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!@#$%! 12.01.2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Neglected to answer: FLYING CIRCUS has been on DVD for quite a while. A decade? Before that, VHS copies had been available. Before that, I was lucky to have a cousin who had a bunch taped from somewhere. Episodes aren't obscure and I'm simply surprised that someone who would enjoy them has yet to see them. That's all.


i don't know if your surprise came across as such-- your suggestions for discovery seemed to be dripping with sarcasm more than shock.

like, not having access to your cousin's pirate tapes or you local video store that closed in 2002 deserves mockery? i find that smug.

but hey, maybe i'm "sensitive." sue me.

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Originally Posted by evollove
Neg repped and blocked.


noooo! my heart. i'm mortally wounded :(

the hedgehog's dilemma wins today

but seriously man, that still looks like a putdown. fuck you twice and let's just move on. ;)

/last word

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
^ what he said minus the neg repping and blocking stuff

I just thought the same thing evillove did. Monty Python = Beatles of comedy.. Shakespeare of comedy. I pretty much just go through life assuming that the only people who don't love MP are the people who hate MP for one reason or another. And a lot of their classic stuff was born on Flying Circus.

I don't personally have the series on DVD or anything either though. No disrespect intended.

Edit: EL's comment also reminded me of that scene in High Fidelity when Rob lists "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as one of his favorite track 1, side 1 songs of all time. And then Barry says something like "How about the Beatles? Or fucking Beethoven?!"

Hah.

be a surprised as you like, but i had wide access to the biggest video rental places in DC and we never saw such tapes. only the movies which i've watched several times. i've always asked around and never saw them.

i need new different cousins. preferrably outside of the 3rd world country where they live, speaking mexican, far from the light.

anyway this is just the first time i find it on a rental. just saw it on amazon and fuck if i'm gonna pay $300 for a tv show.

evollove 12.01.2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!


Ok. You can have the last word.

(Ha! See what I did?)

I've been 100% fucking with you all day, in good jesting fun. We're not communicating well. I'm guessing the problem is that I'm a better person than you in every respect.

btw, did you finish CRISIS IN SIX ACTS? I watched the first episode and got a "good but not great" vibe, but I can see how it could improve as it goes on.

----

I confused Trailer Park Boys with Jerky Boys! Had few WTF? moments. I'll definitely give the first few episodes a shot.

Severian 12.01.2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
be a surprised as you like, but i had wide access to the biggest video rental places in DC and we never saw such tapes. only the movies which i've watched several times. i've always asked around and never saw them.

i need new different cousins. preferrably outside of the 3rd world country where they live, speaking mexican, far from the light.

anyway this is just the first time i find it on a rental. just saw it on amazon and fuck if i'm gonna pay $300 for a tv show.


I swear I wasn't trying to be snarky. I just thought evollove's reply was funny in a "we're laughing together!" kind of way.

Like I said, I don't have that stuff either, never have.

Severian 12.01.2016 12:38 PM

Shouldn't have said anything. Meant zero offense to anyone, but it doesn't really matter if someone took offense. My apologies Symbols.

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Ok. You can have the last word.

(Ha! See what I did?)


yes. it's fine! *cough* chervania! *cough*

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Originally Posted by evollove
I've been 100% fucking with you all day, in good jesting fun. We're not communicating well. I'm guessing the problem is that I'm a better person than you in every respect.


i know you are... for sure all smug liberals are better than me. i'm just a garden variety liberal. thus, inferior. brother, can you spare a dime?

but okay, i'll try to read your ironies with further care and maybe i'll guess the meaning correctly next time. i'll apply myself.

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Originally Posted by evollove
btw, did you finish CRISIS IN SIX ACTS? I watched the first episode and got a "good but not great" vibe, but I can see how it could improve as it goes on.


haven't finished yet, have 2 episodes to go. i've been having a problem streaming amazon video down my satellite antenna lately, so i have it bookmarked for when i'm in faster internets.

up to episode 4 it's okay but not great or satisfyingly good. at times it's a bit too theatrical-- 2 people sitting in a room having a "dialogue", and it feels stilted, and the camera doesn't help because it just sits in the room. kinda like a soap opera. better than a soap opera for sure, and it has some funny lines, but it's missing something--it's not like i'm impatient to watch the rest, although i eventually will. 3 out of 5 i guess, so far.

