The Plot Against The President......out in October

Now Trump claims there are "forest cities" in Europe with trees that are somehow more "explosive" than Californian trees. Combustible's too big a word apparently. He specifically mentioned Austria in his confusing ramblings. My take: He may have fallen asleep to some late-80s Schwarzenegger movie and have gotten things confused. It's not uncommon that the presence of the styrian oak leads to plenty of explosions.

Or he might have watched this gripping documentary filmed in Vienna last year.

It's baffling how there are still people who think he's got his shit together.

“think” is too kind.

“believe” is more accurate.

Paul Krugman's NYT newsletter, September 15:

The Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday voted to authorize subpoenas for former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former FBI Director James Comey, and other Obama administration officials as part of its broad review into the origins of the Russia investigation.


“The committee also authorized SUBPOENAS for Sidney Blumenthal, former Obama chief of staff Denis McDonough, former FBI counsel Lisa Page, former FBI agent Joe Pientka, former ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, former FBI director of counterintelligence Bill Priestap, former White House national security adviser Susan Rice, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith – who pleaded guilty to making a false statement in the first criminal case arising from U.S. Attorney John Durham's review of the investigation into links between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign – among others.“

Politics
Former Pence aide says she will vote for Biden because of Trump’s ‘flat out disregard for human life’ during pandemic

By
Josh Dawsey
September 17, 2020 at 4:00 p.m. EDT

President Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic showed a “flat out disregard for human life” because his “main concern was the economy and his reelection,” according to a senior adviser on the White House coronavirus task force who left the White House in August.

Olivia Troye, who worked as homeland security, counterterrorism and coronavirus adviser to Vice President Pence for two years, said that the administration’s response cost lives and that she will vote for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden this fall because of her experience in the Trump White House.

“The president’s rhetoric and his own attacks against people in his administration trying to do the work, as well as the promulgation of false narratives and incorrect information of the virus have made this ongoing response a failure,” she said in an interview.

Troye is the first Trump administration official who worked extensively on the coronavirus response to forcefully speak out against Trump and his handling of the pandemic. But she joins a growing number of former officials, including former national security adviser John Bolton and former defense secretary Jim Mattis, who have detailed their worries about what happened during their time in the administration while declaring that Trump is unfit to be president.

The amount of criticism Trump has faced from former aides is unprecedented in the modern presidency, and it could pose a political risk to his reelection campaign as some of the aides who have spoken out are pressuring other former colleagues to join them.

more:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e11_story.html

From Paste:

For QAnon Origins, Look to the Pink Floyd Internet Hoax

Think of it as an origin story, or a cautionary tale: an anonymous persona in an online message board, posting tantalizing hints about a secret intrigue requiring communication and collaboration to unravel.

Austrian minister to Trump: No, we do not live in forests

Trump plans to steal the election, this is why he wants his Supreme Court judge in place before election day, so that just like in 2000 they will hand him a victory. It doesn't matter what the results are, if CNN or some other network calls the election for Biden he will contest the results up to the Supreme Court snd with his Conservative majority they will claim him the winner. We are so fucked if this works out for him, he also needs to win the election to avoid going to prison.

Does typing your bullshit out and posting it here help you believe it? I’m sure you’re a perfectly nice person, but you seem confused.

A message from Spoon:

Paul Krugman's NYT opinion column, September 22:

Romney bitches out.

That chickenshit motherfucker. And of course Lindsey Graham pledges GOP will support Trump’s nominee, despite not knowing who nominee is.

Hmm, I guess that belonged on the RBG thread? Everything intersects with this asshole. Anyway, here's the Dotard's apocalyptic list from hell:

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/...omination.html

The choices are SO fuckin' horrible I can't decide which one is fuckin' worse. "Knowing" Trump, if Barrett is his favorite it's because of her looks.

Quote:

[...] left-leaning cancel culture doesn’t pose any real threat to free discourse, because in 21st-century America we barely have anything resembling a radical left, and whatever left-wing radicalism exists has very little political power.

^ THIS

You Unitedstateseans (most of you, anyway) can't fathom how ridiculous it sounds when you talk about "radical left" gaining ground in the U.S. Ocasio-Cortez is barely center-left in countries where healthcare, education and infrastructure are better, and each citizen's vote actually counts. Crazy, huh.

Screaming Skull, LifeDistortion offers ZERO PROOF that President Donald Trump plans to steal the election! It is clear LifeDistortion has no idea how the process of election or the Supreme Court works. Geez, it’s truly amateur hour around here! Let’s see if the following information might help explain what’s going on before another Free-minded Freethinker ends up deleting their post :eek:

29 times a Supreme Court vacancy opened during an election year and 29 times that President made the nomination!

