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krastian 12.05.2006 12:52 AM

^Great album.

Cantankerous 12.05.2006 12:59 AM

i don't like them books. they is hard to read.

gmku 12.05.2006 01:01 AM

Berlin Stories by Christopher Isherwood

John Perry's Classic Rock book about Exile on Main St.

Cantankerous 12.05.2006 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i don't like them books. they is hard to read.

in actuality i would recommend that you read Caligula and don't even pay attention to any of that faulkner shit.

Richard Pryor on Fire 12.05.2006 01:12 AM

Pattern Recognition is a good book for anybody, but being an SY fan helps, Neuromancer is real good too, to tell the truth I've never heard a bad wyrd spoken about a Gibson book. I really like Matt Ruff too, I've been rereading the Dune books trying to keep my self sharp. All other books are crap.

gmku 12.05.2006 01:12 AM

Faulkner's damned depressing.

Cantankerous 12.05.2006 01:14 AM

i don't care for it personally. i give credit where credit is due.

gmku 12.05.2006 01:17 AM

Same.

I can't read the classic modern American authors anymore. I studied them too much in college, and now I can't enjoy them.

I'm a big fan of Nabokov. Besides the obvious choice of the fantastic Lolita (read the annotated version), I can highly recommend Speak, Memory. The best autobiography I've ever read.

Cantankerous 12.05.2006 01:19 AM

you know who i like? i like noam chomsky.

krastian 12.05.2006 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku

I can't read the classic modern American authors anymore. I studied them too much in college, and now I can't enjoy them.

Same with me....actually all the reading and writing I did in college has kind of killed my love for reading all together. I was always a bookworm before that.

gmku 12.05.2006 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by krastian
Same with me....actually all the reading and writing I did in college has kind of killed my love for reading all together. I was always a bookworm before that.


I hear ya. I have to really get hooked on somebody, like Nabokov, to make a real commitment to an author or a book. Other than Nabokov, most of my reading is on the light side.

Cantankerous 12.05.2006 01:35 AM

i'm not much of a reader. i really prefer listening to records.

jon boy 12.05.2006 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Berlin Stories by Christopher Isherwood

John Perry's Classic Rock book about Exile on Main St.


alexanderplatz is another good book set in berlin that i really want to read. recently i made my way through some michel houellebecq. i read atomised before but had never read any of his short stories which i liked quite a lot.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 03:19 AM

i was told to check out "My Uncle Oswald"

anyone read it?
good?

cuetzpalin 12.05.2006 03:41 AM

timothy leary -- chaos and cyberculture
carlos castaneda

currently reading the 120 days of Sodom save me please!

h8kurdt 12.05.2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cuetzpalin

currently reading the 120 days of Sodom save me please!


Is it turning you on or repulsing you?

LittlePuppetBoy 12.05.2006 01:17 PM

Galapagos-Kurt Vonnegut
Childhood's End-Arthur C Clarke

Tokolosh 12.05.2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
recently i made my way through some michel houellebecq. i read atomised before but had never read any of his short stories which i liked quite a lot.


I really enjoyed The Possibility of an Island. Gonna read Atomised next.

Rob Instigator 12.05.2006 01:58 PM

One of my favorite books of the past few years is

HOUSE OF LEAVES by Mark Danielewski


 


it is on of the few books recently that has completely altered my perception while I read it. It freaked me out, and affected me in many many ways, al strange and disturbing.
it is written in an experimental manner and I just love it.

check it out!

A Review of House of Leaves

House of Leaves is a multilayered intersection of wild ideas, ten years in the making, from Mark Danielewski. It is also the story of a seemingly normal house gone wild. The novel intertwines the narratives of two haunted individuals: Zampano, a blind man whose strange manuscript is found in his apartment when he dies, and Johnny Truant, the tome's discoverer and narrator of House of Leaves.

Zampano's manuscript is a critique of a documentary film called "The Navidson Record," by Pulitzer Prize-winning filmmaker Will Navidson. The filmmaker had just moved his family into a house on Ash Tree Lane and hadn't even had the chance to unpack before the strangeness began. Navidson discovered what at first seemed like an odd prank perpetrated by a psychotic carpenter: Behind a closet door, a hallway with smooth black walls had suddenly appeared. This prompted Navidson, ever the pragmatist, to do some measurements. He learned that the inside of the house was larger than the outside. And the hallway did not just remain a hallway-it was growing rapidly, and there was a deep growl emanating from the darkness that was unlike anything he'd ever heard. Partly out of habit, but also sensing that nobody would ever believe his story, Navidson captured everything on film.

Realizing that he was out of his league, Navidson assembled a team of professional hunters and explorers, four fearless men who could navigate any terrain and deal with any physical hardship. Armed with the best high-tech equipment, cameras, and plenty of supplies, they ventured into the dreamlike interior of the house. The discovered that the house was mutating, spawning a web of incredibly complex, pitch-black passageways and cavernous spaces. Dimension and space shifted constantly, becoming fluid and dangerous. The house humbled the team, rendered their equipment useless, and turned them against each other.

Danielewski's descriptions of the explorations of the interior are amazing (think Into Thin Air in a surreal dreamscape). As the house mutates, so does Zampano's manuscript; the text takes on a life of its own, and the layout responds. The film critique is heavily and amazingly footnoted in a way that blurs the line between artifice and reality. The house is completely baffling, Johnny is sliding into madness, and there is something evil that haunted Zampano and the house on Ash Tree Lane and now stalks Johnny. His transformation is also extraordinary: He goes from being an apathetic, hedonistic, eviction-dodging tattoo shop apprentice to a physically wasted, haunted shadow of his former self.

