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Norma J 08.05.2006 08:47 PM

Ahh, I'm glad I'm over my "It's cool to be a degenerate outcast" day's.

Daycare Nation 08.05.2006 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
The reason why no one has named the nerd is that it should be obvious. Here's a clue: he's a pirate thief.


Oh, okay. Now that you mention that it should be obvious, that clears things up.

alyasa 08.05.2006 08:58 PM

Congratulations! If I were you, I would have spit on those pro-lifers. Not implying I'm political in any way of course...

atari 2600 08.06.2006 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
Oh, okay. Now that you mention that it should be obvious, that clears things up.


You're such a dumbass.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.06.2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
How exciting.

I'm not even sure if it's on my 'record' or not.

That's gonna suck for future job opportunities.



Me and my uncle went ridin' down,
South Colorado, West Texas bound.
We stopped over in Santa Fe,
That bein' the point just about half way,
And you know it was the hottest part of the day.

I took the horses up to the stall,
Went to the barroom, ordered drinks for all.
Three days in the saddle, you know my body hurt,
It bein' summer, I took off my shirt,
And I tried to wash off some of that dusty dirt.

When Texas cowboys, they's all around,
With liquor and money, they loaded down.
So soon after payday, know it seemed a shame;
You know my uncle, he starts a friendly game,
High-low jack and the winner take the hand.

My uncle starts winnin'; cowboys got sore.
One of them called him, and then two more,
Accused him of cheatin'; Oh no, it couldn't be.
I know my uncle, he's as honest as me,
And I'm as honest as a Denver man can be.

One of them cowboys, he starts to draw,
And I shot him down, Lord he never saw.
Well I grabbed a bottle, cracked him in the jaw,
Shot me another, oh damn he won't grow old.
In the confusion, my uncle grabbed the gold,
And we high-tailed it down to Mexico.

I love those cowboys, I love their gold,
I loved my uncle, God rest his soul,
Taught me good, Lord, Taught me all I know
Taught me so well, I grabbed that gold
And I left his dead ass there by the side of the road.

 

Daddylikes 08.06.2006 01:26 AM

hahahaha fuck.

Such Friends Are Dangerous strikes gold again.

Hit that bong for me bro.

porkmarras 08.06.2006 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
Ha!

(I like his sweater though, he should've left off the shirt beneath it.)

I won't go into the whole tale, because it will piss me off to no end, and bring up a topic of debate on this forum that probably should not be addressed.

I was out shopping today, and there was this massive pro-life demonstration going on outside. A few of them tried preaching their business to me, in a less-than-diplomatic manner. I'll simply say this:

1. I hate pro-lifers. Yes, hate them. I don't 'dislike' them, I don't merely hate their beliefs - I hate them, as people. If it were my choice, I would collect pro-lifers across the globe and exterminate them.

2. I hate religious fundamentalists. They are ignorant, pig-headed, weak, mindless, hypocritical fuckbags. Said fundamentalists are usually pro-lifers as well. If they're not, well, kill them too.

3. I hate people shoving their dogmas in my face. My belief system is not up for negotiation. You will not enlighten me with pamphlets, slogan-chanting, threats of hellfire, or gruesome photos. I find NOTHING more insulting and invasive than someone trying to push their credo on me. It's an intellectual rape, and I won't stand for it.

Needless to say, I was rather upset that these people approached me with their tripe. I politely asked them to leave me alone. That did not suffice. I told them I had no interest in what they were saying. That did not suffice either. I told them to try me again after they'd each adopted a few abandoned crack babies, and expressed my concern over their masturbation habits, as surely, wasted sperm is an abortion of sorts.

There was some shouting. I didn't go ballistic and hit anyone; that ain't my style. But the police did break up the altercation, and we got carted away.

Total waste of my day, and I was supposed to get a goddamn haircut.

Wow that sounds like a hell of a journey to the hairdresser trunc!Surely you just went on file but nothing else will be done about it?

Cantankerous 08.06.2006 06:42 AM

i assume the charge will be disorderly conduct. i have previously been arrested in a similar situation, however because i am a minor and it wasn't anything too serious they dropped the charge.

truncated 08.06.2006 10:46 AM

Right, to clarify:

This was not an 'exciting' event. I think arrests were made for the sake of public appearance; it wasn't an exceptionally violent altercation.

I was not formally charged, but I am not sure if that was because a. the arrests were for procedure's sake or b. (this sounds tacky) I work with the police, and yes, I took advantage of this and made the appropriate phone calls to get my ass out of trouble. However, I don't think any of the pious pricks were charged, either.

