i personally think bloomberg cares that this country doesn’t end up destroyed at the hands of a degenerate and his stupid followers, and won’t run again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^ That's Doomsday, you follow.

Trump could stay in power even if he doesn’t win the election. The Constitution allows it.

Opinion by Fareed Zakaria
Columnist
September 24, 2020 at 6:25 p.m. GMT-3

By declining to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, President Trump has agitated many who fear he will refuse to leave office even if he loses the November election — and may even resort to violence. The terrifying reality is that there are also several mechanisms that are legal and constitutional that could enable Trump to stay in office without actually winning the vote.

The system of electing the president is complicated because it was not designed to be directly democratic. The Constitution calls for states to choose the presidential electors, who in turn gather to vote for the president. Over time, states have passed laws that ensured their state’s popular vote for the presidency would determine the electors. But those are laws, not a constitutional obligation.

Now, imagine the scenario during election week: Trump is leading on Nov. 3, but Democratic nominee Joe Biden gains ground in the days following. Republicans file objections to tens of thousands of mail-in ballots. Democrats file countersuits. Taking account of the confusion, legislatures decide to choose the electors themselves.

Here’s the worry. Of the nine swing states, eight have Republican legislatures. If one or more decide that balloting is chaotic and marred by irregularities, they could send what they regard as the legitimate slate of electors, which would be Republican.

Democrats may object and file lawsuits. In some of those states, Democratic governors or secretaries of state could send their own slates of electors to Washington. That would add to the confusion, but that might well be part of the Republican plan. When Congress convenes on Jan. 6 to tally the electors’ votes, there would be challenges to the legitimacy of some electors. Congressional Republicans would agree that disputed states should not be counted. That would ensure that neither candidate would get to 270 electoral votes.

At that point, the Constitution directs that the House of Representatives vote to determine the presidential election. But it does so with each state casting a single vote. If the current numbers hold, there would be 26 state delegations that are Republican and 23 Democratic (with one tied), so the outcome would be to reelect Trump. Trump does not need to do anything other than accept this outcome, which is constitutional. (Hat tip to Tom Rogers and Tim Wirth for their writings on this topic.)

Trump clearly understands this chain of events. He has been casting doubt on mail-in ballots for months, insisting that the results must be the ones that reflect the tally on election night. He said this week that without mail-in ballots, there would be no worries about a transfer of power because there would simply be a continuation of his rule. He has also acknowledged that “at a certain point, it goes to Congress.”

For this scenario to play out, state Republican parties have to put their desire to win above concerns that all voices are heard. Unfortunately, recent history suggests that most will readily make this trade.

Many state Republican parties have been actively attempting to suppress votes. Just a few examples: In 2011, Texas passed a law requiring a government ID for voting, and allowed gun licenses but not student IDs from state universities. Ostensibly, this was to prevent voter fraud, which several studies have shown is largely nonexistent. In 2017, Georgia passed a law blocking voter registrations with minor typos, which mainly affected Black voters. In Florida, the Republican governor and legislature have effectively gutted a state initiative that restored voting rights to more than 1 million former felons, disproportionately Black.

American democracy is getting warped because the Republican Party believes its path to power lies not in getting a majority of the votes but through other means. In 2018, thanks to redistricting, Republicans in Wisconsin, having won about 45 percent of the vote, ended up with almost 65 percent of the seats in the state assembly. They have become used to this kind of situation on the national stage. Since 1992, the Republican presidential candidate has won the popular vote only once — in 2004, in the wake of the country’s worst terrorist attack and with a wartime “rally around the flag” sentiment. Nevertheless, Republicans have held the White House for almost half of those 28 years.

The United States prides itself as the world’s leading democracy. And yet, because of a vague and creaky constitutional process and ferocious partisanship, this November we might put on a display of democratic dysfunction that would rival any banana republic on the planet.

NYT Trump Tax Return headline!!! Make popcorn. Watch Bytor and Schunk ignore it. "But her emails."

"I alone can fix it."

October 7, 2019 (page 381)


So skuJ returns with his third post since May.

My stance regarding Trump’s taxes are no different today than they were October last year. If tax fraud or evasion was committed, it was done so under the Obama, Bush and (perhaps) Clinton presidencies??? Nothing was deemed illegal during their terms as President! Most importantly, Presidents aren’t required to release their taxes so I’m unsure if anything can be done with this leaked information???

Lastly, it’s my understanding a BIG BIG BIG story will drop later this week regarding The Clinton’s : )

Will Joe show up at the debate Tuesday?