House of Leaves is an incredible blend of mystery, madness, and terror that makes the reader uncomfortable in an entirely new and fascinating way. The novel asks an important question: What are we afraid of? It goes after the deeper origins of fear and stays with us-in our thoughts and dreams-long after we've turned the last page.

-Sophie Cottrell


Bleak House

Can a book be a labyrinth? Or, to follow the premise of Mark Z. Danielewski's genre-bending debut, can a book about a book about a film be anything else? House of Leaves is both vast and claustrophobic, crammed with minutiae (footnotes, appendices, poems and letters, and layout trickery) yet cored by a deep, absorbing emptiness, a deliberate void that accommodates, even incorporates, each character's-perhaps even each reader's-expectations, quirks, and fears.

At the novel's heart is "The Navidson Record," a documentary collage made by Will Navidson, prizewinning photographer, of his attempts to explore the impossible. A bizarre hallway-dark, cold, and haunted by a menacing growl-has suddenly appeared in his new home, and within its darkness lies an ominous architecture that mutates, viruslike, with every trip inside, offering a deadly threat to Navidson's wife, Karen, and their young children; to his brother Tom, whose loyalty Navidson abuses; to his friends who become involved in the quest; and finally and most directly, to himself. For Navidson cannot stop his explorations; he can't stop wanting to see.

House of Leaves is also the "book," painstakingly compiled by a strange old man named Zampanò, acquired after his death by Johnny Truant, an apathetic slacker mired in drugs and sad sex. Johnny's obsessive immersion in the manuscript echoes the black-hole threat of the hallway to Navidson; both are caught then consumed by the need to go deeper than safety, or sanity, can support; both will risk their lives in pursuit of the secret of the hallway, and both will be damaged by the experience in ways they cannot anticipate or escape.

Comparisons with The Blair Witch Project will occur to some; others will be reminded of Thomas Pynchon or David Foster Wallace. But Danielewski has done something different: He has remade the haunted house story into a metaphor for dread itself: its smothering darkness, its infinite expansion, the way it takes hold within us, where we think we are most at home. He makes palpable the animal weight of the unknown, terrifying in its formlessness, defined by its ability to morph; he uses perception as a tool to mystify, the building blocks of text to make a structure without walls.

This is definitely not a novel for everyone; the casual reader will find his or her patience strained by the narrative shifts, the heavy footnoting, and the typographic landscape itself. But for readers willing to commit themselves to a skewed adventure, House of Leaves offers an experience of darkness, a walk into Nothing with a camera in our hands.

-Kathe Koja

Tokolosh 12.05.2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
HOUSE OF LEAVES by Mark Danielewski
 



That is one of my favorite books too. There are a few different versions of it, and one version has a cover that is smaller than the pages. It freaked me out, when he finds out that the house is bigger on the inside than the outside. Brilliant!

jon boy 12.05.2006 04:24 PM

hopefully i will be getting some for christmas but i can drop hints until i am blue in the face and never get what i want.

gmku 12.05.2006 04:33 PM

I'm not much of a reader. I really prefer listening to records.

static-harmony 12.05.2006 04:33 PM

House of Leaves sounds like a good book.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cuetzpalin
currently reading the 120 days of Sodom save me please!


love the movie, havent read the book yet

Savage Clone 12.05.2006 04:49 PM

I wish I could get the Criterion version of that movie, but it is super-expensive if you can even find it.
Oh well, at least I have that crappy 2nd generation VHS.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 04:56 PM

my friend works at a film shop and he hooked me up with a copy of it
i've got a huge criterion collection thanks to him

if you want, i could ask to see if he can find a copy?
i got mine for 20$
it was used, but in mint condition

Savage Clone 12.05.2006 04:57 PM

20 bucks?
A steal, I tell you.
Sure man, ask away.
No rush.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 04:59 PM

yeah, ive seen em go for 40 bucks used before
figured id pick it up

you into any of bergmans work?

Danny Himself 12.05.2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
nuther



 


I have read that book.

cuetzpalin 12.05.2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Is it turning you on or repulsing you?


it makes me sick:)

cuetzpalin 12.05.2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
love the movie, havent read the book yet


pier paolo pasolini--wonderful director!!

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 05:06 PM

yeah, sucks he was murdered

Savage Clone 12.05.2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
yeah, ive seen em go for 40 bucks used before
figured id pick it up

you into any of bergmans work?




When I'm in the mood, little else will do. That mood comes around a little less often these days, but there was a time when I watched quite a few of those films.

cuetzpalin 12.05.2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
yeah, ive seen em go for 40 bucks used before
figured id pick it up

you into any of bergmans work?


ingmar bergman is one of my top! the seventh seal, persona, fanny and alexander, the magician.. mmmm:p

cuetzpalin 12.05.2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
yeah, sucks he was murdered


but it's no surprise.. he was murdered by some christian fanatic, wasn't he?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 05:10 PM

wild strawberries

Savage Clone 12.05.2006 05:19 PM

7th Seal is a HUGE favorite of mine.
Holy fuck is that good.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.05.2006 05:24 PM

7th seal is on my top 10

Kallisti23chaos 12.05.2006 05:28 PM

"The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho

LifeDistortion 12.05.2006 06:18 PM

James Michener's "The Drifters" is simply one the greatest novels I've ever read. If you like epic reads I highly reccomend it.


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