With respect to RBG, a deathbed request has no legal standing!

However, serving as a Supreme Court Justice in 2016, RBG said:


President Barack Obama was in full agreement in 2016




Same for Crooked Hillary in 2016


Notice how Crooked Hillary said, “President Obama has met his responsibility.” Do any of you free-minded freethinkers care to explain how it was the President’s responsibility in 2016 (and 28 cases prior) but somehow now doing so in 2020 it’s equivalent to cheating?

ANYONE??

Vomit Pelosi states, "We have arrows in our quiver” regarding using impeachment hearings as a way to block President Trump’s Supreme Court nomination???

And let’s not forget everyone’s favorite: AOC threatens impeachment of Trump and Barr to stop Supreme Court nominee.

LifeDistortion, it’s the Democrats who are so consumed with hatred for our President that they are willing to resort to these desperate measures to try and prevent the inevitable.

September 4, 2018 (page 241)

Not that this will make a difference, but: the point of contention is that replacing someone who died nine months before the election is a lot simpler than replacing someone who died a month and a half before it. The fact that the GOP was willing to prevent the former, but wants to allow the latter, is where most (all) of the complaints about hypocrisy come in.

As I said earlier in the other thread: nine old people appointed for life, nowadays explicitly for political reasons, is hardly how a democracy should work. 'Good' thing you guys have stopped being one.

MS. MCENANY: Hello, everyone. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have officially shown their blatant disregard for the United States Constitution. Apparently, it is now a high crime and misdemeanor worthy of impeachment for a lawfully elected President of the United States to exercise his constitutional duty.

Article Two, Section Two of the Constitu- — of the Constitution clearly states that the President, quote, “shall nominate,” end quote, justices of the Supreme Court when a vacancy occurs. No matter the time, no matter the politics of the day, the President is the President. There is nothing in the Constitution that says the President stops being the President in an election year.

The President has already appointed two strong, conservative justices to the Supreme Court — justices who will interpret the Constitution as written. Now he will nominate a third.

As Senator Ted Cruz reminds us, “We’re one vote away from seeing our religious liberty votes [rights] stripped away, from our free speech stripped away, from our Second Amendment [being] stripped away.” Just one vote. Contrast the President’s solemn constitutional duty with Democrats’ “search and destroy” politics.

Nancy Pelosi has vowed to attack the President with, quote, “arrows.” Speaker Pelosi will not rule out impeaching this President for doing his job for fulfill- — for fulfilling his constitutional obligation.

AOC said that impeachment is an option, quote, “on the table,” while Chuck Schumer stood by, nodding approvingly.

The plan of House Democrats is so rabidly radical that even Democrat Senator Tim Kaine has rebuked the idea, calling the idea of using impeachment to delay a Supreme Court vote, quote, “foolish.”

Some Democrats already have a backup plan if they don’t get their way on this nomination. Congressman Joe Kennedy said, “If he holds a vote in 2020, we pack the court in 2021. It’s that simple.”

Senator Ed Markey went further. “No Supreme Court vacancies filled in an election year,” he said. “If he violates it, when Democrats control the Senate in the next Congress, we must abolish the filibuster and expand the Supreme Court.”

Senator, the President is elected to a four-year term. You cannot unilaterally reduce it to three years. The President is the President.

Democrats cannot win their argument on the merits. They cannot win on precedent. So they must search and destroy.

Don Lemon said the quiet — the quiet part out loud last night. He said this: “We’re going to have to blow up the entire system” if the President does his job as outlined in the Constitution.

That’s the difference between Republicans and Democrats. We fight to protect the system. We fight to protect the Constitution when Democrats say outright, “We are going to blow up the entire system because we do not get our way.”

This President will proceed undaunted by Democrat threats. President Trump will fulfill his duty. President Trump will appoint the next Supreme Court justice. President Trump will protect religious liberty. President Trump will protect our freedom of speech. President Trump will protect our Second Amendment.

Under this President, our rights will be upheld, our Constitution safeguarded, and this President will fill that seat.

[quote=Bytor PeltorThat’s the difference between Republicans and Democrats. We fight to protect the system. We fight to protect the Constitution when Democrats say outright, “We are going to blow up the entire system because we do not get our way.”

[/QUOTE]

Oh shush. Time and time again Trump.and his cronies have broken the constitution and you've quietly ignored it so don't try the holier than thou line.

So many old white/orange candidates.

The fucking cop who murdered Breonna Taylor (and yes, this belongs in this thread) was charged with "wanton endangerment", which is basically another way of saying "NOTHING".

Agreed; not that it matters whether I or anyone else agrees, though, BECAUSE HE FUCKING SAID IT HIMSELF. No proof needed when the perp confesses.

