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Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.18.2010 09:27 PM

I think some of you need to catch up with what Fred Durst has been up to lately.

http://www.evanjealous.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m94mZAbzO7M

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.18.2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Speaking of bands that are usually made fun of... I remember owning a Cradle of Filth CD when I was a lot younger and thinking it was HORRIBLE but I'm listening to it again via youtube and it's honestly not as bad as I thought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZVPF...eature=related The guitars to the intro of this song are AWESOME I say.



Yeah, Cradle of Filth get too much heat. They're pretty alright at times.

I ironically had the same experience with HIM. I gave them another shot recently, and their first album is absolutely killer. There's no doubt in my mind about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il3n2...eature=related

batreleaser 04.19.2010 05:37 PM

This band has never been good.

Norma J 04.19.2010 09:44 PM

I liked them when I was 14. I can only put it down to an angst thing.

atsonicpark 04.19.2010 10:38 PM

i'm going to say, "THIS IS FOR ALL THE SICK KIDS. WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS, YO I FEEL YA DAWG. YO, AND ALL YOU QUADRAPALEGICS, PARAPALEGICS... SHAKE THOSE TITTIES!!"

Dr. Eugene Felikson 05.07.2010 04:17 PM

 


I hope the new album sounds a lot like 3 dollar bill.

They should have never mellowed out.

Toilet & Bowels 05.07.2010 04:35 PM

i don't understand how a person could like sonic youth and also like pure cheese like limp biscuit.

atsonicpark 05.07.2010 07:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUUOQw9vM0I

AMAZING new song!

atsonicpark 05.07.2010 07:35 PM

Seriously, I have a feeling this will be album of the year.. amazing stuff.

WHY TRY
YOU GONNA DIE
YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO THE GATE IN THE SKY


Gonna blow it up like a TNT, rock it like a dolla bill 3!

atsonicpark 05.07.2010 07:36 PM

2010: The Year Of The Cobra.

atsonicpark 05.07.2010 07:40 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaVX_a1wTAc

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to that teaser! fred's back to screaming!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLaw...eature=related

one of the coolest guitar riffs ever


this album is seirously going to be AWESOME. Color my excited.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 05.07.2010 08:14 PM

I can't wait.

alyasa 05.08.2010 06:30 AM

Tool and Deftones are nu-metal. And maybe Pantera... ALL the rest are just pop metal bands in the vein of Phil Spector being raped by The Jesus Lizards; which is cool for all of 15 minutes; after which, that shit just gets tired, bro...

atsonicpark 05.08.2010 06:48 AM

Strange, Tool and Deftones are the least nu-metal I can think of. Tool, especially, predates all that shit, and has nothing in common with any of it except drop-d. Tool is what I'd call progressive pop metal. Deftones are "we wish we were shoegaze but our record label won't let us do that so let's just do a bunch of 1 finger riffs on guitars tuned to mud sharp, but make the production atmospheric" metal.

alyasa 05.08.2010 07:07 AM

Well, sorry , but I belive strongly that nu-metal, metal , rock , rap and all of these other 'genres' are just media-enforced labels on manufactured, pre-fabricated unoriginal muzak rip-offs, thought up by record industry executives to increase record sales.


Korn had a vision within the context of their metal band music, with their then unusual (unusual until Limp Bizkit ripped them off, that is,) use of a seven-string guitar to encompass a broader range of low-frequency metal guitar mayhem.(The seventh string was lower than the usual six strings, not higher.) Also, Johnathan Davis, who was mentioned in the write up above as having a guttural growl, was a victim of abuse in his childhood, and he sought to lyricize those turbulent and highly personal experiences into the context of early Korn music, making it an angry, raw, very heavy, twisted and schizophrenic musical experience.


Korn were actually preceeded by a slew of underground hardcore punk bands, originating mostly from America, and driven by the straight edge ethos of Fugazi and Minor Threat and a slightly more metallish and heavy sound. These bands even incorporated some heavy metal-sounding riffs into their music, making it sound highly unique, and yes, they had a form of the rap-shout vocal style in their music too.. Not forgetting Beastie Boys' part in all of it; with Looking Down The Barrel Of A Gun and Sabotage; as heard in the recent Star Trek movie... Not to mention Afrika Bambaata's rock infused funk and soul; and even all those fusion bands of the 70's; who have been sampled ceaselessly by the 90's hip hop communities (including the ones across the pond in places like Bristol)


The most high-profile of these bands probably was Sick Of It All. From New York, they had a minor hit with Just Look Around, which featured rap-like lyrics that focused on the state of a modern society slathered with hate and prejudice. The song was bass-driven and had a very groovy feel, though it remained quite heavy, as it was played almost exclusively on the low E string. This song was released sometime in the mid to late eighties.