Former FBI Director Comey to Testify Wednesday

“Mr. Mueller has declined the committee’s invitation to appear to explain his report. He says he doesn’t have enough time to prepare. But I’m going to ask the Department of Justice and Inspector General Horowitz to look at this report that members of Mr. Mueller’s team erased information from their devices.”

^ As a courtesy to Symbols I won't quote you. But I have one last question for your sorry ass: Forget legal technicalities, WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING VALUES YOU DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT.

Charlie Kirk tweet
“I’m far more interested in the tax returns of a politician who became a multimillionaire than the tax returns of a billionaire who became a politician.”


In 2016 the Biden’s earned roughly $400k

......in 2017-18, the Biden’s earned more than $16.5 million

the TRUTH about “values” is coming!!!

I guess Soup doesn’t exercise “values” in other threads?

Charlie Kirk tweet

“Can you imagine if the New York Times found $3.5 million in Trump’s tax returns from the wife of the Mayor of Moscow and that that money went to pay prostitutes connected to a human trafficking ring

They would lose their minds!

So why are they ignoring Hunter Biden?”

Then show us to prove otherwise and we'll shut up about it.

It doesn’t work that way! As I’ve stated, President's aren’t required to release their taxes......it’s the law! Congress could have changed the rules at anytime during our lifetimes, but they haven’t and who knows if they ever will? As I’ve stated before in this thread, I wouldn’t mind seeing where an individual must release their taxes before officially becoming a presidential candidate.

It’s sad that you think anyone would want you to “shut up about it.” Just like the Mueller investigation, impeachment and the General Flynn investigation, Trumps taxes are probably another dead end......so bitch and moan all you want and I’ll continue to enjoy my popcorn.

and the rest of the universe! :)

thank you

damn dude, my eyes.

you don’t realize you’re an unwitting henchman, do you? :D

All of you free minded freethinkers are just opportunities for TRUTH!!!




Do you see what I see? Can free minded freethinkers comprehend??

Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750.

Also, one must consider that President Trump has donated each of his yearly Presidential checks to charity (what was soup saying about values?). That’s roughly $1.2 million over three years......how much of a credit/write off does one receive for $1.2 million in donations???


I wonder how much of that $16+ million the Biden’s donated to charity?

is he talking to himself again now?

lol Trump contributes absolute nothing to American society.

May 18, 2018 (page 202)



May 18, 2018 (page 203)


May 18, 2018 (page 203)......h8kurdt’s eyes must be sewn shut!


May 20, 2018 (page 203)......tesla knew!

May 20, 2018 (page 203)......the poo slinger wallows in madness!


Donald Trump Jr. tweet

OMG—JUST DECLASSIFIED:
The Russia hoax was Hillary’s plan, and the Obama-Biden White House was briefed on it.

September 7, 2016 - U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strozk regarding “U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.


May 20, 2018 (page 203)

June 20, 2018 (page 212)



November 6, 2018 (page 261)


Charlie Kirk tweet

BREAKING:

According to recently declassified intel reports—John Brennan briefed Obama and others about “approval by Hillary Clinton” on a plan to vilify Donald Trump by tying him to Russia & Putin

Obama knew.

This was a hoax from the beginning—where are the indictments?

Shit...we have 2 more clusterfucks to sit through?

Fine by me if Biden makes the Dotard lose it again.

This is nothing. (And stop making false equivalences.) Worry about the election.

And when I say worry about the election, I mean WORRY about THIS.


Trump:


ETA: The motherfuckers have already added president Apocalypse Fuckface's message to them to their logo.

December 2, 2018 (page 276)

September 27, 2020 (page 464)

T-minus six hours until Comey testifies again, this time with the newly unclassified report that Crooked Hillary was the mastermind behind Russian collusion......will anyone be watching?


