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ilduclo 10.11.2016 09:52 AM

I'm guessing there's still quite a few left hooks being held for for the Don given the off chance he rises again, I do think he's down for the count though.

Not usually a fan of George Fwill, I think he has a number of "rhetorical flourish" books and a group of attractive young assistants to help with the thesaurus and with the awful "fwig", but this is pretty well gold.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.4bd52ee2e52b

evollove 10.11.2016 10:26 AM

Yeah, conservative folks like Will and Krauthammer have been beating on Trump for months. Traitors! They shall pay. Oh yes, they shall pay dearly!

Honestly, as bad as it's gotten for Trump, I'm STILL not predicting anything. Could still be an insanely tight race. You never know.

I mean, that Trump toddler was so fucking cute!
---
This Trump tweet scared me:

It is so nice that the shackles have been taken off me and I can now fight for America the way I want to.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...42546878578688

No more Mr Nice Guy? Holy shit.


(Damn. Got sucked in again. I think I have an addiction problem.)

Severian 10.11.2016 10:51 AM

I'm having a non-stop full on anxiety attack over this shit. Starts the moment I wake up every day, and follows me into my goddamn nightmares when I go to sleep at night. Trump signs line the roads here in the bumfuck nowheresville. They're EVERYWHERE. I've counted something like 3 Clinton signs.

Half of my Facebook friends are posting "Killary" rants. The dems included. Most of them go for the safe "I hate them both, but.." angle. Which is a cop-out.

How can anyone think of Trump as a realistic and viable presidential option? After everything he's said and done. It took ONE over-enthusiastic rally speech from Howard Dean to drive a stake trough the heart of his campaign. Ben Carson needed only to demonstrate shitty knowledge of foreign policy... ONCE... and he was effectively done.

How is this motherfucker still standing?

It's a terrible feeling to want to curb stomp half the people you know. This is by far the most unsettling election year of my life. And I remember Reagan and Bush. I'd suck Ronald Reagan's dead ass dick if it would end Trump's candidacy. And H.W. is a goddamn Saint by comparison.

What's also awesome is that I work for a newspaper and cover city and local politics, so I can't publically express my opinion on this without risking severe fallout. I mean, technically I'm allowed to, but it would be stupid. Town's too small.

I guess I'll settle for Trichotillomania.

!@#$%! 10.11.2016 10:59 AM

you're gonna need a sharpie for your eyebrows!

lol @ "the shackles"

briefly, he still stands because he panders to real white working class concerns.

he of course doesn't offer a real viable solution. but he panders. so his base will not desert him.

bumfuck nowheresville is exactly where he's popular--whenever there are closed steel mills, factories, mines, etc., little hitler will be among them.

if the democrats win this election, they'll have to really start working on regaining their foothold with uneducated whites.

--

eta. the other thing is that it's true that as things become more equal and whites lose their ancestral privileges, resentment will grow.

say you used to make $40 an hour in a factory and grope the cafeteria lady whenever you wanted, now you make $8 in macdonalds and your boss is a young latina who is going to college in the evening... you're gonna be sore as fuck for this.

evollove 10.11.2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I'm having a non-stop full on anxiety attack over this shit.


How is your state faring? Might make you feel better. Or worse.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/

(Dang New Mexico! You're so sexy.)

Severian 10.11.2016 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
How is your state faring? Might make you feel better. Or worse.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/

(Dang New Mexico! You're so sexy.)


Wow... made me feel better actually.

But I'm not sure I trust the data. My home state is a solid, hard blue. My current state is a sky blue. I don't see evidence of this anywhere in my area though. Trump signs are everywhere, as I said. People are staying willfully ignorant of policy issues and are conveniently ignoring everything Trump's said and done in public.

Then again, I do have a neighbor who joked about putting a "nigger" through a wood chipper. Perhaps I have relocated to the real deal valley of the shadow of death. Racism and sexism are just "life" here. So normal for so many people that I honestly believe they don't believe it exists.

On the upside, Newsweek is pummeling Trump, taking a very obvious stance. They're beginning to publish articles about what "will" happen "when" Hillary becomes president.

Not that Trump supporters read Newsweek, or Time, or the NY TIMES, Washington Post, or anything for that matter. They get their news from conservative radio jocks and Facebook memes.