Irrelevant information: You're allowed to protest/demonstrate on public property here as long as you don't disrupt what is considered to be ordinary traffic. i.e., you can picket retail establishments as long as you don't significantly block store entrances or prevent customers from entering in some other manner.

So I suspect the police got involved only because it was near a shopping center, and to observe municipal law, they were sort of obligated to break it up and create the appearance of keeping peace.

ANYHOW

The arrest isn't the point, and nor is the issue of abortion, technically. Under other circumstances, I wouldn't have gotten involved in any way, because my stance on such an issue isn't really any of these people's business. I'm certainly not going to change their minds, so I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of baiting me.

What DOES vex me, however, is the underlying idea of people who IMPOSE upon you. No matter how personally objectionable I may find an idea, I ordinarily do not take issue with other who may hold it - whether you're a Christian fundamentalist, extreme leftist, hell, if you're into bestiality - as long as you KEEP IT CONFINED TO YOURSELF. Once you enter my sphere, that's an unforgivable violation of boundaries.

I simply cannot understand people who do not respect individual opinion. You have NO RIGHT to hold my behaviors to YOUR moral standards. You have NO RIGHT to APPROACH me, attempting to sell your ideology. You have NO RIGHT to DISRUPT MY DAY in an attempt to further YOUR personal agenda.

I abhor pro-lifers with every fiber of my being, but I, unlike them, am content to let each of us hold our respective opinions. They are not, and therein lies the difference.

My long-winded rant is not confined to this particular group of people, but to that general mentality that causes people to try to convert you to their 'side.' The people who attempt to pressure you into various social activities. The people who act with complete disregard for those around them, because they ASSUME that their standards are the only ones by which others should abide.

I'm pissed off because I didn't get a haircut, all because some self-important assholes decided that their opinion was worthy of being broadcast to the masses. I generally abide by "Live and let live," and still maintain that those who do not should be collectively shot.

Savage Clone 08.06.2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
I generally abide by "Live and let live," and still maintain that those who do not should be collectively shot.



Best quote ever.

against_the_grain 08.06.2006 11:12 AM

I totally agree with truncated.

Those folks with God on 'their side'...are compelled to witness to others...it's mandated in their doctrinal directive !!!

They can't allow a live and let live philosophy...they feel personally responsible about saving as many souls as they can....they're warriors in their battle for rightwinged morality......can't stop till ya win !!!!!

 

Trasher02 08.06.2006 11:37 AM

Aaaaaah
Great job truncated, really that's fucking fantastic!

Cantankerous 08.06.2006 12:09 PM

you shouldn't have been arrested in the first place.

 

Hip Priest 08.06.2006 12:12 PM

There are too many people whose aim is to prevent you forming and maintaining your own opinion; there was a brief incident involving myself and a couple of Greenpeace representatives recently, although the security present were pretty decent, and happy for different opinions to meet. The Greenpeace people just felt that disagreeing with or questioning any part of their dogma was an affront to humanity though.

Anyway, fuck these people; society's going to shit and it's largely because hateful bigots get their own way too often.

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2006 02:13 PM

society has been going to shit ever since it began....

what kind of haircut are you going to get?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.06.2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
Right, to clarify:

This was not an 'exciting' event. I think arrests were made for the sake of public appearance; it wasn't an exceptionally violent altercation.

I was not formally charged, but I am not sure if that was because a. the arrests were for procedure's sake or b. (this sounds tacky) I work with the police, and yes, I took advantage of this and made the appropriate phone calls to get my ass out of trouble. However, I don't think any of the pious pricks were charged, either.

Irrelevant information: You're allowed to protest/demonstrate on public property here as long as you don't disrupt what is considered to be ordinary traffic. i.e., you can picket retail establishments as long as you don't significantly block store entrances or prevent customers from entering in some other manner.

So I suspect the police got involved only because it was near a shopping center, and to observe municipal law, they were sort of obligated to break it up and create the appearance of keeping peace.

ANYHOW

The arrest isn't the point, and nor is the issue of abortion, technically. Under other circumstances, I wouldn't have gotten involved in any way, because my stance on such an issue isn't really any of these people's business. I'm certainly not going to change their minds, so I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of baiting me.

What DOES vex me, however, is the underlying idea of people who IMPOSE upon you. No matter how personally objectionable I may find an idea, I ordinarily do not take issue with other who may hold it - whether you're a Christian fundamentalist, extreme leftist, hell, if you're into bestiality - as long as you KEEP IT CONFINED TO YOURSELF. Once you enter my sphere, that's an unforgivable violation of boundaries.

