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_tunic_ 08.05.2018 04:19 AM

don't worry guys. Everything will be all right in no-time. Steven Seagull will bring world peace for everyone!


 

h8kurdt 08.05.2018 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
He went after Springsteen tonight:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/u...act-check.html

NOW I really fucking hate him. Fuck him in the EAR. Fuck him in the OTHER ear. :)


Any man who goes after Bruce isn't a man at all.

Bytor Peltor 08.05.2018 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Any man who goes after Bruce isn't a man at all.


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!@#$%! 08.05.2018 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _tunic_
don't worry guys. Everything will be all right in no-time. Steven Seagull will bring world peace for everyone!


 

hahahahaha

hahahahahahahaaaaaa


a++++++++ will buy again

thanks!

!@#$%! 08.05.2018 01:19 PM

BRIDGEWATER, N.J. — President Trump on Sunday offered his most definitive and clear public acknowledgment that his oldest son met with a Kremlin-aligned lawyer at Trump Tower during the 2016 campaign to “get information on an opponent,” defending the meeting as “totally legal and done all the time in politics.”

It is, however, against the law for U.S. campaigns to receive donations or items of value from foreigners, and that June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and Natalia Veselnitskaya is now a subject of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia probe.

While “collusion” is not mentioned in U.S. criminal statutes, Mueller is investigating whether anyone associated with Trump coordinated with the Russians, which could result in criminal charges if they entered into a conspiracy to break the law, including through cyberhacking or interfering with the election.




etc...

Skuj 08.05.2018 03:19 PM

Almost every day Team Trump tries to smooth the edges of what even Ray Charles can see is coming.

One day we will all fully understand why Trump cannot bring himself to criticize/sanction Putin. That day will come when Mueller delivers his findings. And Team Trump will do everything they can to demonize/weaken Mueller in the meantime.

Skuj 08.05.2018 05:11 PM

The basic messaging now seems to be "It isn't a crime to commit a crime."

ilduclo 08.06.2018 12:36 PM

Forty times President Donald Trump has posted statements on Twitter asserting “NO COLLUSION” with Russia during the 2016 election. He made the claim standing next to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki last month, and then a day later during a Cabinet meeting at the White House.

Sunday, he negated all of that by admitting that his campaign had tried to collude with Russia to win the presidency, after all.

Trump wrote in an 8:35 a.m. post on Twitter that the purpose of a June 9, 2016, gathering at Trump Tower was “to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics ― and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!”

Rob Instigator 08.06.2018 12:44 PM

sux

ilduclo 08.06.2018 12:48 PM

 



Portland far-right marchers have rally plans foiled by store manager who calls tow trucks on them: ‘Our cars are toast’

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/por...ks-cars-toast/

The Soup Nazi 08.06.2018 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
Forty times President Donald Trump has posted statements on Twitter asserting “NO COLLUSION” with Russia during the 2016 election. He made the claim standing next to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki last month, and then a day later during a Cabinet meeting at the White House.

Sunday, he negated all of that by admitting that his campaign had tried to collude with Russia to win the presidency, after all.

Trump wrote in an 8:35 a.m. post on Twitter that the purpose of a June 9, 2016, gathering at Trump Tower was “to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics ― and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!”


NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION NO COLLUSION wait OK maybe collusion.

!@#$%! 08.06.2018 12:55 PM

the problem is not whether or not the dotard is a scumbag: clearly he's been all along, besides being a hate-mongering racist.

but even if everything is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, who would do anything about it? that's the real problem.

first: the republican congress will not touch him. they're either terrified of him or chained in submission, but no balls to stand up to him except for a handful of people, one of which is dying of brain cancer.

second: as long as the economy appears to be going well, i am not sure that sufficient electoral districts are willing to change their congressional representation.

please note, i am not talking about popular vote or the public sentiment in major urban centers, or the people who collectively commiserate with john oliver. i'm talking about congressional districts as apportioned after the 2010 census.

that's the problem that need fixing: congress.

yes, trump could go out and murder 50 babies and congress would just sit idly by while agent orange blames obama, or hillary's emails.

so, congress.

