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Count Mecha 08.03.2010 03:28 PM

^My favorite Miyazaki hands down. Untouchable. I don't think it drags at all, in fact I feel like the ending it kind of rushed. Fantastic movie.

Rob Instigator 08.03.2010 03:54 PM

good stuff either way man.

viewtiful alan redux 08.03.2010 03:56 PM

Yeah Nausica kicks ass.
Favorite miyazaki movies:
1.Princess Mononoke
2. Castle of Cagliostro
3. Spirited Away

atsonicpark 08.03.2010 03:59 PM

Definitely drags, but it's my favorite film by him too. I find a lot of his stuff boring. I've seen everything he's done and I just... I dunno, I guess he's one of those people who even people who don't like anime enjoy watching. But I love anime and I don't really watch the kinda stuff he does. I like either super heavy stuff (Grave of the Fireflies) or supersurreal stuff (Cat Soup, Mind Game, etc)... I think Satoshi Kon is good at balancing both. The Damon Packard live action short remake of Naussiccaa is amazing, btw..

fugazifan, it doesn't matter what order you watch those Antonioni's film. Definitely see Red Desert if you can.

Rob Instigator 08.03.2010 03:59 PM

I am running through the miyazaki's on netflix.

I have yet to watch

Porco Rosso
Castle of Cagliostro

atsonicpark 08.03.2010 04:03 PM

 

permanent midnight - 5/10

You know what? Ben Stiller is possibly the worst actor alive. He's not even my most hated actor or anything. But everything I've read about him suggests that he's a huge egomaniac asshole with all kinds of disorders.. okay, whatever, right?... but it blows my mind that he's allowed to be a dick to everyone when he consistently makes shitty films.. The only thing good he's ever done was his making of Cable Guy..

He acts the same in every movie he's been in. This is not a comedy, but he acted pretty much like he does in all of his "comedies", which is to say, not funny, because he never acts "funny" in his comedies either.

Anyway, this movie is about the drug addict who made that Alf show, and is pretty much what you'd expect about this kind of stuff. Stiller is insane and sweating and writing and the direction is interesting at times (lots of jump cuts) but the movie goes nowhere and does nothing.

Rob Instigator 08.03.2010 04:08 PM

I too hates me some Ben Stiller, but I will grant that he is effective (not good, but effective) in roles where he is playing the straight man.

I know you don;t like tennebaums, but he was perfect in that, exactly as neurotic and anal as the character needed, and not trying to be funny.

and in Tropic Thunder, which I know you don't like too much. he directed it and that is as close as he will ever get to a masterpiece! ha! I laugh so much at that movie. soooooo much...

BUt when Ben Stiller is supposed to carry the funny? MASSIVE FAIL

atsonicpark 08.03.2010 04:10 PM

I think Tropic Thunder is really good actually. Which is strange considering I hate EVERYONE in it, except Robert Downey Jr. But it's genuinely funny at times, and clever. I actually like Zoolander alright, love Cable Guy, and quite like Reality Bites. So, strangely, I kinda like the movies he directs...

Anyway, the best reason to watch Permanent Midnight is this scene where a german girl fucks Stiller and goes, "I'M FUCKING A JEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

fugazifan 08.03.2010 04:36 PM

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Definitely drags, but it's my favorite film by him too. I find a lot of his stuff boring. I've seen everything he's done and I just... I dunno, I guess he's one of those people who even people who don't like anime enjoy watching. But I love anime and I don't really watch the kinda stuff he does. I like either super heavy stuff (Grave of the Fireflies) or supersurreal stuff (Cat Soup, Mind Game, etc)... I think Satoshi Kon is good at balancing both. The Damon Packard live action short remake of Naussiccaa is amazing, btw..

fugazifan, it doesn't matter what order you watch those Antonioni's film. Definitely see Red Desert if you can.

ive seen red dessert (need to rewatch it) blow up a few times the passenger and lavventura. its just that lavventura la notte and leclisse are considered some kind of trilogy. but you say that it doesnt matter?
oh, and, how bad is zabriski point? from the trailer it seems to have an easy rider meets jodorowski feel to it.

Count Mecha 08.03.2010 05:00 PM

Any of you Miyazaki fans see this?


 


When Nausicaa was first ported over here, it just got mutilated. They changed so much of it, cut scenes, changed the names, the plot. It's pretty much a different movie, out of control really. Miyazaki was devastated.

Anyway, haven't really caught any movies lately, just been watching Dexter.

Jeremy 08.03.2010 05:07 PM

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He acts the same in every movie he's been in. This is not a comedy, but he acted pretty much like he does in all of his "comedies", which is to say, not funny, because he never acts "funny" in his comedies either.



I feel the same exact way about Adam Sandler, he plays the exact same character in every movie and it's never even remotely funny. I don't like Ben Stiller too much either, but as Rob pointed out he has his merits. Adam Sandler gives us nothing and has never given us anything.