Yeah, I'm not the FBI, I don't have physical evidence to show you, and yes, all you have to do is listen to what he says. He wants this to be decided by the Supreme Court, not on election day. He works by creating chaos, and that's all he has to do is have his cronies stir up chaos, and make the election results at best inconclusive so that we get another election 2000, and at worst yet another case once again where Democrats will win the popular vote and the electoral college ends up deciding the President. The Rupublicans have been working towards this where elections are no longer decided by how the voters vote, as long as they can rig the electoral college.

President Donald Trump: "This scam that the Democrats are pulling, it's a scam, the scam will be before the United States Supreme Court, and I think having a 4-4 situation is not a good situation,"


NO LD, President Trump doesn’t WANT the election decision going before the Supreme Court. He wants the same process that happened in 2016, it’s what we all want......well, except the Democrats.

You see, Crooked Hillary and her cronies, most notably President Barack Obama, who was using Government resources to spy on the Trump Campaign in 2016, they weren’t prepared for that outcome......they weren’t prepared to LOSE!

HELLS BELLS, it’s what the title of this thread has been all about! The Democrats weren’t prepared to LOSE and all they’ve been doing since then is desperately trying to win 2016......because they couldn’t beat a Orange Cheeto who had NEVER held an office or campaigned for anything ever!

Russia Russia, Mueller investigation and a miserable failed impeachment, but they are better prepared for 2020 and they are willing to WIN at all cost!

Let’s take a closer look...... Biden Campaign Deploys 600 Lawyers So Trump Can’t ‘Steal This Election’

“Biden said at a fundraiser Wednesday night that his campaign has “put together 600 lawyers” and a team of volunteers, who will “[go] into every single state to try to figure out whether chicanery is likely to take place.”

Pennsylvania court extends mail-in ballot deadline

"We conclude that a ballot received on or before 5:00 p.m. on November 6, 2020, will be presumed to have been mailed by Election Day unless a preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that it was mailed after Election Day,"

Why is Pennsylvania’s highest court extending election day by three days......who decides this preponderance of evidence? Pennsylvania has NEVER NEEDED three extra days in previous Presidential elections!


Bloomberg raises $16.1M to help Florida felons regain voting rights

“has now paid off monetary obligations for 32,000 felons in Florida just before Election Day.“

Florida Republicans ask for investigation into Bloomberg felon voter fundraising

“This isn’t an exercise in democracy, this is cherry-picking votes, offering something of value for them,” Gaetz said, noting he spoke with Moody on Tuesday night. “I believe the Florida Attorney General has jurisdiction.”

Here you have a billionaire Democrat using his money to pay off restitution and fines for 32,000 felons just so they can go vote......this has never happened before!


These are just a few examples of what the Democrats are trying to manipulate and change before the election. They know they have NO CHANCE if voters stand in line and the votes are tallied that night. So they are preparing to drag this out for days and weeks and if they get their way —THEN— we will see this go before the Supreme Court.


Lastly......New York columnist Miranda Devine said, "If you think that they were sore losers in 2016, you ain't seen anything yet. ... Democrats have no intention of accepting defeat at the ballot box."


Democratic News Reporter openly stated on the DEMOCRATIC CNN that they (DEMOCRATS) are “going to have to blow up the entire system” if the President does his job as outlined in the Constitution.

LifeDistortion......why are Democrats wanting to “blow up” the Constitution? Why are DEMOCRATS so worried about the President doing his job? It’s the DEMOCRATS who want to tear down and burn down and blow up......Marxist tactics!!!



Ummmmmm......the Republicans haven’t changed anything!!!

Imagine getting upset because someone is helping other people vote. Bloomberg isn't even telling them who to vote for. Get a grip on yourself, Bytor.

Nothing more than a republican bootlicker.

Edit:To add, there's not a single person on here who has said Biden is perfect and free from criticism. He ain't perfect but given a choice between the two Biden is clearly the better alternative. Hell even Schunk has at points admitted when Trump has got it wrong (admittedly ignoring the big fuck ups Trump has done) yet Bytor has swallowed each and every one of Trump's bullshit and it's been four years of A LOT of bullshit.

So I gotta ask you what has made you so hard-line on Trump that he's infallible to criticism? Is it a wish to save face no matter how ridiculous it looks?

I posted this on September 5 (not even three weeks ago and it already seems like two more fucking years have passed - FUCK!):

Why Trump Supporters Can’t Admit Who He Really Is

By the way, I posted this on September 7:


And what do we have now? Something even worse:

Trump: "There won't be a transfer [of power], frankly. There'll be a continuation."