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it is a "mockumentary" show about the residents of a low-budget tailer park in bumfuck Nova Scotia. The main characters are recidivist criminal lowlife who did not graduate high school and who have to constantly scheme to make money. The first 6 seasons or so are fucking genius shit, very well done, filmed in a very improvisational manner, where the actors flesh out their characters as they see fit. After season 7 they stopped filming on a location and bought out a trailer park to film in so the "look" of it changed a bit. If you have ever known or lived or been a poor person among a lot of other poor people it will hit home like a motherfucker. while it is very funny it is also extremely insightful as it shows the way that the lower-class canadians live.

so much drinking......

thanks dude, i'll add it to my tv show queue

ilduclo 12.01.2016 01:13 PM

a great new Canadian comedy, IMO, is Letterkenny. I've finished season 1 and am now most of the way thru Dirk Gently, it's kind of so/so, I think, Douglas Adams never really did it for me that much.....

Letterkenny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rSBmOgpcDE

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I swear I wasn't trying to be snarky. I just thought evollove's reply was funny in a "we're laughing together!" kind of way.

Like I said, I don't have that stuff either, never have.


lol don't worry man. it was just some shit-talking. let's move on! moveon.org

yeah just sent you pm all good

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
a great new Canadian comedy, IMO, is Letterkenny. I've finished season 1 and am now most of the way thru Dirk Gently, it's kind of so/so, I think, Douglas Adams never really did it for me that much.....

Letterkenny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rSBmOgpcDE


wait, dirk gently is written by douglas adams?

i'll check out letterkenny

damn, so much teevee

--

ETA-- that trailer was funny!

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 04:04 PM

crisis in six scenes, part 2

SO, i just finished it during lunch (it was a long lunch)

overall i'd say it was... "cute." it wasn't really very good but it wasn't bad/unpleasant either. it had chuckleworthy jokes throughout, not a lot of big laughs. if you're a fan of the guy's work this will ring a lot of bells with stuff from bananas to bullets over broadway, etc etc.

overall though like i said the dialogue seemed a bit stilted and i noticed that there was a beat or two between each character. like, really long pauses. i don't know why-- seems like a directorial choice.

the funniest/my favorite character was elaine may, who plays frenchy's cousin may in small time crooks. she's so... peculiar, ha ha ha.

but overall it's kinda... a low blood pressure type of show. jokes/lines repeat too much, scenes moves slowly, jokes are telegraphed, etc. some people might get bored. ah, i really wanted to like it more.

ilduclo 12.01.2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!




wait, dirk gently is written by douglas adams?




 

!@#$%! 12.01.2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
 


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

in my confused brain i mixed it up with douglas coupland-- who is, well, canadian, and i imagined him writing shows--as novelists do now

 


[eta: of course he does TV now: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1194190/ }

too many douglases. like fairbanks.

 


but he wasn't canadian :/

Severian 12.01.2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it is a "mockumentary" show about the residents of a low-budget tailer park in bumfuck Nova Scotia. The main characters are recidivist criminal lowlife who did not graduate high school and who have to constantly scheme to make money. The first 6 seasons or so are fucking genius shit, very well done, filmed in a very improvisational manner, where the actors flesh out their characters as they see fit. After season 7 they stopped filming on a location and bought out a trailer park to film in so the "look" of it changed a bit. If you have ever known or lived or been a poor person among a lot of other poor people it will hit home like a motherfucker. while it is very funny it is also extremely insightful as it shows the way that the lower-class canadians live.

so much drinking......


Ok now I want to see it.

Weird how that works yeah? Years of people screaming OMGWATCHTHISTHING in my face and I feel no need to. Then one paragraph Rob and it's all queued up.

evollove 12.05.2016 10:43 AM

I watched a few TRAILER PARK BOYS. It reminded me of RENO 911: it's amusing and I like the characters, but I keep waiting for big laughs to come and they never do. And maybe I watched the wrong season but it wasn't at all improvisational. In fact, the acting kinda sucks. I liked it okay, but I didn't laugh out loud once.

Rob Instigator 12.05.2016 10:52 AM

it is all improv for the most part. not the improv of a stage sketch comedy show but more like Christopher Guest films.

!@#$%! 12.05.2016 11:03 AM

orange is the new black season 3 has improved over season 2 i think

season 2 was a fucking cartoon-- typical jenji kohan move to turn a great idea into a caricature (e.g. "weeds" which started awesome & ended so pointless & irrelevant--but yes i watched all like a sucker)

the ship seems to have been righted for s3-- good for her/the studio/whoever, so far. though s.5 is about to start lol-- so i'm behind here a couple of seasons

Severian 12.05.2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
orange is the new black season 3 has improved over season 2 i think

season 2 was a fucking cartoon-- typical jenji kohan move to turn a great idea into a caricature (e.g. "weeds" which started awesome & ended so pointless & irrelevant--but yes i watched all like a sucker)

the ship seems to have been righted for s3-- good for her/the studio/whoever, so far. though s.5 is about to start lol-- so i'm behind here a couple of seasons


I strongly disliked season 2. Season 3 got pretty damn stupid too if you ask me. You can see where the "true story" element kind of falls off a cliff and the "make more seasons because it's successful" but takes over. The characters start to act like dramatized versions of themselves (which, of corse, they are.. lol.. but now they seem like dramatizations of a dramatization), and the reality of the story sort of peels away.

