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I'm a pretentious intellectual fucker. PISS OFF.

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I'm a pretentious intellectual fucker. PISS OFF.

Yeah, but you're gay. It's practically a prerequisite.

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I'm a pretentious intellectual fucker. PISS OFF.

I had you down as endearingly obnoxious. You are definitely pretentious intellectual fucker material though. Give it a few years.

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I'm a pretentious intellectual fucker. PISS OFF.

of course you are, munchkin.

i'm a-comin' truncy!!!

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Originally Posted by Glice

I had you down as endearingly obnoxious. You are definitely pretentious intellectual fucker material though. Give it a few years.

Ahh. How sweet. I'll definitely try.

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Originally Posted by truncated

Yeah, but you're gay. It's practically a prerequisite.

I do not need to take your charity excuses. I'm fully capable of making up my own, kthx.

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i'm a-comin' truncy!!!

Could you be a darling and never post pictures that look like a girl that I once boned? Thanks ever so.

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Originally Posted by Glice

Could you be a darling and never post pictures that look like a girl that I once boned? Thanks ever so.

oh wait, everyone's fucked her. sorry.

DISCLAIMER: If we're all done with the topic of this thread already, feel free to skip it and laugh at me.

Unfortunately, I probably fall into the pretentious category on occassion - but I strongly agree with truncated. I hate when an artist's work is viewed is somehow affected by their popularity or by common opinion - whether for good or for bad. It works both ways. When you're with one group of people, everyone likes [insert popular band here] because they're popular, and in another group of people the same band is ostracized for the same reason.

Example: Liking Pearl Jam does not make you a mainstream trend-following asshole. Conversely, hating them does not make you a musical pedant. If you like them, you like them. It's just a bunch of sounds mixed together. Obscurity or popularity should not affect whether you like something or not. That is a decision, not a taste. This doesn't mean that people can't be drawn to obscure music exclusively, but that they should not be drawn to it simply because it's obscure (and because it therefore somehow makes them better than everyone else.)

And it seems like sometimes people feel obligated to state their opinion on something just to gain credibility for their opinion - to somehow prove their worth. I could care less if you dislike U2 because you are "aware of their lack of talent," or whatever your reason is. Many people here would think less of you if you liked them, and that's ridiculous. If you like them, good for you. It is not a sin to disagree with people who think their opinion is sovereign.

You're right about the "what are you listening to" thread, too. I'm guilty of that, myself. I'm more likely to post there if I'm listening to Sun Ra or Fushitsusha than if I'm listening to Jimmy Eat World or John Mayer, which I listen to much more often. But really, who cares? Coldplay and Radiohead are similar. Yet I never see anyone listing Coldplay on there, because on this forum Coldplay is "uncool" because most people here lean towards Radiohead and hold a predetermined stereotype towards Coldplay.

And finally, I do think that many peoples' opinions are genuine. I don't assume that because someone hates Coldplay and likes Radiohead, they must be pretentious. It's just that when you get to the point of criticizing someone for having different tastes and start establishing things as law, you've gone too far. I still like many people on this forum that are like that. It isn't enough to hold a grudge against them for. Like I said, I'm guilty at times, too. It's just childish and ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Diesel

ah the ol' re-naming of the porn files trick for when your ma wants to use the computer

i don't know why anyone would put porn in their shared folder, especially if the content is of a questionable nature.

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Originally Posted by truncated

Well, if I've got the balls to rant, I suppose I have to have them to name names, eh?

*Prepares to hang herself*

I get this vibe from:

Atari
!@#$%!
chabib

Now there's forum suicide if I've ever seen it!

i agree with two of those, the other one doesn't count because he's just the I.T. bloke.

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Originally Posted by truncated

I'm not sure if my porn is in my shared folder. I have also deleted porn that could potentially have gotten me arrested (i.e. Catholic schoolgirl/priest). I have also renamed some porn in order to disguise it as a more innocent file. So, if you find a file named "4," amongst others more accurately named, that's a winner.

Enjoy.

when you first posted that i assumed it was just regular porn with the actors dressed up in costumes, but now i'm starting to wonder if you're researching for the book you are writing. pete.

Of all the days to be missing, this thread had to pop up today!
Dammit.

were you disappointed to be overlooked on the list of pretentious intellectuals?

As much as you were, I'm sure.

yeah, i'm studying fine art at the most pretentious art college in the whole world, god knows how i was overlooked.

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i'm a-comin' truncy!!!