Severian 10.11.2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
why, thank you

 


My mother owns a home in rural NM. Bought it when she retired from teaching (before realizing retirement was a fantasy, and going back to work for the government). It's lovely out there. She actually just returned from a vacation at her property there, and said that the Trumpfever bullshit that's overtaken the Midwest is nowhere in sight in NM. I'm jealous. If I could find work out there I'd be fucking out of here. Much as I love my job, and being close to Chicago, I can't stand living in a community where people can say make nigger jokes in their backyards without being Fucking curb-stomped.

God I sound hateful.

!@#$%! 10.11.2016 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
My mother owns a home in rural NM. Bought it when she retired from teaching (before realizing retirement was a fantasy, and going back to work for the government). It's lovely out there. She actually just returned from a vacation at her property there, and said that the Trumpfever bullshit that's overtaken the Midwest is nowhere in sight in NM. I'm jealous. If I could find work out there I'd be fucking out of here. Much as I love my job, and being close to Chicago, I can't stand living in a community where people can say make nigger jokes in their backyards without being Fucking curb-stomped.

God I sound hateful.

fucking shit. nigger jokes??? you live among rednecks. here we have only reznecks.

but no, really, we have rednecks too.

after trump started his bullshit i was selling some merchandise for weekend fun a some cowboy looking bitchman blanco asked me how did i sneak into this country. i laughed to his face and said the mayflower.

of course other people who were around the crowd found him really stupid and embarrassing and apologized for him. i told them thank you but i'm not affected by the stupid words of uneducated fools.

(plus, had he started some real shit i had a knife in my pocket and a gun in the truck haa haaa haaa. i kept this to myself though.) (hey, i'm just a rezneck--by adoption anyway).

evollove 10.11.2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
(plus, had he started some real shit i had a knife in my pocket and a gun in the truck haa haaa haaa. i kept this to myself though.) .


You people are so violent.

VOTE TRUMP

!@#$%! 10.11.2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
You people are so violent.

VOTE TRUMP


ha ha ha!

yeah i'm a 2nd amendment patriot

 


don't mind being well-regulated though. i'll register and take mandatory classes.

Severian 10.11.2016 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
fucking shit. nigger jokes??? you live among rednecks. here we have only reznecks.

but no, really, we have rednecks too.

after trump started his bullshit i was selling some merchandise for weekend fun a some cowboy looking bitchman blanco asked me how did i sneak into this country. i laughed to his face and said the mayflower.

of course other people who were around the crowd found him really stupid and embarrassing and apologized for him. i told them thank you but i'm not affected by the stupid words of uneducated fools.

(plus, had he started some real shit i had a knife in my pocket and a gun in the truck haa haaa haaa. i kept this to myself though.) (hey, i'm just a rezneck--by adoption anyway).


I'm not sure how much you're joking exactly, but here's how much I'm joking: 0.
Yeah, nigger jokes. Like, a lot of them. Also weird black-label racist country music playing from backyard stereos. So.. more nigger jokes. And people driving pickups with MASSIVE confederate flags flapping in the breeze.

That's how shit is here. There's also a stable liberal contingent among the upper class here. "green" and eco folks... but they care more about fracking than social justice. They don't know what it's like to be poor, so they don't even mingle with the "nigger joke" lot.

Yes, I live among rednecks.
It's extremely uncomfortable. My last car was vandalized because it had an Obama sticker.

I'm not built for this. I'm from fucking western Washington! I was raised by women in a multicultural city with two gay uncles. How the fuck did I end up here?! Oh yeah I took a ton of drugs and washed out of grad school. Haaaa!

:(

ilduclo 10.11.2016 04:21 PM

western Wa? Me, too. I got moss on my north side, and avoid the "big light in sky"

Severian 10.11.2016 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
western Wa? Me, too. I got moss on my north side, and avoid the "big light in sky"


Yeah, that's where I grew up. Been all over at this point, but the Pacific Northwest is my home. Lived in... Seattle, Bellingham, Tacoma. Came out Midwest cause I'm apparently a goddamn moron.

!@#$%! 10.11.2016 05:07 PM

i forgot to say, i wasn't joking about having a knife. i live (and work a bit) in a ranch, so a knife in the pocket is an essential. actually two: one multitool and one knife-knife.

the gun in the truck part is also not a joke. we've called 911 so many times without response that we've given up on it. in my state, your vehicle is considered an extension of your home, so it's okay to have weapons in it. besides, it's actualy an open carry state. i don't open carry though, because i think that's inviting crazies to pick a fight. discretion is best.