I think Season 4 is pretty good. Probably the best all around since season 1.

Severian 12.05.2016 12:20 PM

I've been watching this for the past few days. Took me forever to finally finish the first season (started it when it came out, got sick of all the rapey stuff and didn't watch the last 2 episodes until ... last week. Hah.

 


So much rape!!! Like, gobs of rape and violent sex shit. Blech!! Entertaining enough story, but this show is definitely some low-ass hanging fruit in terms of actual quality.

Hope they do a Cthulu season. They're hashing through all the horror tropes, season by season, and what better way to end it than with the most evil creature in the history of this or any universe? Fuck yeah Lovecraft!

ilduclo 12.05.2016 12:44 PM

yeah, I can't remember what season I tried to watch, but it was the Richard Speck story, I got about 10 minutes into it, then tossed it.

Right now, we're watching and enjoying Humans Season 2.

I'd much rather look at these eyes......

 

Severian 12.05.2016 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
yeah, I can't remember what season I tried to watch, but it was the Richard Speck story, I got about 10 minutes into it, then tossed it.

Right now, we're watching and enjoying Humans Season 2.

I'd much rather look at these eyes......

 


Richard Speck? Wasn't that in the first season? Some backstory based on the whatshisname doctor and killing nurses?

If so I bailed on that shit too, like I said. Too much motherfucking rape and outright disgusting shit for me to willingly take in. I returned to that season, eventually finished it and then went on to the second, but so far I've needed many breaks from that as well. Been watching it with the girlfriend, who really likes it and somehow isn't bothered by rape scenes like I am, and I've just said "fuck this" and left the room to go do other shit a number of times.

I worked from home to get away from that shit. On a *Sunday* when... wh-when... when it wasn't strictly necessary and I totally could have done it all the next day!!!

Oh, the American horror!!!

!@#$%! 12.09.2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I strongly disliked season 2. Season 3 got pretty damn stupid too if you ask me. You can see where the "true story" element kind of falls off a cliff and the "make more seasons because it's successful" but takes over. The characters start to act like dramatized versions of themselves (which, of corse, they are.. lol.. but now they seem like dramatizations of a dramatization), and the reality of the story sort of peels away.

I think Season 4 is pretty good. Probably the best all around since season 1.

i never have liked the main character though her story was interesting on s1. her face annoys the fuck out of me.

i'm enjoying so far (9 episodes as of last night) the various background stories and the skewering of business culture, which is fucking brilliant.

"we need to get law books so they can work on their cases"
"why would you do that...?"

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha

fucking human warehousing investment opportunities

i know what you're thinking: betsy devoss

i know what you're thinking: please keep the politics out of this thread

but how can i? the tv is too good and it gets me to dream about it

Peterpuff 12.09.2016 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
rob you said once you watch trailer park boys, right? i've never seen it or know a thing about it except that it's canadian. what's that about?


A driveway made of hash to avoid getting busted. Some of the best shit I have ever seen. Bubbles is also one of the best characters ever created...maybe just behind Ricky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfq3c4Cf1Fs

I may just be a victim of the hype train, but I really dug this first season of Westworld.

Severian 12.09.2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i never have liked the main character though her story was interesting on s1. her face annoys the fuck out of me.

i'm enjoying so far (9 episodes as of last night) the various background stories and the skewering of business culture, which is fucking brilliant.

"we need to get law books so they can work on their cases"
"why would you do that...?"

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha

fucking human warehousing investment opportunities

i know what you're thinking: betsy devoss

i know what you're thinking: please keep the politics out of this thread

but how can i? the tv is too good and it gets me to dream about it


Yeah, Piper has a Skeletor thing going on in the face area for sure. The characters I really like are Alex, the toothless faith-healer chick (after she stops being insane), Poussé and Gloria.

But sorry, you can't make me talk about Betsy DeVoss. Well, not here anyway.