Bands like Rage Against The Machine and Korn were probably influenced in part by the appearance of all these bands, if not by the music itself. Rage Against The Machine and Korn (and some other bands as well,) managed to break through the mainstream and gain acceptance and popularity among the MTV crowd and the mallsters and high-school jocks and cheerleaders and dirt-bike enthusiasts and other social animals of every ilk and stripe.


This was around the time that the term nu-metal started to surface. Rushing to quickly encapsulate the whole new broad range of diverse musical styles that were springing up in the mainstream (read: teenage audience), into an easily-palatable wholesome package, record companies, radio stations and music video channels blessed everything into a sort of unholy union; lumping together all the musical nuances and subtleties they couldn't understand too well into a tightly-cramped, highly restrictive, creativity-stifling box called nu-metal.


What everyone believes to be nu-metal doesn't even exist, at least not in the way most people perceive it. It's just a convinient way to sell music, label it so sales and marketing personnel can package it in a shiny, brand-spanking new sheer-plastic case, that looks so good, but tastes so corrosive and toxic. For metal music, heavy music, any music to progress, somehow these labels that have enabled uninspiring, unoriginal music from uninspiring, unoriginal bands to gain precedence and let these bands take credit for something they copied wholesale from other people, (not very well-copied either, in my humble opinion) must be at least forgotten and ignored, if not universally derided and exposed for what it truly is, a major marketing ploy, that is - god forbid -killing the music.


In essence, probably, the music we hear now, is just an extension of what Kurt Cobain started, for better or worse. When Smells Like Like Teen Spirit exploded onto radio,(read this article for an in-depth look at the impact of Nirvana on modern music and the implications of Kurt Cobain's suicide: http://dir.salon.com/ent/music/featu...ain/index.html It was inevitable that one day heavy, uncommon music, real left field genres like industrial and core music would be thrust into the mainstream. This is just probably a teething phase.

atsonicpark 05.08.2010 07:30 AM

I think KoRn just liked Helmet a lot, really.

alyasa 05.08.2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I think KoRn just liked Helmet a lot, really.

Haha.. Maybe... I do too... Helmet had a pretty unique sound...

atsonicpark 05.08.2010 08:04 AM

Yeah, I LOVE Strap It On. Love the, uh, staccato riffing on it.

alyasa 05.08.2010 08:06 AM

Yeah... And their sound was REALLY edgy... ^_^ so thin and fuzzy, for a supposedly 'hardcore' band... :)

hevusa 05.08.2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i don't understand how a person could like sonic youth and also like pure cheese like limp biscuit.


I don't believe this is possible... one probably doesn't understand SY if you can even tolerate a band like limp.

alyasa 05.08.2010 09:45 AM

Limp Bizkit is just that: Cheese... Just because you enjoy the Beluga Caviar that is SY; it is not impossible to also enjoy the Cheese that is Limp Bizkit; though probably it is not a good idea to enjoy them at the same time... The presence of one does not automatically negate the the existence of the other... Just because Cheese is a highly-processed, artificial, mass-produced consumer, populist product (i'm referring to the cheese in supermarkets; the slices like Kraft), doesn't mean that it cannot be eaten by whomever so chooses. And just because Beluga Caviar is a highly refined, highly exquisite, difficult-to-prepare piece of haute cuisine; does not mean that it is a necessary part of your daily diet. I know many ghetto kids who did not die from a lack of beluga caviar in their diet...

hevusa 05.08.2010 09:47 AM

You are mistaking cheese for shit.

alyasa 05.08.2010 10:09 AM

I wouldn't go that far... :) Limp Bizkit actually managed to sell approximately 50 million records so far; so that's a lot of people who will readily disagree with you. I am not using their sales record as a form of validity for their band or their music. I don't even like them at all. It's just that they are pop metal for the nickelodeon crowd. And that does not necessarily make them shit. Although I'm sure i completely dislike them for that; because Pantera managed to get on Spongebob Squarepants without dating Britney Spears. Anyhoo, here's what Bobby Christgau thinks of them:

"Minimal sexism, doody jokes for corporate America, and the best rapping money can borrow ("Rollin' [Urban Assault Vehicle]," "Getcha Groove On"). *"

Explanation:
A * Honorable Mention is a worthy effort consumers attuned to its overriding aesthetic or individual vision may well like.

hevusa 05.08.2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
I wouldn't go that far... :) Limp Bizkit actually managed to sell approximately 50 million records so far; so that's a lot of people who will readily disagree with you.