!@#$%! 08.06.2018 01:09 PM

here in nm there are 3 congressional districts: 2 in democratic hands 1 in republican hands

the democratic congresswoman from district 1 is running for governor (i really hope she wins). so the republicans are targeting her seat.

the republican congressman from district 2 is running for governor (which is a terrifying prospect). democrats are targeting his seat, but i am not sure about demographics though.

the incumbent democrat from district 3 should be okay where he is and win reelection.

The Soup Nazi 08.06.2018 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
here in nm there are 3 congressional districts: 2 in democratic hands 1 in republican hands

the democratic congresswoman from district 1 is running for governor (i really hope she wins). so the republicans are targeting her seat.

the republican congressman from district 2 is running for governor (which is a terrifying prospect). democrats are targeting his seat, but i am not sure about demographics though.

the incumbent democrat from district 3 should be okay where he is and win reelection.


I wanna vote.

!@#$%! 08.06.2018 01:17 PM

the senate seat in contest seems in safe democratic hands as well.

so the challenge is to

1) beat steve pearce in the governor race

2) take his seat in district 2. he's won regularly by about 20% since the early century so i don't know we can, but worth a try. seat was democratic briefly in 2008 while pearce ran for senate (and failed). then pearce took it back in 2010 (by 10% margin only, his lowest showing). this is doable.

Skuj 08.06.2018 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
Forty times President Donald Trump has posted statements on Twitter asserting “NO COLLUSION” with Russia during the 2016 election. He made the claim standing next to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki last month, and then a day later during a Cabinet meeting at the White House.

Sunday, he negated all of that by admitting that his campaign had tried to collude with Russia to win the presidency, after all.

Trump wrote in an 8:35 a.m. post on Twitter that the purpose of a June 9, 2016, gathering at Trump Tower was “to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics ― and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!”


I absolutely love that The Twitterer In Chief has stepped in it so many times. This one is the mother of all stupid tweets.

I've asked this before: WTF does Kelly do, again?

The Soup Nazi 08.06.2018 02:31 PM

President urged to shut the fuck up on Trump Tower meeting

Also, click below to track the investigation interactively! :D

 

Skuj 08.06.2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the problem is not whether or not the dotard is a scumbag: clearly he's been all along, besides being a hate-mongering racist.

but even if everything is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, who would do anything about it? that's the real problem.

first: the republican congress will not touch him. they're either terrified of him or chained in submission, but no balls to stand up to him except for a handful of people, one of which is dying of brain cancer.

second: as long as the economy appears to be going well, i am not sure that sufficient electoral districts are willing to change their congressional representation.

please note, i am not talking about popular vote or the public sentiment in major urban centers, or the people who collectively commiserate with john oliver. i'm talking about congressional districts as apportioned after the 2010 census.

that's the problem that need fixing: congress.

yes, trump could go out and murder 50 babies and congress would just sit idly by while agent orange blames obama, or hillary's emails.

so, congress.


I'm still trying to understand what the GOP did in 2010 with this redistribution thing. I keep hearing things like Dems need up to 7% more than GOP in popular vote to win.

(I think I'm a relatively smart person, but I still cannot come to grips with all of the details and nuances of USA elections.)

The Soup Nazi 08.06.2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I'm still trying to understand what the GOP did in 2010 with this redistribution thing. I keep hearing things like Dems need up to 7% more than GOP in popular vote to win.

(I think I'm a relatively smart person, but I still cannot come to grips with all of the details and nuances of USA elections.)


Well, paradoxically, for people like you and I, who live in more advanced societies, understanding more primitive ones can be a difficult thing. Sometimes. Other times it's just that they're corrupt and stupid.

!@#$%! 08.06.2018 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I'm still trying to understand what the GOP did in 2010 with this redistribution thing. I keep hearing things like Dems need up to 7% more than GOP in popular vote to win.

(I think I'm a relatively smart person, but I still cannot come to grips with all of the details and nuances of USA elections.)


start here for the basic concept of districting: https://law.onecle.com/constitution/...stricting.html

as populations change, districts must be redrawn.

th us constitution mandates a census every 10years

redistricting is done locally by state legislatures

anyway, once you get all that, youre ready to understand gerrymandering
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering


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