I would.

EDITL Avril Lavign....not what Nefeli said...

really?

my favorite message board posts have always been posts, like this one, where people take the time to post about the postings of other posters who post.

quality stuff, lil' lady. quality stuff!

also, what kind of wünderkind looks around this board and wonders to themselves "there seems to be too many posts here".

hipsters, that's who. motherfucking hipsters.

hey thats pretty fucking funny...

Beautiful.

My view of it is that 'accusing' someone of the term 'hipster' is just labelling people and boiling them down to a set of preconceived factors. It's dumb stereotyping.

But the stereotyping exists. It happens, so why not discuss it?
Then again, why discuss it? Because I was bored, it was midmorning on a slow Monday. I actually don't give a shit one way or another.

Oh you know, it's an internet thing. DJ Rick put it better on this same forum, with no offence to Glice, obviously, when he said that perceiving someone as being a hipsters just because of the way they're dressed is a form of insecurity. Of course there are elements of what Glice said above which can be annoying, but you know, it's not so bad in hipsterland like they tell you. Besides, Vice magazine puts on some free gigs by bands that won't hurt you so bad when you attend them. They did a feauture about Doc Corbin of Crucifucks too. It's not all that bad. Let's move on from this crap.

Discussion of 'hipsters' tends to be full of diatribe like "I HATE HIPSTERS!!!" and "What's up with their moustaches?"

I hate black people, what's up with them eating fried chicken?

It really is not an important thing whichever way you look at it.

Yo, I'm just trying to make the world a more positive place.

Sure, and I am agreeing with you.

is it still ok to hate hippies????

Really? I've been called a hipster since I was a freshman in college. Among other things. But never in an insulting way.

"Scenester" was the offensive one. I hated being called that.

This is more like what I was getting at.

Like, kind of a "why can't we all just get along?" thing. Hipsters and hippies.

Phish is ok by me.

But yeah widespread panic is terrible. I've had the misfortune of attending a number of their shows, just to glimpse the better bands they were touring with.

lesbians...what's up with their moustaches???

Lesbians are treated much, much worse than hipsters in London. And any transgender people too.

A lot of transgender people are, at the best of times, treated like drag queens or woman-like beings. Which is not all there is to transgenders. It is a genetically more sensitive area than just swapping traditional sexes.

for the record, I don't know any lesbians with moustaches but as derek so crudely pointed out, I do know black people that eat fried chicken.

hipsters? no idea. I don't associate with that crowd. at all. ironic cunts.

I want some fuckin fried chicken motha fucke

If you need to ask the question, you should probably check your cupboards for tofu-flavoured self-righteousness.

A mate of mine accused me recently of having a 'narrow-minded view' of hippies (with an IRL srsly tone) because I pointed out the simple fact that every hippy secretly rub themselves in Nazi paraphernalia in failed attempts to stimulate their stinking genitalia.

I believe that this is called the Freya Asywynn Disease.

I can't hear you over the scent of the patchouli incense that I have burning.

namaste, motherfuckers.

Yeah, well like I dunno, I kinda like their older stuff better, but ya'know, no worries or whatever....

It's been a slow week for us all I guess to debate this in now two different sub-forums....

It's kinda funny. This thread, though denouncing the act of social labeling, is actually kind of creating a new social label.... "people who think hipsters exist/ talk about hipsters/ say "hipster".

The fact that you're sensitive enough about the label is proof enough that it exists. Christ, you're like Martin Lither King telling off a KKK member! So obviously you've been called a hipster yourself, probably many times, and probably even fancied the label for a while. Did I strike a nerve? 'Cause really- I didn't say anything negative about anyone or anything, yet it pissed you off so much that you wrote an italicized paragraph about it.

Heh.

No, you fuckwit. No. It doesn't work like that.

If you want to talk about nomenklatura, we can do; if you you want to make petty semantic points, go ahead (oh, you have. Well done). Labels exist and are meaningful; I'm saying that the label hipster is exclusively negative and phantasmic, based on some ill-defined notion of cohesion of 'other' (small 'o'). That 'other' is always reductive, based on an assumed cohesion and language community of idiocy, which may never be verified or agreed upon. It's basically 'these are some other people who are wrong [for spurious/ non-existent reasons]'. I'm not saying any notion of intellectual/ semantic cohesion of 'other' is automatically wrong - I'm saying that hipster specifically appertains in definition to idiosyncratic (but not sociolectical) anxieties of 'how other people think/ feel/ understand/ experience'. There are no hipsters, only people saying that 'someone else' is a hipster.

If I was being hysterical/ polemic I could probably say that it's structurally analogous to notions of 'other' related to racism; the problem is that different cultures appertained by 'other-isms' in that do actually exist, just not in the negative space (and this is faintly related to the epistemic status[es] of diachronic approaches to language which we (yes, we) voided nearly a century ago). Ergo, hipster is spurious notions returning to personal social anxieties, and racism remains bad for different reasons.

Though a caveat - I'm not part of a North American language community, so I might be wrong (but I severely doubt I am).

I don't know about the US but hipster where I am is not really an insult and people are not afraid to say "i'm a hipster lol". it isn't uncommon to see the media use the word hipsters to refer to an entire generation. i know it's not the same there and probably not in the us either.

That seems far more benign and passable. Makes sense even. Because I think it's an important/ inevitable thing that the younger generation will fail to make sense to the older one. If 'hipster' designated nothing more than 'something many in the older generation don't get/ consider degenerate [note: -genera- morpheme]' that's fine - and has clear links back to hepcat [etc] (its etymological forbear, from what I can gather). It's this use where it designates people who are somehow deficient in appreciation of stuff that really isn't important. It's all a bit grotesque.

What does a ruling class look like? I bet they ride fixies and have NHS specs.

Sous la paves, plus l'imbecile.

I'm very anguished on a number of matter.

Luckily, you'll have my memoires in the fall of 2012 to catch up on all the things that have hacked me off, 1982-present - coming to a bookstore near you!

sometimes I feel bad for people that argue with glice.

it's not that he's always right; it's simply his uncanny ability to make you think he MIGHT be, and let's face it, when it comes to the internet, that's all that really matters.

the art of prickistry: refined.

SOme find it insulting, some label themselves as hipsters. But holy cow are they annoying people. The worst are scenesters....LOLOLOLOLOLThe saddest part is that I actually know someone who labels himself as a scenester. Though..the kid is a fucktard. Cocky fuck. I think my hate for these people could have stemmed from this one idiot.

racist.

LATFH

I don't label myself as anything other than bitch.