but yeah, if the kkk comes after me i'm ready. i have to say though, this is the only time this has ever happened to me. it's definitely the trump effect i think. people hear shit on talk radio and start repeating their stupid brainwash. all mexicans are rapists, all muslims are terrorists, let's beat some random fucker with a turban, etc etc. pathetic.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2825861

dead_battery 10.11.2016 05:49 PM

happens to me to, racist comments. crims at the door trying to rob the place. i am prepared.

pepper_green 10.11.2016 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
I'm not sure how much you're joking exactly, but here's how much I'm joking: 0.
Yeah, nigger jokes. Like, a lot of them. Also weird black-label racist country music playing from backyard stereos. So.. more nigger jokes. And people driving pickups with MASSIVE confederate flags flapping in the breeze.



my god man, I don't know whether to believe you or feel sorry for you. I live in south Georgia and I've never experienced anything as drastic as this. of course, i'll have the cynical naysayers that'll try to debunk my statement like "oh yr just used to it and sticking up for where you live" but, it's true.

but see, here's the kicker and what's really scary: where I live blacks are the majority, so that's got a lot of positive advantages over a complete non-white hate fest. it's like the south has learnt to balance out it's racism behind closed doors and vehicles turning jokes into light Pryor imitations. it's here, most definitely but, now I see it might be less indigenous to the south which isn't the majority view point world wide because of slavery and the dreaded Civil War "ugh" redneck reputation.:rolleyes:

what's so scary is that this kind of outrageous attitude you described about race hate is happening in mostly white majority sections of the country far away from the Dixie line which, in my opinion, makes these kind of people even more cowardly and naive. it's like hating samoans for no reason what so ever for the simple fact they've never met one. fucking crazy!!!

I went into drunken depth on this in the hip hop thread about isolated, secretly racist whites but, you guys heartbreakingly suggested I might be a racist while me trying to prove racism might just be more prevalent elsewhere. prob, because Im a lame brain drunk jackass. feeling frisky because of the weather with no humidity.

evollove 10.11.2016 07:45 PM

Bits of this entire thread has made me realize that racism isn't a regional thing. It seems there is an equal amount of racism in Georgia, Ohio, Vermont and California.

The problem isn't the place
Obviously the problem is black people.

pepper_green 10.11.2016 07:56 PM

the irony is that you might deeply truly feel that way while randomly tossing it off as sarcasm. clever.

evollove 10.11.2016 08:05 PM

That's not irony. That's being a dick.

Irony comes in many forms, one of which is saying the opposite of what one really thinks.

I can't think of any examples right now.

pepper_green 10.11.2016 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
That's not irony. That's being a dick.

Irony comes in many forms, one of which is saying the opposite of what one really thinks.

I can't think of any examples right now.


so you really thought racism was a regional thing? I don't believe that. that's a lie while on top mocking me being a real racist. yes, you were being a clever dick.

PLips 10.11.2016 08:47 PM

I nominate Hightop Hoolahan and his running mate Duncan Basquetz for the presidenential ballot. They are both allstars and tall dribblers for the New York Nigerians African Roundball Team

PLips 10.11.2016 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLips
I nominate Hightop Hoolahan and his running mate Duncan Basquetz for the presidenential ballot. They are both allstars and tall dribblers for the New York Nigerians African Roundball Team


Boomshackalack Booyakasha! Cracka Ethics Committee! This satire is a Solid Obsidian Obelisk!

Ps suck my balls

PLips 10.11.2016 09:28 PM

This summer I saw this white guy with cerebral palsy by the Tim Horton's shoot up on Radioactive Testosterone from a Nigerian Nuclear Plant and he mutated into Black Dynamite!

He did 100 pushups in his wheelchair and then beat the Scarborough Somalians roundball team in a 5 on 1 Roundball game 139-97. It was tied at the end of the 4th quarter but he downed a dairy cow burger the size of a briefcase after regular play and downed a trophy of milk, then planted a dozen slamdunks to win the game

There were wheelchair skids all over the court! The hoes were all over him.

24 hours later the Nigerian testosterone left his system and he was a cerebral palsy white guy by Tim Hortons again. What a Country!

pepper_green 10.11.2016 09:36 PM

lol. if that's not pro Black Lives Matter positive propaganda then I don't what is.

Severian 10.11.2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
That's not irony. That's being a dick.

Irony comes in many forms, one of which is saying the opposite of what one really thinks.

I can't think of any examples right now.


Hah.

evollove 10.12.2016 12:58 PM

Did you hear?

Yesterday, Trump told supporters at a rally to make sure to vote on November 28. For real.

