Florida, and have become well-cemented into the area. In many parts of the state, this creates a cultural atmosphere very distinct from the rest of the Deep South. The culture is even further influenced by the huge Hispanic presence (20.1% of the population is Hispanic with 15.94% as White Hispanic). While most Deep South states have some semblance of a Hispanic population, they are nowhere near Texas' or Florida's in size.[citation needed] This diversity occurs mainly in South Florida and Central Florida. However those native to Florida (sometimes referred to as a Florida Cracker), in many parts of the state, such as the Florida Panhandle, North Central Florida, the Florida Heartland, and parts of rural Florida, do maintain the Deep South culture.
In addition to migration from non-Southern states and an ever growing Hispanic population in recent decades, the settlement history of Texas after the Civil War was also a major factor in its becoming separated from the generally regarded Deep South. The western half of the state was a frontier after the conflict, and although the vast majority of new settlers were displaced Southerners looking to get a new start and Southern culture very much dominated, the resulting cattle boom and cowboy era gave rise to a way of life for many which was in stark contrast to that of the ante-bellum Deep South. Too, the physical environment (plains and prairies) of large parts of Texas differed considerably from that of the forested and cliched "moonlight and magnolias" Lower South. Although cotton remained "king" in Texas, these factors—along with the popularity of Hollywood "western movies"—began to establish Texas as "different" from the other states of the Deep South."


educate yrselves.

I don't even know what point is really trying to be proved, but I know that I have lived here for 31 years and I have seen the state from one end to the other. As far as I am concerned it's the South.

Maybe yr just focused on the coastal areas because of the bitches in bikinis.

its my friend and brother.

You only have to look at a map of the US to know Florida is in the South.

have you spent time in any other deep south states?

you're experience is your experience, isolated.

i'm sorry but unless you've been living under a rock for the last 20 years, you need to realize your state is not the 'deep south'. nothing to be upset over... in fact, it's a good thing. celebrate your state's diversity!

but i'm sitting here providing links and facts and sources for my argument, and you are sitting there and not providing anything but yr opinion. and suchfriends is sitting his ass in LA and doesn't know what he's talking about

please stfu, for the last time