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the big quasar 08.22.2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Man, sometimes discovering "new" music amounts to little more than looking back. I don't care if it came out in 1910 or 2010 ...


So true. And look how they morphed primitive 1930s' blues into a new era. Sometimes Plant tried too hard and over-cooked it, but Bonham and Page never sound dated to my ears.

alteredcourse 08.22.2010 09:18 PM

It's so much of a weird chemical feeling/thinking relationship, eh ?

I mean...theres going to be a particular vein that is hit when you really, really connect with a sound or a sensual stimulation. It's apart of what youre made of. It's fun to grow older and to be able to bundle up everything that has touched you, it doesnt matter if they make categorical sense.

edit, that is an excellent way to put it, quasar. There are so many dynamics to include (media, random chance, economics) to predict the success of a band who perhaps relied heavily on their influences that might not otherwise seem "special"...so as with any music, it comes down to your own blood.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.23.2010 07:54 AM

Zeppelin III is great.

My favorite song from Zeppelin III:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1KCCXD7bw


Led Zeppelin III was the first band that got me interested in alternate tunings, since the first alternate tuning I tried was DADGAD (I believe Friends is in Open E.) They brought Celtic music to Americans, much like the Beatles brought Indian music to the West.

tesla69 08.23.2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Some might say Elvis and the like already did the same thing here in the US...but, it was still WILDLY different. I like Elvis, but once he reached a certain chapter he lost ALL street cred. He was just too difficult to take seriously...kinda like where the Stones are now ('least they still have Keith...)..


I don't think we really understand the impact Elvis had on these rockers when they were growing up in the late 50's/early 60's.

Analagy, there is a DVD release of Marilyn Chamber's Insatiable, with a picture of her in some very cut off shorts, which I recall in the early 80's was extremely sexy and provacative, but I could look away from the store display this is in, Kim's on 1st Ave, and see women walking down the street even shorter cut shorts. The pornification of western culture is incredible if you start looking for it.

The Watcher 06.05.2011 09:11 AM

I've been on a fuckin' Zeppelin bender these last few days, I, II and IV were records I found in my dads collection (I always wondered why he never had III ha ha) and I've had an off and on relationship with them over the years but after reading Hammer Of The Gods last year I have a new improved respect for their legacy....... You guys ever check out that DVD (not The Song Remains The Same which is naturally awesome) but the double DVD with all the great live footage? I heartily endorse it!

The Watcher 06.05.2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperCreep
...or yes circa tales of topographic oceans, for that matter.

i'm fairly sure that "punk" had more of a problem with that shit and genesis than they ever did with led zeppelin.


Yes and Genesis (Gabriel era) are both so awesome...... This is why I have no tolerance for punks anymore, so stereotypical in their opinions....... Tales From Topographic Oceans is a very underrated album........

The Watcher 06.05.2011 03:22 PM

How The West Was Won is a fucking great album....... Frankly I'd be inclined to check out say and entire album of live 30 minute performances of Dazed & Confused...... You know it would have to be like 3 CDs, it's a very long song......

Also IV used to be one I liked but thought radio had ruined for me, but I've been jamming it about lately and it's a very solid album from start to finish...... Their best? Only time will tell, but it is a great solo on Stairway....... Fantastic even........

hirsute_biped 06.05.2011 11:46 PM

saw plant & band of joy a while a go, first time i felt interested enough to check him out. this is actually a really good band. i am pleasantly surprised. nice new arrangements of zep tunes, good covers and originals.

I really dig dazed and corfused, black mountainside/white summer, several others...

zep was good at loud raunchy blues-rock, but because so many others were doing that, it seems less interesting than when they stretch out into other vistas...

atsonicpark 06.06.2011 02:51 AM

technialy page is about the best guitarist i can think of. one of em at least. dude can do ANYTHING.. he's good at making noise, fingerpicking, all sorts of flashy guitar tricks or doing shit restrained, playing acoustic, playing bass, playing TRIPLE NECK guitars, playing 12-string, etc. he's all over the place, so many classic riffs. he's pretty brilliant.

but i'm not too into this band.

jimmy page has some really cool solo stuff and the page/plant album engineered by albini is topnotch.