Like an asshole, I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt. "Maybe it was windy and it just sounded like 28" or something. There's video. Nope. Pure idiocy, clear as a bell.

Severian 10.12.2016 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Did you hear?

Yesterday, Trump told supporters at a rally to make sure to vote on November 28. For real.

Like an asshole, I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt. "Maybe it was windy and it just sounded like 28" or something. There's video. Nope. Pure idiocy, clear as a bell.


Yeah, woke up to that news this morning. And I say, hey, Trumpers and Trumpets, you heard the man! Do what he said for the love of all that is holy!

I have to say, though... I'm not in a good place with any of this. I tried to really stay out of it for the longest time, and to take every article I read with a grain of salt. I refused to panic, assuming, naturally, that it would never go this far. But now I'm sweating bullets. I have FiveThirtyEight's electoral college forecast projections saved on the home screen of my phone, and I'm following them on all the social media sites. So I scroll through a handful of key states every half hour or so, and the amount of blue I see is never enough to quell my anxiety.

There isn't enough blue in the world to do that.

Not when I get Facebook alerts all day from idiots in my lie, praising Trump, with like 150 likes, and a comment section full of shameful hyperbole about what a cunt Hillary is. Jesus Fucking Christ man.

I was thinking yesterday... if my boss found out that I'd bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, she'd fucking fire me on the spot. I'm nothing special, but it would be hard to replace me at this point... and that wouldn't matter. She'd probably tear up my contract and tell me to lawyer up, with the full backing of everyone in the company.

Imagine what would happen if you were applying for a job at the post office and you said that publicly? Would you get hired? Fucking hell no you wouldn't. An indispensable pediatric brain surgeon might be able to get away with that. But not anyone I know. I'll bet you'd have a hard time getting a job at fucking McDonald's with something like that hanging over your head.

WHY THE FUCK IS ANYONE STILL RED? The man's being indicted on a child rape charge for fuck's sake!!! CHILD. RAPE.

And there are millions and millions of people out there who somehow think he's the man who needs to be the leader of the free world, despite all this, and his complete and utter lack of experience.

Uhhh a-DUHHHH!!! What the fuck?! Is the fucking world on Fucking THORAZINE?! What the goddamn hell?! Bill Clinton was told he didn't have enough experience to be president and he was a two-term Governor! People laugh (if they aren't idiots) or throw tantrums (if they are idiots) about Kanye West's ludicrous comments about a white House bid.... BUT WHATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE? How can the people who support DONALD TRUMP be insulted by the idea of Kanye West running for office? Why the hell not?! WHICH IS IT?! I don't understand!!!

I feel like every scandal that promises to be his Achilles heel is going to just fade away. I feel like anything could happen. I feel like the blue on those maps is a trick. I don't trust our intelligence enough to be comforted by it.

And even if he loses, he's made hatred okay again. Militias will pop up. Hillary will get shot or something awful will happen. This wretched place is infected by him now. And I can't see how the coming months and years are going to unfold without this leading to one massive disaster or another.

Severian 10.12.2016 06:27 PM

Apparently "Trump-induced anxiety" and -- even potentially psychosis -- are, like, actual THINGS now. Psychiatric diagnoses, informal as they may be. I believe it. I think I might have it myself.

Ok back to the maps

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.12.2016 07:19 PM

i like that all the racists are outing themselves, i mean people like myself have always looked kind of like assholes for always talking about racism and now we seem almost prescient though its more like reality is just more exposed now. same with police brutality, its not new, its just being more widely exposed.

i as always, look forward to the upcoming fight when Trump loses, and he will lose, and they make 2009 look tame and civilized. now, i don't think its 1860 or something that crazy, but we are mos def deep in the late innings of a societal culture war

evollove 10.12.2016 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
i like that all the racists are outing themselves


I concur. I like to know who they are, what they believe and who they hang out with. In situations like this in the past I gave props to the FBI for keeping a sharp eye out. They seem to not like right wing extremists which is cool with me. (But leave the left wing extremists alone pigs!) Now they don't have to.

LifeDistortion 10.12.2016 09:18 PM

So today there was this map stating that if only women voted Hillary would win by a landslide, and then they did the same stating that if only men voted Trump would win, only I question that, because that's implying he would win black voters and most latino voters, and I'm not so sure he would. Latinos for whatever reason do tend to vote Republican, but would they vote for the man who wants to have deportation runs to round up illegal Mexicans?

evollove 10.12.2016 10:32 PM

"A big problem?" That might have true when you typed it, but in the time since I think other roadblocks to a win have come up.