Good analysis from The Washington Post:

Parsing Trump's 'there won't be a transfer' comments

^ I was also right about the booing, not that it was hard to see it coming:

Booooo, motherfucker! BOOOOOOOO!

They were clearly saying Boo-urns.

$16 MILLION for 31,000......it’s beyond clear who the true bootlicker is!

Candace Owens tweet

“Michael Bloomberg paying off the debts of 31,000 Floridians to get them to vote for Joe Biden is clear-cut ELECTION FRAUD.

He should not only be investigated, he should be IMPRISONED for the highest form of bribery.“


Florida attorney general asks for investigation of Bloomberg’s fundraising push to cover fines for felons who want to vote

I personally don't think Michael Bloomberg gives a shit. If anything, this is just to make him look good for 2024 if he goes again.

i personally think bloomberg cares that this country doesn’t end up destroyed at the hands of a degenerate and his stupid followers, and won’t run again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^ That's Doomsday, you follow.

Trump could stay in power even if he doesn’t win the election. The Constitution allows it.

Opinion by Fareed Zakaria
Columnist
September 24, 2020 at 6:25 p.m. GMT-3

By declining to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, President Trump has agitated many who fear he will refuse to leave office even if he loses the November election — and may even resort to violence. The terrifying reality is that there are also several mechanisms that are legal and constitutional that could enable Trump to stay in office without actually winning the vote.

The system of electing the president is complicated because it was not designed to be directly democratic. The Constitution calls for states to choose the presidential electors, who in turn gather to vote for the president. Over time, states have passed laws that ensured their state’s popular vote for the presidency would determine the electors. But those are laws, not a constitutional obligation.

Now, imagine the scenario during election week: Trump is leading on Nov. 3, but Democratic nominee Joe Biden gains ground in the days following. Republicans file objections to tens of thousands of mail-in ballots. Democrats file countersuits. Taking account of the confusion, legislatures decide to choose the electors themselves.

Here’s the worry. Of the nine swing states, eight have Republican legislatures. If one or more decide that balloting is chaotic and marred by irregularities, they could send what they regard as the legitimate slate of electors, which would be Republican.

Democrats may object and file lawsuits. In some of those states, Democratic governors or secretaries of state could send their own slates of electors to Washington. That would add to the confusion, but that might well be part of the Republican plan. When Congress convenes on Jan. 6 to tally the electors’ votes, there would be challenges to the legitimacy of some electors. Congressional Republicans would agree that disputed states should not be counted. That would ensure that neither candidate would get to 270 electoral votes.

At that point, the Constitution directs that the House of Representatives vote to determine the presidential election. But it does so with each state casting a single vote. If the current numbers hold, there would be 26 state delegations that are Republican and 23 Democratic (with one tied), so the outcome would be to reelect Trump. Trump does not need to do anything other than accept this outcome, which is constitutional. (Hat tip to Tom Rogers and Tim Wirth for their writings on this topic.)

Trump clearly understands this chain of events. He has been casting doubt on mail-in ballots for months, insisting that the results must be the ones that reflect the tally on election night. He said this week that without mail-in ballots, there would be no worries about a transfer of power because there would simply be a continuation of his rule. He has also acknowledged that “at a certain point, it goes to Congress.”

For this scenario to play out, state Republican parties have to put their desire to win above concerns that all voices are heard. Unfortunately, recent history suggests that most will readily make this trade.

Many state Republican parties have been actively attempting to suppress votes. Just a few examples: In 2011, Texas passed a law requiring a government ID for voting, and allowed gun licenses but not student IDs from state universities. Ostensibly, this was to prevent voter fraud, which several studies have shown is largely nonexistent. In 2017, Georgia passed a law blocking voter registrations with minor typos, which mainly affected Black voters. In Florida, the Republican governor and legislature have effectively gutted a state initiative that restored voting rights to more than 1 million former felons, disproportionately Black.

American democracy is getting warped because the Republican Party believes its path to power lies not in getting a majority of the votes but through other means. In 2018, thanks to redistricting, Republicans in Wisconsin, having won about 45 percent of the vote, ended up with almost 65 percent of the seats in the state assembly. They have become used to this kind of situation on the national stage. Since 1992, the Republican presidential candidate has won the popular vote only once — in 2004, in the wake of the country’s worst terrorist attack and with a wartime “rally around the flag” sentiment. Nevertheless, Republicans have held the White House for almost half of those 28 years.

The United States prides itself as the world’s leading democracy. And yet, because of a vague and creaky constitutional process and ferocious partisanship, this November we might put on a display of democratic dysfunction that would rival any banana republic on the planet.

NYT Trump Tax Return headline!!! Make popcorn. Watch Bytor and Schunk ignore it. "But her emails."

"I alone can fix it."