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The Best People, episode I lost count:

Former Trump aide George Papadopoulos sentenced to 14 days in prison
Says he "can't guarantee" he didn't tell Trump campaign about Russian dirt

Of course, it's only 14 days for now, and only because he flipped. Noice.

From The Washington Post:

Trump's 9/11 starts like any other day — with him mad at something he saw on Fox

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The morning of Sept. 11 began like any other. That was true in New York City in 2001, before terrorists struck the World Trade Center. And it was true in Washington in 2018, when President Trump began his day not with a somber remembrance of those killed 17 years prior but with a tweet excoriating the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. [...]

Which brings me to — from Brand New Congress:

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Is this how we honor our heroes?

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That's how many times John Feal has testified before Congress seeking help for first responders and people of the community exposed to dangerous toxins in the clean-up at Ground Zero.

John is a veteran, a 9/11 first responder, a survivor, and a tireless advocate for victims who continue to suffer the effects of that day. John himself is afflicted with asthma and GERD, and struggled with PTSD for years, but he considers himself one of the lucky ones. Others are suffering from multiple, aggressive forms of cancer. Every 3 days, we lose another one.

Since 2004, survivors like John have been lobbying Congress to provide compensation and adequate medical care to address the long-term health impacts of those who worked at Ground Zero, and lived in the surrounding community.

First, our lawmakers told them, "This is a New York problem."

But there were people from 433 Congressional Districts represented in those recovery efforts.

Then, Congress asked them, "How are we going to pay for it?"

...a question they've never asked in the 18 years we've been at war in Afghanistan, or any of the conflicts we've entered since.

Outrageously, some lawmakers even accused Feal and his fellow victims advocates of fabricating their illnesses.

It took six years of relentless lobbying by first responders, many of whom were dying, and their advocates to shame Congress into taking action. The Zadroga Bill was passed in 2010 and the Victims Compensation Fund was established. The bill went through a vicious reauthorization fight in 2015. Now it's set to expire again in 2020.

Unfortunately, the long-term health effects are accelerating, and the fund will run out of money before it can be reauthorized. It's estimated by 2020 the official death toll for the September 11th attacks will more than double once all affected by the Ground Zero clean-up are counted. Today, more than 10,000 survivors registered with the VCF have a government-certified 9/11-related cancer. Over 40% of VCF registrants have three or more illnesses.

Every year, like clockwork, our politicians somberly acknowledge the terrible events of that day, telling us to "Never forget."

But when their efforts are truly needed many are, at best, absent or worse, fighting against the commitment we made as a nation.

Where is their sense of duty? Where is their honor?

And if they won't stand up for the survivors of 9/11, how can we expect them to stand up for the millions of Americans struggling to make ends meet every day? How can we expect them to support our citizens in Puerto Rico, still struggling to rebuild the island one year after Hurricane María? Or the working poor left homeless after Hurricane Harvey? Or the millions of Americans financially devastated by the Great Recession?

If we can't count on Congress to step up and do their duty for our most venerated heroes, we can't expect them to look out for any of us.

On days like this, we pause to reflect on this long, difficult, necessary path before us, and remember why we're doing this. This is some of the hardest work any of us have ever undertaken, but we believe the only way to have a Congress that truly works for all of us is to elect an entirely new one, unburdened by financial dependence on the super rich and special interests, and committed to what all Americans want.

Healthcare for all. Opportunities for a debt-free education. The chance to learn a new trade, launch a new business — or simply to earn an honest day's pay for an honest day's work.

We need to fill the halls of Congress with advocates and champions, allies and activists, whistleblowers and working class heroes. We need a Congress who will fight for our first responders, and for all of us. We need a Congress humble enough to serve, and dedicated to their duty to the nation.

Thank you for being part of this journey with us.

In solidarity,

Isra Allison, Executive Director

Brand New Congress

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Acting ICE Director attends annual media event of anti-immigrant hate group FAIR

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ate-group-fair

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

Acting ICE Director attends annual media event of anti-immigrant hate group FAIR

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ate-group-fair

Charming. :mad:

"LET'S KICK THESE FUCKERS OUT!"
—Lee Ranaldo, August 25, 2018

Speaking about the family separation policy, a program that has received bipartisan condemnation, Vitiello shrugged off that “only 2,500 people were affected by that situation.”

and about 500 of the kids are still in custody. and, building more kids jails and cages as we speak

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/u...detention.html

MANAFORT FLIPS THE FUCK ON TRUMP

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

<- it's coming for ya, motherfuckers...