I simply cannot understand people who do not respect individual opinion. You have NO RIGHT to hold my behaviors to YOUR moral standards. You have NO RIGHT to APPROACH me, attempting to sell your ideology. You have NO RIGHT to DISRUPT MY DAY in an attempt to further YOUR personal agenda.

I abhor pro-lifers with every fiber of my being, but I, unlike them, am content to let each of us hold our respective opinions. They are not, and therein lies the difference.

My long-winded rant is not confined to this particular group of people, but to that general mentality that causes people to try to convert you to their 'side.' The people who attempt to pressure you into various social activities. The people who act with complete disregard for those around them, because they ASSUME that their standards are the only ones by which others should abide.

I'm pissed off because I didn't get a haircut, all because some self-important assholes decided that their opinion was worthy of being broadcast to the masses. I generally abide by "Live and let live," and still maintain that those who do not should be collectively shot.


dude, you are being as self important an asshole as anybody for having dragged out this ridiculous thread for so long. I tried to make a complete mockery of it to kill it, in a grand ol west shoot out, but alas, it is back! Self Importance is equally destructive on both sides of an opinion. THe Less Important you see yourself as being, the more important you actually become to the harmony and benefit of the Universe in general....

Cantankerous 08.06.2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
dude, you are being as self important an asshole as anybody for having dragged out this ridiculous thread for so long. I tried to make a complete mockery of it to kill it, in a grand ol west shoot out, but alas, it is back! Self Importance is equally destructive on both sides of an opinion. THe Less Important you see yourself as being, the more important you actually become to the harmony and benefit of the Universe in general....


suck it, hippie.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.06.2006 02:35 PM

I recently had a near miss confontation at the grocery store with a Church lady. My friend and I were minding our own business, looking at canned peppers, when this red wigged woman, with freckles walks past us, turns back around, and tells my friends that Jesus is her friend, and that she needs 'get rid of those tatoos, take that eye brow ring out, and turn from Satan.' I said something back to her about her wig, and she just walked away.

She was bugging people in the parking lot when we were leaving. Creep.

acousticrock87 08.06.2006 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
dude, you are being as self important an asshole as anybody for having dragged out this ridiculous thread for so long. I tried to make a complete mockery of it to kill it, in a grand ol west shoot out, but alas, it is back! Self Importance is equally destructive on both sides of an opinion. THe Less Important you see yourself as being, the more important you actually become to the harmony and benefit of the Universe in general....

That's like saying you should just ignore the problems you have with your boyfriend/girlfriend because it's 'selfish' to address your own intrests. Sounds great when you say it, but just see if you don't both end up miserable. It's a dangerously faulty idea.

Cantankerous 08.06.2006 02:39 PM

i say take your preconcieved notions about other people and shove them up your fucking righteous ass.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.06.2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
That's like saying you should just ignore the problems you have with your boyfriend/girlfriend because it's 'selfish' to address your own intrests. Sounds great when you say it, but just see if you don't both end up miserable. It's a dangerously faulty idea.


no, this is a completely different issue, and yes, it is by the nature of the word, selfish to address any of your own interests.

truncated 08.06.2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hip Priest
There are too many people whose aim is to prevent you forming and maintaining your own opinion; there was a brief incident involving myself and a couple of Greenpeace representatives recently, although the security present were pretty decent, and happy for different opinions to meet. The Greenpeace people just felt that disagreeing with or questioning any part of their dogma was an affront to humanity though.

Anyway, fuck these people; society's going to shit and it's largely because hateful bigots get their own way too often.

Somehow I can't see you getting into an argument with ANYONE. You are one of the most diplomatic and level-headed people I have ever encountered. Even when you're discussing an issue you feel strongly about, you are calm and articulate. Extremely admirable quality.

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
society has been going to shit ever since it began....

what kind of haircut are you going to get?

I'm going to go bald, to resemble a fetus.

porkmarras 08.06.2006 03:02 PM

Get a clipper machine.It saves you from getting into trouble.

truncated 08.06.2006 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
dude, you are being as self important an asshole as anybody for having dragged out this ridiculous thread for so long. I tried to make a complete mockery of it to kill it, in a grand ol west shoot out, but alas, it is back! Self Importance is equally destructive on both sides of an opinion. THe Less Important you see yourself as being, the more important you actually become to the harmony and benefit of the Universe in general....

Since I'm on this kick anyhow -

I can't identify with Rastas, either. Grow some dreads, smoke some dope, pray to Jah every night you'll wake up less white, and you think you and your magic bong are going to unite the world's people in spiritual harmony.

I'm happy for you.