So did fucking Garth Brooks...
Limp Bizkit represents everything I hate about America in one backwards turned, red baseball cap. I could find more culture and style on the bottom of my shoe.

alyasa 05.08.2010 11:48 AM

To be honest, I think Garth Brooks isn't that bad of a guy... But what are we talking about anyway? But it's true, America is the land of excess, crass consumerism and capitalism. But it's also the land of rock 'n' roll, baby! If anything; Limp Bizkit is just the collective voice of the youth of America growing up in the 2000s, in the shadow of post 9/11 emasculation...

hevusa 05.08.2010 12:00 PM

 

alyasa 05.08.2010 12:05 PM

 

alyasa 05.08.2010 12:05 PM

One's a country singer and the other is a nu-metal singer.... :)

chicka 05.08.2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
I don't believe this is possible... one probably doesn't understand SY if you can even tolerate a band like limp.


I just don't understand the reasoning going on here. Why in the world can't I like both? Obviously I love Sonic Youth but I enjoyed that new tune by Limp quite a bit. Right now I'm listening to the Beach Boys. Later on who knows maybe The B 52's. I think the problem with some people is they over analyze the music they're listening to looking for some hidden meaning or message
or something else instead of just enjoying the noise being presented...

hevusa 05.08.2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicka
I just don't understand the reasoning going on here. Why in the world can't I like both? Obviously I love Sonic Youth but I enjoyed that new tune by Limp quite a bit. Right now I'm listening to the Beach Boys. Later on who knows maybe The B 52's. I think the problem with some people is they over analyze the music they're listening to looking for some hidden meaning or message
or something else instead of just enjoying the noise being presented...



So it is ok to like DMB and SY? Or Creed and SY? FUCK THAT LOGIC.
That is fucktard logic. It is not ok to like Limp and SY.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 05.08.2010 03:26 PM

hahahah ^

louder 05.08.2010 03:37 PM

from now on, every time i'd want to like a band that isn't sy, i promise to ask hevusa for permission

atsonicpark 05.08.2010 04:10 PM

I like a few Garth Brooks and Toby Keith songs.

See, my thing is, I like music, PERIOD. I don't base my liking of a band on their fanbase, what they're associated with, etc. I like a band with interesting songwriting, cool riffs, etc. Limp Bizkit has a really cool, interesting sound, that is unique (or, uh, was) and appeals to me. I know that's "Weird" but it also makes life a lot more tolerable, when you can find a cool bass groove or a neat drum beat or something, even in the worst shit ever.

hevusa 05.08.2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
from now on, every time i'd want to like a band that isn't sy, i promise to ask hevusa for permission


it should be fairly obvious.

atsonicpark 07.07.2010 02:20 AM

 


YES!

atsonicpark 07.07.2010 02:22 AM

"Gold Cobra" tentative track listing:

01. Introbra
02. Douchebag
03. Why Try
04. 90 To 10
05. Rock Ship
06. Brand New Meaning
07. Shark Attack
08. Darkside Of The Moon
09. GFY
10. Venomous (LBGC)
11. Walking Away
12. Loser
13. Dance Floor
14. Back Porch
15. Angels
16. Middle Finger
17. Thank You
18. Outrobra

atsonicpark 07.07.2010 02:36 AM

new clips sound awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWvti...eature=related

listen to some of those riffs..

atsonicpark 07.07.2010 02:41 AM

New single!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taDU2...eature=related

"HEAVY METAL BEATIN' ON YOUR BRAIN GONNA CRUSH!"

"MAYBE I'M EXPLICIT BUT MAN IT'S JUST THE BIZKIT!"

Dr. Eugene Felikson 07.07.2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
 


YES!



Incredible! Much better than I had anticipated!

Dr. Eugene Felikson 09.23.2010 07:24 PM

New single - Walking Away

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJH82SPhiZM


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