Told ya...

Nikki Hailey gets 52,000$ taxpayer bought curtains for her 58,000$ a month taxpayer paid apartment.

Should be Nikki Jailey

I just hope that apocalypse predicted for 2012 simply got stuck in space traffic.

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I just hope that apocalypse predicted for 2012 simply got stuck in space traffic.

I dig the one predicted for 1991.

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MANAFORT FLIPS THE FUCK ON TRUMP

Told ya...

Don't expect a reply from the Trump twins on here. There's no way they can spin this one into a Democrat lies or drain the swamp thing.

Walls are closing in on him.

On Tuesday, Congress woman Tulsi Gabbard pointed out the glaring hypocrisy of the White House honoring those who were killed by Al-Qaeda during 9/11 while the US is simultaneously supporting Al-Qaeda in Idlib.
“While President Trump & VP Pence give 9/11 speeches about how much they care about the victims of al-Qaeda’s attack on our country, they are simultaneously acting as protectors of AQ in Syria/Idlib, threatening Russia and Syria that if they attack al-Qaeda, we will punish them,” Gabbard tweeted.

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I think he's got serious chances to become a republican candidate for the big elections. But I don't believe that the world has become such a dump that he would actually become the president.

unfortunately it has

as you can witness

Forget the Trump Circus: Focus Instead on his Ruinous Policies

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When Trump was elected, Luigi Zingales, an Italian-born professor and a close observer of the smarmy Italian tycoon and politician Silvio Berlusconi — in my view, the closest modern-day parallel to Trump — advised Democrats not to focus on the man or his personality or the latest scandals. Doing so would only reinforce Trump supporters’ views that the discredited establishment was trying to frustrate their champion. Instead, Zingales said, the opposition should probe the forces that brought Trump to power and expose the big lie behind his fake populist posturings.

As Zingales argued, demagogues such as Trump come to power because people are alienated and angry — often justifiably so. The demagogues behave repugnantly, but when the opposition focuses on that awful behavior — as Hillary Clinton did in the election campaign — it is playing a losing hand. The more the elite go after Trump, Zingales suggests, the more people think, “He’s one of us.” Reflecting on this, David Leonhardt of the New York Times concluded, “The successful strategy . . . is to treat the demagogue like a normal politician who is failing to deliver. . . . Democrats need to cast [Trump] more like a plutocrat and feckless president and less like a buffoon and a cartoon villain.”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...17b_story.html

We have a president who is protecting us against Chinese dumping and slave labor and the transnationalists all go WAAH!! Trump is horrible, we want a trannie for president!

“One pastor in Beijing not long ago was told by the government, ‘pastor we don’t mind if you continue holding your services, we just want to put this camera on your platform looking out at the audience and it’s attached to facial recognition software so that we can tell who comes to church on Sunday and who’s there and what they are doing and how involved they are,'” he said.

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We have a president who is protecting us against Chinese dumping and slave labor and the transnationalists all go WAAH!! Trump is horrible,

“One pastor in Beijing not long ago was told by the government, ‘pastor we don’t mind if you continue holding your services, we just want to put this camera on your platform looking out at the audience and it’s attached to facial recognition software so that we can tell who comes to church on Sunday and who’s there and what they are doing and how involved they are,'” he said.

If you honestly don't believe governments around the world (be it the US or the UK for me) will be implementing facial recognition into every facet of life they can you're mental. Hell, it's already started

Amazon, the company synonymous with online shopping, is supplying facial recognition technology to government and law enforcement agencies over its web services platform.

As for the tariffs I guess you're too far up Trumps ass to realise that the only people who are going to be affected by it are the American consumers. Yay good going, Trump!

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we want a trannie for president!

Rather a "trannie" with brains than a rich white male with shit for brains

I read that at first as Chinese dumplings. That would be a damn shame!

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Don't expect a reply from the Trump twins on here. There's no way they can spin this one into a Democrat lies or drain the swamp thing.

Walls are closing in on him.

“It’s not clear why Manafort agreed to flip after a year of refusing to do so.”

What are considerations at sentencing......a possible pardon?

Alex Trbeck: CORRECT!

Now for the Daily Double

Any walls closing in will be on Muller’s employment as I hope President Trump sets a deadline for the investigation once the midterms are over.