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king_buzzo 11.11.2007 04:29 PM

hmm sounds pretty interesting!

auto-aim 11.11.2007 06:22 PM

I just bought a blue box.... couldnt resist.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 11.11.2007 06:27 PM

My next pedal is officially a pulsar. Going to get it for my bday. It's what I asked for. :D

Then I'm going to learn how to play tremelo by Mission of Burma and play it again and again and again.

krastian 12.02.2007 08:18 PM

Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a metal/distortion pedal that has a good "brutal" and "jun jun jun" sound. I don't know a whole lot about all the different pedals out there, so I was hoping that y'all might have better first hand knowledge about what is out there and that you could point me in the right direction.

So far I was thinking of:

Digitech Death Metal Distortion (has a good sound from the samples)
DOD Death Metal FX86
Boss Metal Zone
Line 6 ToneCore Uber Metal (seems like it does a lot, but is it any good?)


Again, I don't know much about these so if you have any suggestions about any of the above pedals or ones I didn't mention, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

CHOUT 12.02.2007 08:52 PM

Just got this today for a decent price...couldn't pass it up, I've always wanted a Thunderbird
 

soapbars 12.03.2007 11:49 AM

ive got a fair few new pedals since i last posted in here,

a biyang 'analog' delay my girlfriend got me for my birthday,

an EHX bass micro synth

a boss PS-2 pitch shifter/delay, this:
 


and my girlfriend is getting me a big muff for christmas, oh happy days!

after i get the big muff ill post a pic,

king_buzzo 12.03.2007 12:25 PM

^ nice.

I need a goddamn looper of anything fun for noise, electro, shoegaze... any advice?

CHOUT 12.03.2007 03:06 PM

I used to have the boss PS3, never tried the PS2. It was pretty fun and had a lot of features.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.03.2007 03:31 PM

I asked for a trem for my birthday from my sister but instead got a hamster and a habitrail. He's a pretty cool hamster.

I've got a Stereo Pulsar in my amazon cart with all my xmas shopping as well, but I gotta wait a week or so for some more money to come in to hit the buy button.

Style 12.03.2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
^ nice.

I need a goddamn looper of anything fun for noise, electro, shoegaze... any advice?


i've also been looking for a looper.

from all the ones i've looked at, this would be my personal choice.

digitech pds-8000

Stijn 12.03.2007 05:19 PM

I think I'm gonna order a effect pedal (first one) for christmas. I'm looking for some spacey/delay effects.
Any recommendations?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.03.2007 05:46 PM

There really isn't a pedal looper that is quite the whole package yet. All of them have their drawbacks.

Mostly in that you can't manipulate them as well with your feet.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.03.2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stijn
I think I'm gonna order a effect pedal (first one) for christmas. I'm looking for some spacey/delay effects.
Any recommendations?


price range?

Stijn 12.03.2007 06:01 PM

100 and something, maybe gonna look out for a second handed one

uhler 12.03.2007 08:25 PM

what's the difference between the new big muff and the old classic big muffs?

Cantankerous 12.03.2007 10:29 PM

good shit




 

scott v 12.04.2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
good shit








 

ah the loop station, anyone have or tried the newer version which is a more compact traditional boss style pedal?

scott v 12.04.2007 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhler
what's the difference between the new big muff and the old classic big muffs?


mostly the type of transistors used, either germanium or silicone?, op-amp or IC (Integrated cicuit design), and true by-pass switching are the major difference between the early versions of the bigmuff and today's reissues...

some links:

Russian Sovtek Big Muff parts-upgrade and rehousing projects
Informative articles on both EH Big Muffs and Sovtek Big Muffs
New and vintage Big Muffs

krastian 12.04.2007 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a metal/distortion pedal that has a good "brutal" and "jun jun jun" sound. I don't know a whole lot about all the different pedals out there, so I was hoping that y'all might have better first hand knowledge about what is out there and that you could point me in the right direction.

So far I was thinking of:

Digitech Death Metal Distortion (has a good sound from the samples)
DOD Death Metal FX86
Boss Metal Zone
Line 6 ToneCore Uber Metal (seems like it does a lot, but is it any good?)


Again, I don't know much about these so if you have any suggestions about any of the above pedals or ones I didn't mention, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

Nobody has used a freakin' distortion pedal?? Come on now.

uhler 12.04.2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
mostly the type of transistors used, either germanium or silicone?, op-amp or IC (Integrated cicuit design), and true by-pass switching are the major difference between the early versions of the bigmuff and today's reissues...

some links:

Russian Sovtek Big Muff parts-upgrade and rehousing projects
Informative articles on both EH Big Muffs and Sovtek Big Muffs
New and vintage Big Muffs


thanks!

king_buzzo 12.04.2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
good shit






 


fucking hell i do need a loop station.

soapbars 12.04.2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
Nobody has used a freakin' distortion pedal?? Come on now.


ive got no experience with any of the pedals you listed,

but if you want a distortion id recomend a rat, ive got the vintage RI and its the benchmark i judge all other distortions by.


its great although its not really a 'metal' pedal if thats exactly what you want, it can be plenty noisey and brutal though,

try one out,

krastian 12.04.2007 04:28 PM

Yeah, I was thinking about a Turbo Rat, but I think I want something a little more "metal" sounding.

_slavo_ 12.04.2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
good shit





 


I've had this one for almost half a year now. It's a neat little thingy, can do loads of crazy shit. I don't use it as a guitar pedal though. I hook up various stuff with it, a discman, a shortwave radio or a mic.

_slavo_ 12.04.2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
Nobody has used a freakin' distortion pedal?? Come on now.


You can't go wrong with Boss Metal Zone.

krastian 12.04.2007 04:35 PM

I'm def. considering it!!