Severian 12.09.2016 10:28 AM

 


Watched most of this in a single day Wednesday. I had to get up at 4:30 to drive across half the state for an assignment, so my work day was done when I got back at about 2. Girlfriend was home sick, so we plowed right through this. Just one episode to go.

So far it's my favorite season by fucking leaps and bounds. Only ONE actual rape scene! Plus it had a nice female empowerment vibe that was easier for my male with absentee father sensibilities.

Still, there's some gross shit in every season of this show. Non-premium tv has gotten SUPER fucked up since I was a kid. Yowza.

noisereductions 12.09.2016 10:34 AM

my wife has tried to watch every season of AMS, and I've tried to watch a few. We always quit before the mid-point. Just something about that show. Can never keep us into it.

She watched all the Orange seasons, I watched some random eps. She loved it. I liked it.

Sev, are you talking about my girl Taryn Manning? I'm really a fan of her. I think she's a very under-appreciated actress.

I'm watching season 1 of all these CW DC shows right now. I know I know, I'm watching them "out of order." Frankly, I'm sick of the whole "binging" TV shows thing. I miss when things were just on and you watched stuff when it was on. So whatever. It's wrong, but I'm happy.

Arrow is... pretty good. Flash is better. Supergirl, I love. Legends Of Tomorrow feels like a slightly higher than SyFi budget take on Avengers/Guardians Of The Galaxy that feels a lot sillier than the other shows.

I'm also on ep8 of Luke Cage; about to start season 2 of Gotham; and am in the middle of "volume 1" of the Batman animated series right now.

Phew. Lot of stuff. Plus, re-watching Dawson's Creek w/ my wife... only like I don't know, 6 eps in?

EVOLghost 12.09.2016 11:18 AM

Planet Earf!

!@#$%! 12.09.2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Yeah, Piper has a Skeletor thing going on in the face area for sure. The characters I really like are Alex, the toothless faith-healer chick (after she stops being insane), Poussé and Gloria.

But sorry, you can't make me talk about Betsy DeVoss. Well, not here anyway.

ha ha skeletor-- yeah it's that but not just that -- the personality of her character annoys the shit out of me. anyway yeah i like alex too, and the junkie chick, and crazy eyes, and janeway, and the hairdresser lady, and a bunch of others except for the biblethumpers yujjj or the pregnant lady & her psycho mother.

and no i'm not trying to get you to talk about politics here. but this season takes such a critical look at the notion that "private business does it better". business has a fiduciary duty to its shareholders to maximize profit; government, however flawed, can ruled by different goals (e.g. prisoner rehabilitation, as caputo's efforts illustrate). this season is making such a great job of showing precisely that. but okay i'll stop right there.

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Originally Posted by Peterpuff
A driveway made of hash to avoid getting busted. Some of the best shit I have ever seen. Bubbles is also one of the best characters ever created...maybe just behind Ricky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfq3c4Cf1Fs


ha ha ha ha i'm gonna put that in my tv queue

Severian 12.09.2016 01:56 PM

Holy shit I just realized "Red" was Captain Janeway. Wtf?

!@#$%! 12.09.2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Holy shit I just realized "Red" was Captain Janeway. Wtf?


lolwut?

ah ha ha ha

took you a few years!

i hope you also realized that alex is the 70s show redhead yes?

plus a bunch of other people. ponrstache was in a bunch of things including law & orders. poussay was in a credit card commercial with black & white drawings--i think it was amex?

and... anyway yeah. janeway. she made it back from the Delta quadrant after all!

noisereductions 12.09.2016 02:50 PM

and Taryn Manning was in Hustle & Flow, 8 Mile, Playboy...

!@#$%! 12.09.2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
and Taryn Manning was in Hustle & Flow, 8 Mile, Playboy...

pennsatucky is the character i hated the most the first 2 seasons and i wanted her dead & buried lol

season 3 i'm liking her more, she's become reasonable and friends w/ lesbians & others and that fucking donut guy just started being a creepo to her fuuuuck. don't tell my anything though. first time ever i have sympathy for her i think.

noisereductions 12.09.2016 03:10 PM

I won't.

It was different for me going into it because I was like "OMG! Taryn Manning's on this show???" I love her. So I couldn't be annoyed.

Rob Instigator 12.09.2016 03:56 PM

I can't watch that shit. My wife loves the Orange is new Black, but I just don't care.....

I swore off of any TV shows that dealt with police, doctors, lawyers, courts, etc as their main plot devices. I find them to be propaganda to fool the masses of sheep that the legal system, medical system, and police system are A-OK, and that they do their job, and that they save people, and that they FIGHT CRIME, but it is all BULLSHIT. I will not buy into their shit.