I have no objection to self-importance. When it comes to opinion, self-importance is integral. MY opinion affects MY behavior. I'm the most important fucking person in the world, in that respect. When such divisive issues like abortion and religion exist in society, there is no universal harmony, Scooter.

However, on the other hand, I personally think my credo is more conducive to harmony than most. While I choose to uphold and abide by my own personal standards of morality and behavior, I make a point of not imposing those upon other people. Despite being a misanthrope (or perhaps because of?), I can live in perfect harmony with others, as long as they mind their own goddamned business as well.

The construction of a prinicipled utopia begins at the core. If you don't have a solid personal foundation, if you have nothing you personally stand for, then your efforts in any other direction will be wasted. What you see as tolerance, promotion of harmony, and open-mindedness, I see as spinelessness, ignorance, and/or indifference. If you can't take a stance, you will forever tread on infirm ground.

truncated 08.06.2006 03:11 PM

 

porkmarras 08.06.2006 03:13 PM

And you should shave it while driving.Imagine the innnovative styles you'd come up with.

Cantankerous 08.06.2006 03:15 PM

don't be a pussy.

 

truncated 08.06.2006 03:17 PM

I've got one of those already for my 'tache.

Alex's Trip 08.06.2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by truncated
What DOES vex me, however, is the underlying idea of people who IMPOSE upon you. No matter how personally objectionable I may find an idea, I ordinarily do not take issue with other who may hold it - whether you're a Christian fundamentalist, extreme leftist, hell, if you're into bestiality - as long as you KEEP IT CONFINED TO YOURSELF. Once you enter my sphere, that's an unforgivable violation of boundaries.

I simply cannot understand people who do not respect individual opinion. You have NO RIGHT to hold my behaviors to YOUR moral standards. You have NO RIGHT to APPROACH me, attempting to sell your ideology. You have NO RIGHT to DISRUPT MY DAY in an attempt to further YOUR personal agenda.

If they had left you alone the moment you asked them to would you still think that they were really trying to impose their opinions on you,or that they had "NO RIGHT to APPROACH me, attempting to sell your ideology.". Personally I have no problem with people who are out there trying to do whatever it is they are trying to do as long as they respect my opinions and wishes.

truncated 08.06.2006 03:18 PM

If they'd left me alone when asked, everything would have been just ducky.

!@#$%! 08.06.2006 03:46 PM

congrats & welcome to a life of crime.

you might want to add an obstacle course to your daily running routine--i n the past, i have found it convenient to escape police pursuit by cutting across busy avenues without regard for the speed or amount of oncoming traffic.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.06.2006 03:49 PM

And how many times have you got away? What is the ratio?

!@#$%! 08.06.2006 03:53 PM

i don't know but in my case i was fearing deportation-- when you have a good reason you can bolt like a fucking racehorse. the cops were not armed though-- undercover busting "ilegal immigrants-- i even asked one of them if he had a job, ha ha. oh the joy.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.06.2006 03:58 PM

Oh. Where do you hail from?

I had no idea...

!@#$%! 08.06.2006 04:10 PM

that happened in israel actually-- i was working without a permit and went to a "meat market" where construction workers go. it's like being a whore-- they check out your muscles, ha ha, and pick you up-- anyway these cops were duping people into believing they were hiring and i asked one if he had a job; he asked for my pasport (unusual) & i jumped back he lunged to grab me i ran like a motherfucker. ha ha. priceless moment.

the next day on the news there were like 250 people deported. phew!!!

--

here im applying for a green card & have a work permit-- no more construction jobs, but the paperwork is a bitch.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.06.2006 04:14 PM

Sounds like a horrific experience.

!@#$%! 08.06.2006 04:18 PM

well yes it was scary after the fact; because an old man (not the cops) chased me down the beach screaming "passport! passport" & i was running on the sand-- i finally hid among some backpackers (the kind that sleep on the beach), changed my clothes (i had clean clothes on my pack for after the work) and lost myself in the crowd. when i got home i was fucking paranoid! but i swear, the story has paid off in multiple laughs-- outrunning the cops is a fucking great feeling.

agh, i gotta go now, so i can't continue this funny exchange, but yes man, adventure is not always what's cracked up to be-- fucking scary shit. but then, the laughs, etc.

so i have to leave but this poem summarizes it pretty much all, ha ha--

http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~dzaharo2/curiosity.html

krastian 08.06.2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by truncated
 

Now we're getting somewhere.

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2006 05:27 PM

like this?

 

Daddylikes 08.06.2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
suck it, hippie.


I want to suck it too, please.


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