~Jeremy~

Rob Instigator 08.03.2010 05:10 PM

adam sandler was even terrible when he was playing Theo's friend on the cosby show!

atsonicpark 08.03.2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan
ive seen red dessert (need to rewatch it) blow up a few times the passenger and lavventura. its just that lavventura la notte and leclisse are considered some kind of trilogy. but you say that it doesnt matter?
oh, and, how bad is zabriski point? from the trailer it seems to have an easy rider meets jodorowski feel to it.


It's not really a trilogy, the films aren't connected except by themes, and with similiar titles.

Zabriskie Point is a laughable mess, almost unwatchable at times, but still interesting in a weird way. It just goes on too long. It's this whole anti-consumerism, anti-American thing, and it just... drags and drags... seems to be a weird collage of all of his films combined...

Identification of a Woman is one of my favorites by him, but no one ever talks about that one...

atsonicpark 08.03.2010 07:05 PM


 

slime city - 10/10

Been into this movie since I was like 14... FINALLY replaced my DESTROYED vhs copy I probably watched 100 times with one of the nicest, cleanest little dvd's ever, that shock-o-rama released... I cannot BELIEVE how well they cleaned this movie up... anyway, for fans of Henenlotter.. Street Trash... Evil Dead 2... and Body Melt... this movie is great.. since this was one of the first horror films I ever loved, I thought this was what the whole genre was going to be about, weird bodily fluid paint splatters and weird ass talking decapitated heads and shit... unfortunately, the "absolutely fucking insane low-budget with tons of weird effects" genre is very very small...


 


 


 


One thing I will say is that this movie had no following whatsoever when I first joined imdb, I was the 2nd reviewer for it, and there were 30 votes.. and I just looked and there are 15 reviews, 240 ratings, and the message board is packed. THere's also a sequel now?! What the hell? So, I'm glad people are finally starting to pick up on this classic!

noisereductions 08.03.2010 08:08 PM

^I really need to get that one.

chicka 08.04.2010 11:25 AM

How can you mention how bad Stiller is and leave his butt buddy Owen alone? The only Sandler film I can watch is Waterboy thank God some real actors showed up to carry it for him. I cried when I saw how he ruined Permanent Midnight as I had read the book ahead of time and was hopping for something special.

chicka 08.04.2010 11:27 AM


 


6/10 they actually made it sympathetic toward Nixon. I remember it live and I sure didn't feel sorry for Nixon

Rob Instigator 08.04.2010 11:31 AM

fuck Nixon.

I watched this yesterday. Very funny and weird and at times infuriatingly odd.
9/10


 

noisereductions 08.04.2010 11:34 AM

Permanent Midnight sucked.

I'm okay with Stiller sometimes. I actually like Zoolander a lot as just a really dumbass silly movie. I have a few like that. Joe Dirt's another. Shrug.

I find Owen Wilson funny personally.

Stiller is always hit or miss. I liked him in Meet The Parents though.

atsonicpark 08.04.2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chicka
How can you mention how bad Stiller is and leave his butt buddy Owen alone? The only Sandler film I can watch is Waterboy thank God some real actors showed up to carry it for him. I cried when I saw how he ruined Permanent Midnight as I had read the book ahead of time and was hopping for something special.


Owen Wilson is easier to ignore.

They both SUCK ASS.

Count Mecha 08.04.2010 01:42 PM

Owen Wilson rules in Minus Man. Can't take that away from him.

Ghostchase 08.04.2010 01:50 PM

 


OH, MY BUDDHA

8/10

Just another random Japanese movie I stumbled upon. Loved it.

TheFoxBen 08.04.2010 04:12 PM

 


8/10. Not only one of the best Batman movies I've seen but also one of the funniest movies I've ever seen ! The plot is so ridiculous it's actually awesome... I laughed my ass off during some scenes (such as the famous bomb scene... And the fight on the boat !) God dammit, what a great movie.

Rob Instigator 08.04.2010 04:14 PM

I love when they rehydrate the United Nations delegates and teyr are all mixed up in languages and Batman and Robin figuire "fuck it, maybe this is for the best" and sneak out the window!!!! ha ha!

TheFoxBen 08.04.2010 04:26 PM

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I love when they rehydrate the United Nations delegates and teyr are all mixed up in languages and Batman and Robin figuire "fuck it, maybe this is for the best" and sneak out the window!!!! ha ha!


Yes dude !!! This movie is just full of classic moments... That United Nations thing was just brilliant...

Rob Instigator 08.04.2010 04:33 PM

the bomb scene is truly inspired lunacy

TheFoxBen 08.04.2010 04:44 PM

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the bomb scene is truly inspired lunacy


Actually one of the best scenes EVER MADE. I mean it.

atsonicpark 08.04.2010 06:05 PM

Yeah, the Batman movie rules. I have the entire Batman 1966 show on like 15 dvd's..

Antagon 08.04.2010 07:31 PM

 


Piece of crap! - 3,5/10

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.04.2010 09:41 PM

 


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I loved this film, but then again it was based entirely on the concept we psychedelics are deeply familiar with, "the Fear" and I was hooked. It took me three weeks to go to the theater, but thats because I have been to the theaters all of three times in the past 8 years, and this was well worth the trip. It will go down as one of my all-time favs once I get the DVD..