Severian 12.10.2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
lolwut?

ah ha ha ha

took you a few years!

i hope you also realized that alex is the 70s show redhead yes?

plus a bunch of other people. ponrstache was in a bunch of things including law & orders. poussay was in a credit card commercial with black & white drawings--i think it was amex?

and... anyway yeah. janeway. she made it back from the Delta quadrant after all!


Baha!

Yeah, of course I knew Alex was Donna from That '70s Show, even though I'm pretty sure that was the worst show of all time. It's one salvation was that it may have taught a couple people how to correctly place an apostrophe when abbreviating decades/years.

And yeah I've seen Pornstache and Piper in lots of shit.

Weird that it took me so long to figure out Janeway though. When that show came on, my father used to refer to her as "Captain Babeway," which baffled me but whatever.

!@#$%! 12.10.2016 10:46 AM

ha! the original babeway was gonna be this one

 


which i've been thinking about just now because the movie i watched last night reminded me of cronenberg's "dead ringers" a lot and found her picture previous to this

anyway she wasn't as young or hot by then (cigarettes kill) but she did the pilot for voyager and it didn't work out--apparently she hated the whole business and her performance sucked (you can see that pilot in various places)

and i didn't really watch the 70s show but the two main girls were pretty-- so, the actual worst show of all time has to be the fucking family guy. which has the mom from the 70s show and a spiritually bankrupt writer

!@#$%! 12.10.2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I can't watch that shit. My wife loves the Orange is new Black, but I just don't care.....

I swore off of any TV shows that dealt with police, doctors, lawyers, courts, etc as their main plot devices. I find them to be propaganda to fool the masses of sheep that the legal system, medical system, and police system are A-OK, and that they do their job, and that they save people, and that they FIGHT CRIME, but it is all BULLSHIT. I will not buy into their shit.

you must have REALLY not been watching, cuz "orange" is the opposite of a show that makes you believe that "the system" works, and it features neither cops, doctors, courts or lawyers (so far as i've seen). so none of that criticism applies.

it actually looks at multiple levels of corruption and incompetence in the penal system, but in a humorous way rather than a grim documentary style. so it's a decent blend of comedy & drama & social criticism, actually. and it gets addictive for the most part.

Severian 12.10.2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you must have REALLY not been watching, cuz "orange" is the opposite of a show that makes you believe that "the system" works, and it features neither cops, doctors, courts or lawyers (so far as i've seen). so none of that criticism applies.

it actually looks at multiple levels of corruption and incompetence in the penal system, but in a humorous way rather than a grim documentary style. so it's a decent blend of comedy & drama & social criticism, actually. and it gets addictive for the most part.


There's a lawyer or two in the first two seasons, but... yeah, they're not exactly portrayed in a positive light. I suppose what'shisface's (guy from American Pie) dad is ethical enough. But on the whole, the show makes it its mission to expose the flaws in the system from as many angles as possible. Nobody ISN'T corrupt. Not the cops in the flashbacks, not the prison guards or that absurd social worker with the white hair.. god I hate that guy.

Especially prisons though. For-profit ones. The longer the show airs, the more the system rots, and the more that becomes clear to the few noble-ish minded people involved (like Caputo).

Rob you should watch before you judge. I don't like every season equally but on the whole, I think the show is very good and also very important because of how it addresses the corruption and greed that fuels the prison-industrial complex, and how it pokes at and comments on commerce and privatization.

Severian 12.10.2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ha! the original babeway was gonna be this one

 


which i've been thinking about just now because the movie i watched last night reminded me of cronenberg's "dead ringers" a lot and found her picture previous to this

anyway she wasn't as young or hot by then (cigarettes kill) but she did the pilot for voyager and it didn't work out--apparently she hated the whole business and her performance sucked (you can see that pilot in various places)

and i didn't really watch the 70s show but the two main girls were pretty-- so, the actual worst show of all time has to be the fucking family guy. which has the mom from the 70s show and a spiritually bankrupt writer


Family Guy makes me laugh :(
Sometimes uncontrollably and for reasons I'm not altogether ok with. But still... brings a certain joy in its own twisted way.

pepper_green 12.10.2016 11:46 PM

too bad Orange is the New Black is boring. you guys watch this junk? and family guy?

junk!! lick and handle my junk, junk.

Rob Instigator 12.12.2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you must have REALLY not been watching, cuz "orange" is the opposite of a show that makes you believe that "the system" works, and it features neither cops, doctors, courts or lawyers (so far as i've seen). so none of that criticism applies.



two sentences. two unrelated thoughts. sorry if you connected them.


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