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evollove 07.30.2018 03:16 PM

^ That sounds straight up dangerous. Was everyone OK? Any passing out?

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MOOD. So slept on. Straight outta Cincinnati. Hi-Tek production.

https://open.spotify.com/artist/71NaLZka57nO0DNfaqYc31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkGqrP0hBU

Rob Instigator 07.30.2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
^ That sounds straight up dangerous. Was everyone OK? Any passing out?

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It was very subdued. Too fucking hot. I have no idea how the groupies/pros manage to wear their hair and makeups and tight synthetic fabric min-dresses. Frankly, most everyone stayed out on the patio until the show began, it was too fucking hot in the bar. RHQ kept the energy up tho

Rob Instigator 08.03.2018 08:08 AM

Gonna blast Travi$ Scott's ASTROWORLD on the way home to check it out

louder 08.03.2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Gonna blast Travi$ Scott's ASTROWORLD on the way home to check it out

His best album in my opinion. Glorious.

Rob Instigator 08.03.2018 09:20 AM

Everyone is talking about Don Tolliver, who guests on track #13 of the Astroworld album. Houston's own. he released a mix tape today. http://2dopeboyz.com/2018/08/03/don-...omack-mixtape/

Severian 08.03.2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
His best album in my opinion. Glorious.


Sounds a lot like everything else by Travis Scott. Kind of a snoozer if you ask me. Nothing as stark or interesting as “Pornography.”

Michaelcap 08.03.2018 11:24 PM

louders hip hop caf VII
 
Vncnt - listen to Kendrick Lamars album. He is the biggest breath of fresh air for modern hip-hop in years.

Severian 08.04.2018 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Michaelcap
Vncnt - listen to Kendrick Lamars album. He is the biggest breath of fresh air for modern hip-hop in years.


Who’s Vncnt?

And everyone who’s going to listen to Kdot here already does compulsively. Rob, for instance, isn’t going near it because it’s not mumbly and from Houston. Noisereductions abandoned Kenny cuz he only has free time to listen to old music.

louder 08.05.2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Sounds a lot like everything else by Travis Scott. Kind of a snoozer if you ask me. Nothing as stark or interesting as “Pornography.”

Really? I liked it a lot.. on my second listen, actually. Thought it was a snoozer on my first listen too.

Severian 08.05.2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
Really? I liked it a lot.. on my second listen, actually. Thought it was a snoozer on my first listen too.


I like a few tracks, but there’s nothing exciting going on here.
“Skeletons” is good, but it sounds like Kanye ghost wrote the verse around the 0:52 mark. That shit is Kanye all over, from flow to word choice to delivery. Just in Travis’ voice.

I just really think trap as a style is one of the most boring goddamn trends in rap history. Maybe if Travis wasn’t constantly repeating the same cadence (ducking everywhere) and peppering every song on every album wth adlibs, maybe it wouldn’t be so goddamn redundant and such a waste of time.

I get that he’s trying to be a curator here. This is supposed to be a big opus. But he shoots hinself in the foot when he limits his rapping to the same goddamn sounds and grunts at the same times with the same cadence and variations on the same beat constantly. It ends up sounding NOT like an opus, NOT like something “big,” but like every other mixtape and crappy forgettable album out there. It’s honestly only slightly more interesting than the album he did with Quavo.

And that cartoon version of his face he loves so much, with the dreads coming out at every angle, just totally undermines his assertion that this is somehow big or different. “Hey look at my dumb little kid face.. take me seriously!”

I loved songs like “Pornography” because they didn’t fall into the mold. They sounded weird and off-kilter. This just sounds like a bigger budget EVERYTHING.

Literally the most interesting part for me two listens in is when he apes Kanye’s flow shamelessly, because at least it’s not “mumble-triplet” *blah!* “mumble-in-triplet” *Yeah!* “mumble-in-triplet” *SQWEE!* or whatever the fuck.

Snore.

Severian 08.05.2018 01:32 PM

Love the Frank feature. It’s not bad... but my god, how much better would it be if Scott didn’t insist on driving the trap thing into the ground.

Don’t appreciate the Drake feature.
Should I’ve been Frank again.

Should always be Frank.

Rob Instigator 08.06.2018 08:26 AM

kendrick lamar's albums leave me wanting. His ideas are ok cool, for a twenty something who ain't lived shit yet. His rhyme scheme is allright, for whiny teenager sounding rapper. the beats he or his handlers choose for him are allright, but nothing that makes me think I should give a shit.

