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Rob Instigator 01.22.2010 01:49 PM

that's some shit atsonic, but that is why they OWN YOU NOW

notice how they included any media that will be created forvere in perpetuity? what the fuck?

GeneticKiss 01.22.2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Is there anyone else except NR that actually likes Death Proof? All my buddies liked it but it was not my thing.


The only problem I really have with Death Proof is that halfway through the film got out of character (meaning that the look of the film itself got cleaned up) and just turned into a typical Tarantino movie. I'll admit Planet Terror was a lot more immediate, but in all honesty, Grindhouse is best appreciated when taken as a whole, fake trailers and all.

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 02:53 PM

I think the fake trailers were the best part of Grindhouse by far. If that had been the whole movie, that would have been incredible.

I remember when it came out opening night, me and my girlfriend and our friend were the only one there. No one else in the entire theatre. That weirded me out. On the other hand, when Basterds opened, it was on two screens opening night and both theaters were packed.

I must say, I really like the idea of Tarantino -- I'm glad he exists. He has balls. No other modern filmmaker would release a movie like Death Proof into theatres nowadays ... then again, no other filmmaker could probably get away with doing something that ridiculous. It's pretty remarkable.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
The only problem I really have with Death Proof is that halfway through the film got out of character (meaning that the look of the film itself got cleaned up) and just turned into a typical Tarantino movie.


that's because the first reel was beat up, but the second reel was in better shape. (obviously not for real, but that's what he was aiming for).

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I must say, I really like the idea of Tarantino -- I'm glad he exists. He has balls. No other modern filmmaker would release a movie like Death Proof into theatres nowadays ... then again, no other filmmaker could probably get away with doing something that ridiculous. It's pretty remarkable.


and I think that's such a big part of what made me love the film, Adam. I love that a movie that really is about as good as something generally buried on cable TV at 2AM was made by a high-profile director, got widescreen distribution, and a major marketing campaign. That's awesome. And I'm glad that you understand/appreciate that aspect of his work.

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 03:26 PM

Of course. I don't hate Tarantino in the least, I think a lot of what I say is misunderstood, because I'm highly opionated on... everything. Obviously, I have watched just about everything he's ever been involved in, I must appreciate some aspect of his work. My thing is, I see him as a really interesting big-name b-movie/exploitation director rather than an iconic, genius director. Still, he has merit.

I like the idea of Grindhouse as an experiment. I wish more directors would do that. What if, for example, Peter Jackson had made the Lord of the Rings movies earlier in his career -- and then made Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, and Dead Alive? How absurd and awesome would that be?

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 03:28 PM

...as for Eli Roth, I actually re-watched all his movies with my friend recently, and I think he is just another average director, with some interesting weird asides. I think Hostel II is WAY better than Hostel, and I think Cabin Fever is actually quite a good comedy.

As a person, though, he seems like a douche.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I see him as a really interesting big-name b-movie/exploitation director rather than an iconic, genius director.


Me too! I guess that's what has kept me a fan for jeez fifteen years?? And maybe that's the genius that I see in him. He's a fan of trash flicks making trash flicks for fans. Eh? It's awesome.

And yeah, I've thought about the Peter Jackson thing too. I wish he would make some awesome crap again. Instead of boring crap. I have a feeling that The Lovely Bones is going to be a lot more Hollywood fluff than say the treatment he gave to Heavenly Creatures.

It's this kind of thinking that made me love Drag Me To Hell. Was it a perfect film? No. Was it great? Not quite. BUT it was pretty sick at parts. And weird. And ballsy when following the Big $ Spiderman trilogy. I'm glad that Raimi made a film like that again. I'm glad he still wants to. I still hope me makes Evil De4d.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
...as for Eli Roth, I actually re-watched all his movies with my friend recently, and I think he is just another average director, with some interesting weird asides. I think Hostel II is WAY better than Hostel, and I think Cabin Fever is actually quite a good comedy.