EVOLghost 06.06.2011 01:28 PM

Paige is a riff-master.

the ikara cult 06.06.2011 01:30 PM

Sabbath > Zeppelin every time

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.06.2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult
Sabbath > Zeppelin every time


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to the ikara cult again.

atsonicpark 06.06.2011 06:31 PM

yeah, sabbath is all around maybe my favorite band ever that i don't listen to much.

the ikara cult 06.06.2011 06:36 PM

im glad the people of the sy world recognise this immutable fact

Pelle 06.07.2011 01:55 PM

Led Zeppelin are great.

Presence is one of my fav albums of all time.

hirsute_biped 06.10.2011 05:53 PM

sabbath undisputably rocks socks off, but my estimation of the worth of zep has increased in recent years.

add no quarter to my list of awesome tunes prevously listed.

demonrail666 06.10.2011 07:02 PM

It's weird, scanning my CDs, almost half are by bands that quite obviously like Led Zeppelin a LOT, but I can't stand them.

Mortte Jousimo 06.14.2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It's weird, scanning my CDs, almost half are by bands that quite obviously like Led Zeppelin a LOT, but I can't stand them.

Have you found what´s the problem with Zeppelin? I can imagine it´s Plant´s voice.

demonrail666 06.14.2011 09:28 AM

It probably is Plant's voice, yeah. It seems to be a quite common obstacle.

evollove 06.14.2011 10:08 AM

Plant's voice, yes. Other obstacles for me include:

The awful lyrics.
The hilariously bombastic drumming.
The sloppy guitar playing.
The fake blues riffs.
The silliness.
The seriousness.
The naked chests.

I guess John Paul Jones is the only element that doesn't irritate me. Though I hate his name.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.14.2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It's weird, scanning my CDs, almost half are by bands that quite obviously like Led Zeppelin a LOT, but I can't stand them.

I feel the same way with the Beatles. Basically, 64% of my music library are directly influenced by the Beatles, and yet there is only ONE beatles tune there, and its a Hendrix cover of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ;)

Mortte Jousimo 06.17.2011 11:11 AM

I used to hate the Smiths. And the problem was Morrissey´s voice. Then I don´t know what happend but I heard some Morrissey´s solo song and I liked it! Now I have started also to like the Smiths... Beatles and Zeppelin have always been one of my favourites.

SONIC GAIL 06.17.2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I've never been able to enjoy Led Zeppelin. I always enjoyed the music and instrumentation, but I could never get into Robert Plant. But lately, after picking up III and giving it an honest chance I find myself getting into it.. In fact, for the first time in my life, I woke up the other day actually craving to listen to that album! I was like, "for real?"




 


With Zeppelin I always defined myself by what I am not, but lately perhaps I can shift my perspective...

Any recommendations?


luv the albumn and the Zep specialyy Plant

EVOLghost 06.17.2011 12:58 PM

houses of holy and 2 are my favorites.

EVOLghost 06.17.2011 12:59 PM

Oh! and....people just need to listen to "How the West Won".....I love that fucking live comp. It's fantastic.

The Watcher 06.17.2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Oh! and....people just need to listen to "How the West Won".....I love that fucking live comp. It's fantastic.


+6....

hirsute_biped 07.15.2011 08:50 PM

new official Jimmy Page website went up today with daily postings of rare unreleased tracks, which will be unarchived and only available for streaming for 24 hrs a piece. Today's track is not that interesting. Hopefully there will be good ones later. Some pics of him at Abby Road studios in 2010, so hopefully some new music in the future of a non-horrific quality.

www.jimmypage.com

The Watcher 07.15.2011 09:02 PM

I thought Jimmy Page was awesome in It Might Get Loud - I wanted to stab Jack White and The Edge in the face with a gun.......


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