Rob Instigator 08.06.2018 08:30 AM

Re: Astroworld, 50% straight DULL. 90% mid-tempo boring beats, I fear that this is the kind of music that is created by someone whose life is easy, soft, self-absorbed, and with no real connection anymore to what the cutting-edge of his chosen genre is doing. There are some good tracks, but most are bland. His "flow" gets to me sometimes because of the repetitiveness of his auto-tune settings.



I heard nothing on Astroworld that is groundbreaking, or exciting, or even FUN.


Millionaires making hip hop are the fucking worst. Kanye's latest shit sux. Jay Z's latest shit sux. All these fuckers, when they get rich as fuck and start living hyper-boogie lives, their fucking art suffers.

Rob Instigator 08.06.2018 08:32 AM

My disappointment is that Travis Scott was never trying to do TRAP. he is more of a prog-rap producer, his tracks (when they are good, and Travis is a better producer than rapper for sure) are slow, methodical, take time to explore, and always have interesting endings and codas. Nothing on Astroworld matches his previous inventive stuff.


I will re-listen, but I preferred YOung Thugs and Future's SUPER SLIMY! hahahhahaha

Severian 08.06.2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kendrick lamar's albums leave me wanting. His ideas are ok cool, for a twenty something who ain't lived shit yet. His rhyme scheme is allright, for whiny teenager sounding rapper. the beats he or his handlers choose for him are allright, but nothing that makes me think I should give a shit.


You have the most boring taste in hip-hop ever bro.

I don’t get it. Listening to “DNA” doesn’t give you feels, or “The Blacker the Berry” or “The Art of Peer Pressure?” But Future does it for you every time?

He’s a better rapper than anyone you hype. All of the people you hype. Combined. With better lyrics, better beats and a better message and sense of purpose. You basically listen to glam rock over Nirvana.

Severian 08.06.2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Re: Astroworld, 50% straight DULL. 90% mid-tempo boring beats, I fear that this is the kind of music that is created by someone whose life is easy, soft, self-absorbed, and with no real connection anymore to what the cutting-edge of his chosen genre is doing. There are some good tracks, but most are bland. His "flow" gets to me sometimes because of the repetitiveness of his auto-tune settings.



I heard nothing on Astroworld that is groundbreaking, or exciting, or even FUN.


Millionaires making hip hop are the fucking worst. Kanye's latest shit sux. Jay Z's latest shit sux. All these fuckers, when they get rich as fuck and start living hyper-boogie lives, their fucking art suffers.


I’m actually starting to dig it. Some good moments amid the boring ones.

Dude your opinion SUX

louder 08.07.2018 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
kendrick lamar's albums leave me wanting. His ideas are ok cool, for a twenty something who ain't lived shit yet. His rhyme scheme is allright, for whiny teenager sounding rapper. the beats he or his handlers choose for him are allright, but nothing that makes me think I should give a shit.

Really? Kendrick "ain't lived"? He's been through so much though..

louder 08.07.2018 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
My disappointment is that Travis Scott was never trying to do TRAP. he is more of a prog-rap producer, his tracks (when they are good, and Travis is a better producer than rapper for sure) are slow, methodical, take time to explore, and always have interesting endings and codas. Nothing on Astroworld matches his previous inventive stuff.


I will re-listen, but I preferred YOung Thugs and Future's SUPER SLIMY! hahahhahaha

Young Thug and Future aren't millionaires??

Severian 08.07.2018 06:31 AM

 

Severian 08.07.2018 06:38 AM

Louder, let him be. Like Tom Hardy says, that shit is bait, pure and simple.

Looking at the modern rap landscape, we’re in an era where Kendrick’s mastery of not only the craft but the culture is undeniable. I don’t think there’s ever been an era in hip-hop where one artist stood out so definitively as the greatest. Not even in 2Pac’s absolute prime... not even when Eminem was blowing white kids away with how white hip-hop could be (and also spitting some genuine fire from time to time).

I say this as a dude who has not NOT listened to Kanye West in more than five years, but still... Kendrick is the king as far as rappers go, and saying otherwise is nonsense baiting.

One only has to look at Kendrick’s rhyme schemes to appreciate his mastery of craft, and one only had to listen to how good he makes halfwit producers like Dr. Dre and Mike Will Made It sound to understand his supremacy in the ‘10s.

My guess is that Rob has still never listened to a full Kendrick album.


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