As a person, though, he seems like a douche.


Finally! Finally Adam!

Yes HOSTEL II is way better than HOSTEL. I've been saying that since opening night of HOSTEL II and nobody seems to get it! Gawd. Thank you.

And yes, CABIN FEVER is a comedy. It's a sick awesome comedy (um, pretty obviously in love with EVIL DEAD II). Was it groundbreaking? Certainly not. Was it a fantastic homage that NEEDED to hit mainstream cinema-goers AT THAT TIME? YES! Awesome. And fun. I think it's great.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.22.2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I think the fake trailers were the best part of Grindhouse by far. If that had been the whole movie, that would have been incredible.



Eli Roth was actually tying to get something like this going. I doubt it'll ever be green lit though.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Eli Roth was actually tying to get something like this going. I doubt it'll ever be green lit though.


yeah TRAILER TRASH. It'll happen. It's like a pet project. Low-budget. I think it'll end up straight to DVD if it does get completed. BUt I think it's an awesome idea.

I wish he'd actually make The Majorettes-- err, Thanksgiving!

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:37 PM

and as far as Roth being a douche, I picture him in real life to be a lot like Grim. He might even have a dog named Dr. Mambo?

Keeping It Simple 01.22.2010 03:38 PM

Last movie I saw was Fight Club. First time I saw it on DVD. It's brilliant.

nicfit 01.22.2010 03:53 PM

Did you notice the glitches? dvds are perfect for frames' stills.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 03:59 PM

Fight Club was the DVD that I bought WITH the first DVD player I ever owned.

Rob Instigator 01.22.2010 04:06 PM

I wish more people would rag on fight club for being the one-trick pony it is, like they do on shamalamadingdong's Sixth Sense.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.22.2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I wish he'd actually make The Majorettes-- err, Thanksgiving!



I'd still love to see a full-length Thanksgiving as well. I hope that's his next project, but Roth is always attached to projects that don't seem to get made for one reason or another.

It's a shame that Hostel 2 bombed, because it's such an improvement over the original. I tried rewatching the first film recently, and fell asleep halfway through. Neither top Cabin Fever however.

NR, Do you enjoy The Rotten Fruit shorts?

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 04:16 PM

Difference is, Fight Club is entertaining. Sixth Sense is one of the most boring films I've ever seen.

Fight Club is the first DVD I ever got too!

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 04:17 PM

 

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.22.2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I wish more people would rag on fight club for being the one-trick pony it is, like they do on shamalamadingdong's Sixth Sense.


I've always thought Fight Club was a great love story.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 04:22 PM

Fight Club is super entertaining. Sixth Sense is one-time was more than enough.

Dr. Eugene, Yeah I thought the Rotten Fruit shorts were funny. I never saw Chowdaheads though. Ohh which reminds me, I heard that Roth actually directed Nation's Pride. I keep meaning to watch it on one of the bonus discs that came with Basterds.

atsonic, weirdsies on the first DVD thing!

Rob Instigator 01.22.2010 05:05 PM

I found fight club tense yet dull at the theater. Watching it at home made me wanna turn it off. I coudl not care less about the characters. just me I guess. It seemed aimed at 13 year olds who are barely beggining to register that the world sucks.

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 05:08 PM

Fight Club is one of the few mainstream films that gave me hope that we were going to start seeing something interesting in the cinemas in the new millenium. Instead, the past 10 years have been the dullest ever for mainstream films.

Keeping It Simple 01.22.2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I found fight club tense yet dull at the theater. Watching it at home made me wanna turn it off. I coudl not care less about the characters. just me I guess. It seemed aimed at 13 year olds who are barely beggining to register that the world sucks.


Fight Club was clearly fantastical escapism for nine-to-fivers.

noisereductions 01.22.2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
Fight Club was clearly fantastical escapism for nine-to-fivers.


have to agree.

Tokolosh 01.22.2010 05:27 PM

Watched Tracks (1977) last night. Excellent.

