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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.05.2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
if you knew how big a nirvana fan i was ... seriously.


I never know anything with you, you fluctuate to much. I just respond to whatever you're saying in the here and now.

dead_battery 04.05.2014 12:58 PM

just ask. im an open book. concealing a blank fucking page.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.05.2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
just ask. im an open book. concealing a blank fucking page.



 

I am not beck

Derek 04.05.2014 04:39 PM

Wow, they invited MEAT PUPPETS on stage with them? UNDERGROUND KINGZ!!! Hey buddy, Pearl Jam invited The Frogs on stage with them, doesn't give them any sort of cred.

Also please stop posting horrible memes.

dead_battery 04.05.2014 04:53 PM

there was a guy wearing a frogs t-shirt who was caught on to catch a predator.

chris hansen has so much cred for inviting him on stage, man.

#supporthescene #UNDERGR0UND4LIFEZ #DIY #independent_art #fuckcorporaterock #ihatejustinbieber #punk #nirvanachangedmylife #05/04/14 RIP KURT WE WILL NEVER FORGET #ima90skid

dead_battery 04.05.2014 05:05 PM

pretty sure kurts dead ghost would prefer we supported underground music that exists now

they were a cool band, and i love the raincoats and loads of the bands they bigged up (not all of them though).

dead_battery 04.06.2014 07:47 AM

earth are a good band

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.06.2014 12:17 PM

I don't know if you're being serious or not so I'll just agree, because I dig earth, but haven't checked out the recent stuff, I like the early drone shit.

dead_battery 04.06.2014 12:18 PM

no im not joking. i like earth.

heard this?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.06.2014 12:25 PM

No, it was interesting, I'm going to have to check out some other of those. I like the early earth drone because it doesn't have any electronic music, all guitars, but I am getting more into electronic aspects of music. However, the only Egypt related music I got is Egyptian Lover

dead_battery 04.06.2014 12:29 PM

that link i posted is a cover of earth.

i was big into drone for a while, and it def had a resurgence for a few years there around 07/08. although its kind of limited.

dead_battery 04.06.2014 12:42 PM

here's a really cool way to remember kurt

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.06.2014 12:49 PM

I was talking about the Egyptrixx link.. I definitely was digging the earth links, including checking out the newer earth you posted.

Rob Instigator 04.07.2014 08:57 AM

I love to rock to Bleach, and half the tunes on Nevermind. I am not a fan of In Utero, maybe dig 1/4 of it. I do not like Unplugged.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.07.2014 10:28 AM

In Utero is the best part!

EVOLghost 04.07.2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I am not a fan of In Utero, maybe dig 1/4 of it.



yo seriously?

THis is my favorite of the 3 studio albums!

Rob Instigator 04.07.2014 10:46 AM

I find several songs on In Ute to be near note for note riff-rips of stuff on Bleach.

I also find it to be the least thrilling of their output. in terms of the rush I get while listening to it.

Rob Instigator 04.07.2014 10:48 AM

I like how Bleach rides the bass, how Krist's bass is the propulsion for all the songs, with Kurt's guitar as the shredder.

dead_battery 04.07.2014 11:05 AM

you can hear the burn out death drive on in utero.

if you listen to the very last bits of music he did - the unreleased jams and live fragments - he had got to a weird place where he was oscillating between EXTREME noise jams with garbled nonsense yelp vocals and really sweet happy light songs like do ri me.

he was getting so intense that i think he realized the bands commercial appeal was going to dwindle, and he was terrified about that.

really sad story.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.07.2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
you can hear the burn out death drive on in utero.

if you listen to the very last bits of music he did - the unreleased jams and live fragments - he had got to a weird place where he was oscillating between EXTREME noise jams with garbled nonsense yelp vocals and really sweet happy light songs like do ri me.

Yup, I think In Utero and Unplugged perfectly reflect those two conflicting sounds that Kurt was exploring in 1993 for his post-Nirvana music. It was I think his best, he broke out of those "formulas" that began to define Bleach/Nevermind era Nirvana, and much like with the San Antonio Spurs, formulaic shit gets boring as the spontaneity is sucked out like a soul. Nirvana WAS fun, and its clear that Kurt wasn't having fun anymore in the spotlight.

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he was getting so intense that i think he realized the bands commercial appeal was going to dwindle, and he was terrified about that.

Here is where I think the irrationality of Kurt's extreme drug habit and the insanity that is Courtney Love pushed him over. I never though that the "suicide note" was anything more than a letter of resignation, and perhaps after getting high for days Kurt got too depressed rather than excited. I don't think he was all that interested in commercial success with his music, yet was also clearly thinking about what Courtney wanted. It was her that pushed Kurt to start to get more artistically isolated from Krist and Dave, and in particular it was her who pushed Kurt into those bullshit contracts where he got 75% of In Utero and other materials.. Everybody around Kurt was totally surprised and even worried all the more when he began to push for that through lawyers of all people! He lawyered up yo!! A lot of people around him of course really just though it was a reflection of his staggering drug habit, he was known to pay schmuck prices and was doing a lot a day, and the worst thing for an addict is the possibility of a meal ticket which can support an extended drug habit. Looking at what Courtney did with the Nirvana material AFTER his death, it seems quite clear and obvious that all that shit in 1993 with the lawyers was HER. So really, maybe Kurt wasn't scared of losing out on commercial success or acclaim but rather on how that in particular would piss off Courtney Love. This is not to feed into any kind of conspiracy, rather, to point out that their marriage was toxic.

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really sad story.

Exactly!

A love your analysis. I've never understood how folks don't like In Utero because it seemed to reflect that evolving, experimental aspect of Kurt's music which first reared its head into view on Endless, Nameless. In Utero is a FIERCE record. It is trying to bridge chaos with that poppy harmony and riff structure that was trademark Nevermind. The noise jams I think were promising, Kurt was expanding his ability to find sound within layers of distortion and feedback and you see glimpses of this on the 1993 tour and In Utero.


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