Oh wait, I have glasses. I must be an intellectual.

I actually left that part out and had you pegged as a Pretentious Fucker.

probably. who knows.

is there some sort of anti intellectualism going on here

keep in mind that this thread was a result of me correcting a grammatical error in one of his posts.

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Originally Posted by truncated

Just a random rant. People who quiver in fear at the thought of liking music/art/films that isn't obscure or critically lauded. People who will admit to such things, but only with the disclaimer of them being 'guilty pleasures.' People who wear their artistic taste on their sleeves as some kind of badge of identification. People who will slam Ben Folds Five and in the same breath endorse Be Your Own Pet because the latter is on Infinity Cat and not yet plastered on the radio. People who casually drop their latest film noir viewings and translated novel readings into conversation, for no other reason (despite what they say) than to advertise that they, unlike you, are culturally rounded and capable of complex thought. People who line up like lemmings to watching foreign films at their local independent theater because, well, it's an indie film - by default, it's better than anything out at the multiplex! People who tolerated Drawing Restraint 9 because they lick Bjork's whiny Nordic asshole, but won't acknowledge that Aliens is one of the best films ever made.

One of the most blatant examples of this, in my cuntish opinion, is the "What are you listening to?" thread.

I would cut off my left tit if there were some way to prove that the majority of people post on that thread for any reason other than to self-importantly crow, "Look! Look what I'M listening to! It's a B-side! I bet YOU'VE never heard it! Did you know I was that obscure? Did you know I was into such hardcore experimentalism? Well, I am. And I bet you're not. I bet YOU don't own this album. Am I avant-garde? Am I? Am I?" Why else are you posting on that thread? Do you really give a good goddamn what I'm listening to? Of course not, you're listening to your own music. Do people typically respond to other people's posts on that thread? Of course not, because they're barely even reading them; they are far too concerned with posting their own brand of advertising.

People who don't realize that Sebastian Bach will own someone like Kathleen Hanna any day of the week because he loves, truly LOVES music, lives for the pure simplistic joy of rock and roll, and isn't using it as a vehicle for a political agenda, an image stamp, a competitive artistic edge, a personality billboard.

The name-droppers, media-haters, trendophobes, rabble-rousers, corporate-bashing, extreme-left, if-more-than-15-people-have-heard-of-that-band-I-can't-buy-their-album music connossieurs -

Contrary to what you must convince yourselves of on a daily basis in order to keep your fragile egos intact, it is YOU folks who are the woefully ignorant, not those supposed intellectual inferiors you turn your noses down at. So don your pricetags, kids, for you are the true sell-outs.

The one thing that's infinitely worse than what you describe is the person that takes delight in describing such people and explaining why they're contemptible. I assume it brings people like this some sort of satisfaction to their empty lives.

i am pretty sure debbie does dallas isn't obscure, and that movie is fine by me any old day of the week.

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

he? who is HE?

you.

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

you.

I own a vagina, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Gookid

yes it all gets trapped in a paradox. and also becomes a righteous judgement against others. very interesting nonetheless, and well written.

The point of this thread? Smoke more.

lol, stop being so damn cantankerous

I am an intellectual because I know what the word "cantankerous" means.
I am an intellectual because I appreciate true cinema and theater: "Debbie Does Dallas" and "Jesus Christ Superstar"

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

I own a vagina, thanks.

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the use of "he" can be used to address boy or girl if the gender of the one who is being addressed is not known or is to a group. "her" however is not used. nowadays you have to use "his or her" or you will get a earful from a feminist.

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

I am pretty sure everyone has seen enough of my face to figure out that I'm not a he.

this thread is odd, are people who have been educated meant to feel guilty about that fact for some reason

And you know what that means?
Smoke more.

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

Here in canada it's vice versa. We address things as "her" if they're unknown

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Originally Posted by Gookid

Well-written indeed, but entirely moronic.
Pretentious Intellectual Fuckers are a pain in the ass. A valid complaint. Agree or disagree, but I don't see how that makes me more contemptible than them.

And if it does, fuck 'em.

can,
i havent. and you become very insecure when someone corrects you. that means you want to appear as intelligent as possible, meaning you yourself are having doubts on wheither you are an intellectual or not.

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

keep in mind that this thread was a result of me correcting a grammatical error in one of his posts.

Eh?

Actually, and I'm not making this up, "he" is apparently politically incorrect. The prefered pronoun is "they." I don't know who decided that, but he needs to get over it.