Chad Pergram tweet
“Fmr FBI Dir Comey goes before Senate Judiciary Cmte today to answer questions about Crossfire Hurricane probe/FISA warrants“

What the fuck!?
He is your President
He is responsible
He should take action against it, not just say that he opposes, but act as such

but a toddler can’t be held responsible for anything! :D

Man, this is not looking good. It was Biden versus a belligerent buffoon who didn't even care to hide his buffoonery anymore, safe for unconvincingly stating his disinfectant injection comment earlier this year had been "sarcastic". Trump didn't do himself any favors with this lack of a performance. But that's actually what worries me. In line with what Soup Nazi stated above: The dotard has hinted time and time again at the possibility, that he may not accept the results of the election if they are not in his favor. There's this sinking feeling that what the world witnessed yesterday was a man who doesn't care anymore. Why would he have no reason to care? Possibly because he seems to think he won't leave office no matter what? I mean, this shit was worrying way way before yesterday's pathetic display. But it certainly seemed to put a definite stamp on all the worries that have been festering over time. Shit, he ain't even dogwhistling anymore, all of his bigotry came with a humungous sign that said "Here, look at me, I'm out in the open". At this point, does it matter if Biden wipes the floor with him during the election, when there's a good chance Trump's gonna exploit a broken system to his advantage again? Frightening thought I tell ya, frightening thought.

I'd forgotten how bad Trump is in these kinds of situations. But I was quickly reminded how, as terrible as he was overall in those debates with Hillary, where, even as I became increasingly unsympathetic towards her, his only real stand out moment (albeit a massive one) was his, "because you'd be in jail" line. There was nothing as perfectly timed or delivered as that last night. But more than that, I thinkTrump's real problem is that while people may question lots of things about Biden, they don't instinctively dislike him the way so many did when it came to Hillary. I actually thought Biden did really well last night: keeping his head and never succumbing to the gaffes many expected (hopefully from Trump's side, fearfully on the side of the Dems). He was the level-headed centrist throughout and definitely forced Trump to go on the defensive.

While I suspect that neither would have converted anyone already set on their support for one or the other I'd definitely give this round to Biden. Trump's strongest moment IMO was where he called out antifa, but that isn't something I'd see Biden as being synonymous with. His blows there would've landed far harder had they been aimed at someone like AOC or Ilhanan Omar but nobody realistically equates Biden (or Kamala Harris for that matter) with any kind of far Left stormtrooper organisation. This even made Trump's attack on Biden's position on law and order (who history tells us is far from 'progressive') fall flat, especially with Biden himself killing it outright with his support of it and denunciation of the whole 'defund the police' thing. In the end, his best line of attack from Trump was that Biden simply hadn't achieved much during all his years in politics. True, maybe .... maybe ... but hardly a mic drop.

I want Trump to win but I think Biden may, in spite of my early thoughts, be his absolutely worst kind of opponent. Not because I think he's an especially strong candidate but, on the contrary, because he's actually such a mediocre one who forces the spotlight onto Trump and his evident weaknesses. Trump would've been far more affective against a more divisive figure like Kamala Harris, but Biden, at worst, just seems like the slightly embarassing grandad who you send to bed before they really start to get out of hand. And we all have a soft for those, even when they're serving as a distraction from something far worse.

why do you wish us dead??

Mate...

Actually doubly glad Everton are beating West Ham right now.

3-1! i'm a new fan lmao

Unless I'm missing a very weak attempt at sarcasm, this post needs to go. Disgusting horseshit is not a "differing opinion".

Opinion piece by Tom Friedman in The New York Times:

Really? Have you not watched the fuckin' news over the past five years, Chris? What a mook.

admit Hillary's book is fucking creepy, at the very least

So no sarcasm. Oh, Hillary is creepy? Go post pictures of female genitalia on Parler and get the hell out of here forever, dickhead.

Two questions: where, and why?

You're starting to sound like some kind of cult member. You obviously hate Trump but getting triggered like this when someone hints at weird goings on within the Washington elite makes no sense to me. In a choice between Stalin and Hitler I'd probably go Stalin. I wouldn't deny the existence of gulags though.

Almost like...qanon?

Given that there's been zero solid evidence of "weird goings on" I'll err on the side of caution.

Rrriiiight, that's what's in front of us, a choice between Hitler and Stalin... "Weird goings on"... Christ on a stick, this place it's a bottomless pit sometimes.

it’s sad to see old friends seduced by fascists. god fucking damn...

what am i doing on this board i almost don’t know anymore...

We're here because of Sonic Youth, a band that was, among many other great things, left-leaning and anti-fascist.

What the fuck are THEY doing here.

And what the fuck has been done to them? It never ceases to baffle me how someone who enjoys the music of a band that so obviously wears their collective hearts on their sleeves can turn into the followers of such vile demagogues. Just as much as it baffles me how "Women For Trump" is a thing.

Is it compartmentalization? Only caring about the sound and not the messages behind it? I mean, some are undoubtedly only here to troll and it stopped being about proper discourse amongst fans of a certain band a long time ago. With others, I'm not so sure this is their sole MO. But it is confounding to say the least.