Is anyone aware that Dennis Hopper is lying on his deathbed?

What a sad way to go:

Actor Dennis Hopper has filed for divorce from his fifth wife even as he’s dying of prostate cancer, reports say.
The 73-year-old Hopper filed papers in a Los Angeles court to split from Victoria Duffy after 13 years of marriage, according to People magazine and the New York Post.
The Post went on to say Duffy has barricaded herself in their California home.
In the court filing, Hopper promises to pay support to the 41-year-old Duffy but insists on joint legal custody of their 6-year-old daughter, Galen. The reports quote sources at the University of Southern California, where Hopper is hospitalized, as saying the disease has spread to his bones and he may have only a month to live.
A friend told The Huffington Post: “Sadly, it’s all about the money and who inherits what. This is about getting Victoria out of the will, nothing more, nothing less.”
In his will, friends say, Hopper leaves Duffy a quarter of his estate, including the Venice Beach property where two of his grown children and their families live, and “an important art collection.”
Hopper revealed in October that he had prostate cancer.


Another link: http://www.newser.com/story/78390/dy...e-divorce.html

Torn Curtain 01.22.2010 05:39 PM

 


Excellent.

Tokolosh 01.22.2010 05:43 PM

^Still need to see that one.
Really enjoyed Sweetie and The Piano.

ilduclo 01.22.2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I found fight club tense yet dull at the theater. Watching it at home made me wanna turn it off. I coudl not care less about the characters. just me I guess. It seemed aimed at 13 year olds who are barely beggining to register that the world sucks.


qft

it's typical stuff from Pahluniak.

Keeping It Simple 01.22.2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Fight Club is one of the few mainstream films that gave me hope that we were going to start seeing something interesting in the cinemas in the new millenium. Instead, the past 10 years have been the dullest ever for mainstream films.


I absolutely agree. Though Memento deserves a shout.

Rob Instigator 01.22.2010 06:04 PM

I read an article that discussed how the disappearance of the "slush pile" at publishing houses, and at movie studio script rooms has completely eradicated the writers that have no representation.
Used to be studios and publishing houses had a small staff whose job was to read unsolicited manuscripts or to read unsiolicited scripts and determine if the content warranted more investigation.
Nowadays (the say due to too much litigation on the part opf writers whose work is suppsoedly stolen by unscrupulous studios and publishing houses) the heads of these businesses will not read a manuscript or a screenplay/teleplay unless they hav a personal relationship wityh the agent of the person who wrote it.

Everyneurotic 01.22.2010 06:11 PM

i do like fight club but i think i don't like chuck pallaniuk, he seems to me that he's trying to be ballard for dummies.

i haven't read anything by him completely yet, i have only seen fc and choke (meh, promised failed).

noisereductions 01.22.2010 07:45 PM

Choke is a great book.

Derek 01.22.2010 08:07 PM

I watched Oldboy again with my girlfriend (it's her favourite movie) and I liked it more than I did the first time. It's got some really great scenes I didn't pick up on the first go.

jon boy 01.22.2010 08:53 PM

inglorious basterds, meh.

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 09:22 PM

Oh yeah, Memento rules! Actually, I really like Nolan in general. Insomnia and especially Following are great.

..Oldboy is okay. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is an absolute masterpiece though. Good director.. I'M A CYBORG BUT THAT'S OKAY and Lady Vengeance are so great too. THirst was alright. Joint Security Area was eh.

atsonicpark 01.22.2010 09:27 PM

 

ariel - 8/10

 

symbiopsychotaxiplasm - 7/10

 

coming apart - 8/10

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.23.2010 05:00 AM

 

atsonicpark 01.23.2010 06:56 AM

I love Happy Birthday to Me. Great atmosphere.

fugazifan 01.23.2010 07:08 AM

shivers
was very cool but far fro my favorite cronenberg

Derek 01.23.2010 09:26 AM

Of course. Shivers is hilarious.


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