Is this the end? Really?

Severian 10.12.2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
"A big problem?" That might have true when you typed it, but in the time since I think other roadblocks to a win have come up.

Is this the end? Really?


Wait, what happened? Fuck! I watched an hour of Netflix with my girlfriend and missed something.

Never. Again.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.13.2016 12:01 AM

from my experience Republican Latinos fall into a few categories.. Catholics.. Cubans.. jack ass middle class Chicanos who have beef with Mexicans..

greenlight 10.13.2016 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
There's video. Nope.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BLeG89aF...by=superdeluxe

greenlight 10.13.2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Yeah, woke up to that news this morning. And I say, hey, Trumpers and Trumpets, you heard the man! Do what he said for the love of all that is holy!

I have to say, though... I'm not in a good place with any of this. I tried to really stay out of it for the longest time, and to take every article I read with a grain of salt. I refused to panic, assuming, naturally, that it would never go this far. But now I'm sweating bullets. I have FiveThirtyEight's electoral college forecast projections saved on the home screen of my phone, and I'm following them on all the social media sites. So I scroll through a handful of key states every half hour or so, and the amount of blue I see is never enough to quell my anxiety.

There isn't enough blue in the world to do that.

Not when I get Facebook alerts all day from idiots in my lie, praising Trump, with like 150 likes, and a comment section full of shameful hyperbole about what a cunt Hillary is. Jesus Fucking Christ man.

I was thinking yesterday... if my boss found out that I'd bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, she'd fucking fire me on the spot. I'm nothing special, but it would be hard to replace me at this point... and that wouldn't matter. She'd probably tear up my contract and tell me to lawyer up, with the full backing of everyone in the company.

Imagine what would happen if you were applying for a job at the post office and you said that publicly? Would you get hired? Fucking hell no you wouldn't. An indispensable pediatric brain surgeon might be able to get away with that. But not anyone I know. I'll bet you'd have a hard time getting a job at fucking McDonald's with something like that hanging over your head.

WHY THE FUCK IS ANYONE STILL RED? The man's being indicted on a child rape charge for fuck's sake!!! CHILD. RAPE.

And there are millions and millions of people out there who somehow think he's the man who needs to be the leader of the free world, despite all this, and his complete and utter lack of experience.

Uhhh a-DUHHHH!!! What the fuck?! Is the fucking world on Fucking THORAZINE?! What the goddamn hell?! Bill Clinton was told he didn't have enough experience to be president and he was a two-term Governor! People laugh (if they aren't idiots) or throw tantrums (if they are idiots) about Kanye West's ludicrous comments about a white House bid.... BUT WHATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE? How can the people who support DONALD TRUMP be insulted by the idea of Kanye West running for office? Why the hell not?! WHICH IS IT?! I don't understand!!!

I feel like every scandal that promises to be his Achilles heel is going to just fade away. I feel like anything could happen. I feel like the blue on those maps is a trick. I don't trust our intelligence enough to be comforted by it.

And even if he loses, he's made hatred okay again. Militias will pop up. Hillary will get shot or something awful will happen. This wretched place is infected by him now. And I can't see how the coming months and years are going to unfold without this leading to one massive disaster or another.


one email from recent leaked Podesta emails batch by Wikileaks refers to a new phenomenom I found really interesting. it is being reffered to as a celebrity politics.

 


 



seems like dirty old tricks in campaign are still working out best. scandals and closet secrets.

interesting observation...celebrity politics...maybe lot of people are attract to it, same like with celebrities.

!@#$%! 10.13.2016 12:48 PM

where is the big illuminati alien reptile conspiracy in that email? that email makes perfect sense.

you think trump is collapsing because dirty tricks and lies and shit? he's strangling with his own tongue and dying by his own deeds, the motherfucker.

S.O.R.O.S.-I didn't make him stiff contractors, insult minorities, abuse women, tell a lie every 20 seconds, dress in shitty shiny suit, praise dictators, shit on his own party.

meanwhile something good here for those with reading comprehension:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.af6f2e7f5bee

greenlight 10.13.2016 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
where is the big illuminati alien reptile conspiracy in that email?

I am not sure what are you reffering to. :cool:

!@#$%! 10.13.2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
I am not sure what are you reffering to. :cool:

this thing that dirty old tricks/ scandals/ closed secrets are working best.

i mean-- clinton is ahead. is it on the basis of dirty old tricks? is that your claim?

Rob Instigator 10.13.2016 01:23 PM

Politics = dirty tricks


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