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Rob Instigator 07.26.2018 07:52 AM

How the USA 2-Party political system works, in story form -
"Little town I grew up in had these two car dealerships on opposite sides of town, one Chevy, one Ford. They were bitter rivals. Attack ads, sh-t talking salesman, billboard wars, you name it. When the owner of the Chevy dealership died, it came out he'd also owned the Ford dealership by way of a shell company. No one saw that coming, including a lot of the higher ups who worked at the dealerships. "
Replace Ford and Chevy with Republican Party and Democratic Party. The billionaires are the ones fooling the rest of us into thinking we have a choice.

ilduclo 07.26.2018 08:53 AM

Sorry, that’s just so much horse manure

https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ss...m_diffe .html

!@#$%! 07.26.2018 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
How the USA 2-Party political system works, in story form -
"Little town I grew up in had these two car dealerships on opposite sides of town, one Chevy, one Ford. They were bitter rivals. Attack ads, sh-t talking salesman, billboard wars, you name it. When the owner of the Chevy dealership died, it came out he'd also owned the Ford dealership by way of a shell company. No one saw that coming, including a lot of the higher ups who worked at the dealerships. "
Replace Ford and Chevy with Republican Party and Democratic Party. The billionaires are the ones fooling the rest of us into thinking we have a choice.


therefore stay at home and don’t vote and therefore agent orange brings us the alpacalypse

come on man, that’s demasiada mota, unless you’re a maoist and want the contradictions of capitalism to implode so that you can take over—in which case i understand your logic but don’t agree with it.

Rob Instigator 07.26.2018 09:56 AM

NO. Therefore start a NEW party to compete wit the established ones. The trick is to not get absorbed into one of the two fake parties. That happened to the Tea Party, which has effectively become the GOP.




I do not speak of platforms and talk. They talk all they want. I speak of results. Under both Dems and Reps the same OLD SHIT keeps happening. Dems speak about education and social work, but instead pander to the billionaires. The Reps speak about job growth and crime-prevention, but instead pander to billionaires.


My complaint is not about platforms, but about the 2 party system. When corporations and billionaires are allowed to buy both sides, no one wins.

!@#$%! 07.26.2018 10:10 AM

the two party system is what we have and yes fringes get absorbed and negotiate from within. it’s a kind of consensus system because it’s a huge country and you cant rule it by fiat (but agent orange is trying)

anyway, please read this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...vements-213487

ilduclo 07.26.2018 12:02 PM

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• Support for Public Education, Head Start, School Lunch and Breakfast Programs
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• Veterans’ Benefits, GI Bill
• UN, NATO, Marshall Plan
• Vehicles Safety Requirements, Reduced Emissions, and Fuel Economy Standards (CAFE)
• TVA, Federal Loan Program, PBS, NPR, the Internet
• Economic Growth (Democratic Presidents: Roosevelt through Obama)


orrrr..............

"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Bytor Peltor 07.26.2018 08:41 PM

Pelosi Vomit to appear on Jeopardy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Peltor, I will send you $100US if Clinton announces she is running again, ok?

Will you send me anything if she doesn't?


I’ve searched over seven sport books looking for a Hillary Clinton Candidate prop and have found NADA! However, several sports books offer the following:

Vladimir Putin Visits Whitehouse In 2018

YES +200
NO -300

Skuj, I’ll accept your wager, but not your $100.

If Hillary announces, you must post a picture of yourself wearing an official Donald Trump - Make America Great Again cap.

If she doesn’t announce, I can make & send you a cassette mixtape......or anything else you can think of (within reason)

Skuj 07.26.2018 10:36 PM

LOL, sure.

Um.....when you read the Cohen/Giuliani headlines tonight, just remember......

There was No Collusion!!

!@#$%! 07.26.2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
LOL, sure.

Um.....when you read the Cohen/Giuliani headlines tonight, just remember......

There was No Collusion!!

No no nono no

He only made it 1/2 interesting. That is not a fair bet. He gets a kick out of sending mixtapes and would send you one tomorrpw if you just asked him.

If you must wear a maga hat (death by cringe) then he has to kiss a photo of pelosi and send the dnc a donation equal to the price of an official maga hat. And he must post proof of both on his twitter.

Oh yea. MAD or GTFO hahahaha

Skuj 07.26.2018 11:28 PM

LOL.

Well, there is no fucking way I will be wearing that hat, because Clinton will not run.

(And.....I had already made the $100 offer. Peltor didn't have to do anything except wait until Clinton ran. Which won't happen.)

This Cohen thing is veeeeerrry interesting. Why did he tape Trump? I mean, that really is a douche thing to do to your client, but Trump surrounds himself with douches, so it's not so shocking really. But what caused Cohen to do this?

I wonder if he has tapes that make Nixon's smoking gun look like child's play!!?

(You guys remember why Nixon resigned, right? Hasn't Trump already done much worse with all of his provable lies and attacks on Institutions/Investigations?)

Bytor Peltor 07.27.2018 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
If you must wear a maga hat (death by cringe) then he has to kiss a photo of pelosi and send the dnc a donation equal to the price of an official maga hat.


I would rather buy and wear a Vomit Pelosi shirt, but anything along these lines would be agreeable to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
This Cohen thing is veeeeerrry interesting. Why did he tape Trump? I mean, that really is a douche thing to do to your client, but Trump surrounds himself with douches, so it's not so shocking really. But what caused Cohen to do this?


To be clear, these sources said Cohen does not have evidence, such as audio recordings, to corroborate his claim, but he is willing to attest to his account.


Looks to me like Muller’s investigation is dwindling down to NOTHING.

NOTHING = Muller will be announcing to the American People that President Donald Trump is no longer a target of his investigation!

The Soup Nazi 07.27.2018 11:39 AM

 

ilduclo 07.27.2018 12:05 PM

NO COLLISION! NO COLLISION!!

 

Skuj 07.27.2018 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Looks to me like Muller’s investigation is dwindling down to NOTHING.



It's so strange how you and I can look at all the leaks/developments in this thing, and conclude totally opposite viewpoints.

The Soup Nazi 07.27.2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
It's so strange how you and I can look at all the leaks/developments in this thing, and conclude totally opposite viewpoints.


I completely disagree. Only if you're a FUCKING IDIOT WHO BELIEVES IN BULLSHIT, then, sure, you can conclude there's no collusion, no global warming, etc...

evollove 07.27.2018 01:36 PM

Collusion? Maybe. Maybe not.

Obstruction of justice? Hell fucking yes. Obviously.

!@#$%! 07.27.2018 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I would rather buy and wear a Vomit Pelosi shirt, but anything along these lines would be agreeable to me.


i don’t think there’s an “official vomit pelosi shirt”

purchase of an “official maga hat” makes a monetary contribution to the 666 in charge

whereas a “vomit pelosi shirt” (whatever that may be) benefits only the seller— some person on zazzle with an idea and some graphic skills. plus zazzle, of course. plus some salvadorean tshirt factory.

so, giving money to the dnc is the real equivalent to buying the sartorial monstrosity that’s the mark of the beast.

double bonus is: since hilary won’t run (she’d better not...), your contribution will be supporting WARREN 2020 :D

oh yeah.

ilduclo 07.27.2018 02:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBZk6JZwJCU

The Soup Nazi 07.27.2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
WARREN 2020


Right now I doubt this will happen. But a Landrieu/Warren ticket could.

Skuj 07.27.2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Right now I doubt this will happen. But a Landrieu/Warren ticket could.


My readings keep telling me that Warren is a real possibility. Why do you doubt it will happen?


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