_slavo_ 12.04.2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
I'm def. considering it!!


I'm not an expert, however I've seen that you can get pretty twisted sounds out of it. Just to compare, I have the Boss Overdrive/Distortion 2, and it's horseshit against the Zone.

krastian 12.04.2007 04:41 PM

Cool cool.

scott v 12.05.2007 12:48 PM

I have a DOD Death Metal and i like but i don't really use it in my "guitar rig setup" and i haven't tried the Boss Metal Zone for a comparison test. The DOD Death Metal pedal is a high gain distortion (VERY LOUD!) w/ scooped mids for that metal tone but it can be really noisey which is why its a standard or staple used in alot of "noise artists setups/rigs" i've read alot of positive things about it especially for the price and that in comparison to the Boss Metal Zone it is on par or even better (but i can't say that for myself).

I basically use my Death Metal pedal in my parallel "noise setup" outside my guitar effects chain. which is just a feedback loop that also includes a Danelectro Octave Distortion (French Toast?). i created a "looper/Y-box" from the shell of a broken Digitech PDS pedal that i gutted only using the 1 input jack and 2 output jacks (as to create a feedback loop one output goes to the first pedal input in my chain) its abit more complicated that just say a Y-adapter because i added 2 volume pots to control the volume (and frequency rolloff) of output 1 and output 2. so one output pot actually controls volume which is nice because often in these types of feedback loops the gain is much higher than normal gain on guitar, the other output pot manipulates the feedback frequency and volume providing a rich array of wild sounds and tones. I guess technically what i call the "looper/y box" is a glorified poor man's "stereo volume pedal". i guess if anyone is interested i can provide a schematic on this thing though i'm still trying to tweak it.

soapbars 12.07.2007 06:20 PM

:)

 

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.07.2007 06:36 PM

Android ring mod, how do you like that? I tried out the antenna, thought it was like a broken speaker fuzz ring mod

soapbars 12.07.2007 06:43 PM

the android is nice, the ring mod is pretty sutble, i mostly use it for the tremolo mode, you can get some really lofi glitcy synth stuff out of it, which is great,

i had it first in my chain for ages but put it last today after a friend gave me his old reverb pedal, reverb into ring mod tremolo is good good good.

lowlife 12.08.2007 03:56 PM

turbo rat is metal as hell

scott v 12.11.2007 10:19 AM

If you have a new russian big muff reissue (the black one) and know basics of soldering and ability to trace the wiring i recommend making it true by-pass because its not too difficult to do and its worth it... did it to one of mine (as i have another that i'm leaving as stock) also changed the LED from red to yellow and while i was at it i replaced that cheapo stock 9 volt battery clip that tends to fall apart. at some point replacing those awful plastic input and output jacks will be next because those are horribley cheap and are prone to cracking and breaking if the nut is overtightened. (i had to replace the input jack with a switchcraft to my other big muff because of this, though wiring it to the board was a little tricky.)

my two favorite sites for reference:
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/
http://www.diystompboxes.com/

Savage Clone 12.11.2007 10:24 AM

The best distortion tone I have gotten to date is from my Mesa V-Twin 3-channel tube preamp. I don't think they make them anymore (a shame), but they were in plentiful supply for many years, so finding a used one couldn't be too difficult.
 

scott v 12.12.2007 01:13 PM

For those who have a Deluxe Memory Man and want to do a mod to increase the delay time (from the stock 550msec. and doubling it to a whopping 1100msec. or 1.1sec.!) i did it using a submini spdt (or dpdt) switch to alternate between the doubled and normal settings and its pretty damn fine if you ask me, some slight distortion but i can live w/ it for my purposes! a nice mod that is a better option than tinkering w/ the trimpots and potentially putting the unit into a nonusable state without sending it out for repair.

also there is a mod that gives more speed variation on the vibrato... may or may not attempt this one as i don't really use the vibrato much on this unit.

check here:
http://germaniumsky.com/gsky/ideas2.html
refer to the photos on the right.

for the delay mod, you'll need:
a spdt or dpdt switch
wire 22 gauge or better stranded or solid/stranded combo (solid is not really recommended but can be used)
0.1 microfarad (u) capacitor (i don't recommend ceramic, use metallic/film)

CHOUT 12.12.2007 06:54 PM

cool, i want to get my memory man to have a longer time, it's only around 370ms right now.

scott v 12.12.2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHOUT
cool, i want to get my memory man to have a longer time, it's only around 370ms right now.


only 370ms? were the trimpots adjusted? i'm really afraid of tweaking mine without having a meter to work with all it takes is a slight adjustment to make a change or make the whole unit not really work...

CHOUT 12.12.2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
only 370ms? were the trimpots adjusted? i'm really afraid of tweaking mine without having a meter to work with all it takes is a slight adjustment to make a change or make the whole unit not really work...

yeah, i matched it up with my dd20 to get the exact delay...i don't wanna fuck with the trimpots...im tempted to send it to howard davis and have him soup it up for me.

scott v 12.14.2007 08:13 AM

well, the mod i explained above is very simple and reversable if you want even though you can switch from the normal delay to the lengthened one, all the parts are easily obtainable even at RADIO SHACK (they are pretty horrible though). the only thing is drilling a 1/4" hole into the top of the unit which i didn't do because i used the hole where the power slider switch is because mine broke awhile ago and i just wired the power directly from the board to the jack. i guess if i were to send it out i'd have all these things done:

op amp upgrade (especially the input, to a TL072 to reduce distortion on delay)
switchable lengthened delay
switchable vibrato speeds (w/ a rotary switch)
infinity switch on the feedback knob (where you can alternate from the feedback setting to max.)


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