You are ridiculously correct on the writing! Its like the first two Terminator series, everything is looped together at crazy pieces and the films resonates on a million levels..

I especially enjoyed the fact that in the end it was a psychedelic story about a dude on the rebound, clinging to a lost past, and threading that idea into a serious mind fuck about the reality of reality. I love it!

I could see all the Dark City influences Nolan mentioned, and I really liked that it was not drenched with way-to-obvious computer graphics.. it struck me in the vein of late-80s to early-90s sci-fi, much more subtle than overwhelming and relying on the psychology as much or more so than the visual imagery! pure brilliance!



I think it left the psychedelic mind fuck ending open, as I always thought from the beginning, that the entire FILM was a hallucination/vision quest, and that NONE of it was real, and the ending was just a continuation of the beginning, a free-associative loop into infinity, the cruelty of what some of us have experienced, "the Fear"


atsonicpark 08.04.2010 10:21 PM

Glad you liked, my ex-girlfriend and her fat loser boyfriend both decided it was "kinda lame" since they're both extremely simple stupid people who dress up like anime characters and think Family Guy is mindblowingly hilarious so we got into a hilarious mini-argument about Inception's merits on facebook.

Inception rules.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.04.2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Glad you liked, my ex-girlfriend and her fat loser boyfriend both decided it was "kinda lame" since they're both extremely simple stupid people who dress up like anime characters and think Family Guy is mindblowingly hilarious so we got into a hilarious mini-argument about Inception's merits on facebook.

Inception rules.


honestly I was wondering to myself, what do straight people think when they watch this? I mean, do people who have never taken mushrooms or acid or both ever question the very reality of reality? Do they get that aspect of the film? Are they intuitively aware of the fear?

 

Count Mecha 08.05.2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
honestly I was wondering to myself, what do straight people think when they watch this? I mean, do people who have never taken mushrooms or acid or both ever question the very reality of reality? Do they get that aspect of the film? Are they intuitively aware of the fear?


Plenty of those college philosophy classes tackle that kind of topic. I consider myself a fairly straight person (never done any kind of drug ever, never even smoked a cigarette and only drank once) but I like to think I'm fairly expansive. That very issue about the physicality of reality and the nature of the possible parameters or definitions is one of the things I enjoyed most about the movie. I can't imagine alot of more straight minded people thought as deeply about it as the movie explored, but I'm sure some did.

Recently watched:

 


Certainly very fun, and it can't be faulted in the slightest for the straight out mindless ridiculousness that the movie is full of. A quality zombie movie that is written and catered to the comic-con/xbox generation that at least shows that the zombie genre is still capable of being interesting. So as a zombie movie, it was very fun and enjoyable, as a movie movie though while still being good, it certainly had a hollow feeling. Out of the roughly four characters that inhabit the movie, two of them (both girls) were severely one dimensional. Easily Woody Harrelson is the life of the movie. He's the only thing that makes it truly enjoyable. Fun stuff.

 


I don't even know what to say about this one really. I would've loved to have read some of Simon's poem to see what drove people to chaos or suicide and see why it was so equally hated and loved. Loved it when he vomited on that girls ass. Lots of weird moments, not many sweet ones. A strange exploration into what it means to be a writer and what quality actually is. Parker Posey is amazing. Fantastic movie.

noisereductions 08.05.2010 07:47 AM

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yeah but Emma Stone is awesome.

viewtiful alan redux 08.05.2010 11:49 AM

 

9/10

atsonicpark 08.05.2010 12:11 PM

Fargo is one of my favorite movies ever.. masterpiece.

Zombieland was actually kinda good.

noisereductions 08.05.2010 12:40 PM

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Zombieland was actually kinda good.


I liked it waaay more than I expected. Jess Eisenberg fit the role well. Emma Stone rules. And Bill Murry is mf'ing BILL MURRAY!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.05.2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Mecha
Plenty of those college philosophy classes tackle that kind of topic. I consider myself a fairly straight person (never done any kind of drug ever, never even smoked a cigarette and only drank once) but I like to think I'm fairly expansive. That very issue about the physicality of reality and the nature of the possible parameters or definitions is one of the things I enjoyed most about the movie. I can't imagine alot of more straight minded people thought as deeply about it as the movie explored, but I'm sure some did.









Yes existentialism goes into the subject to some depth BUT, can a person who has never actually and directly experience the fear truly empathize with it beyond an intellectual curiosity?

Count Mecha 08.05.2010 01:57 PM

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Yes existentialism goes into the subject to some depth BUT, can a person who has never actually and directly experience the fear truly empathize with it beyond an intellectual curiosity?


Probably not. Admittedly it's a stab of ignorance on my part. While I understand the issue and at maybe brief random moments in the dead of a lonely night or in a deep existential conversation, I'll consider it more deeply. But I'll probably never truly appreciate the nature of the question and what it means.

Either way:


 

viewtiful alan redux 08.05.2010 02:04 PM

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Fargo is one of my favorite movies ever.. masterpiece.

Zombieland was actually kinda good.

Yeah, it was excellent. I was kind of doing some stuff for my school next year while watching so I wasn't fully attentive. I intend to watch it again soon.


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