Word of warning to those who've quit... My father was several years free of both booze and alcohol until one day he took a sip and a drag.

The booze made a comeback that lasted a couple of years, in poorly managed secret, but he eventually got back off the sauce. But the cigarettes never caught on. He smoked one cigarette fourteen years ago, while he was drunk, and it haunts him more than the lengthy alcohol relapse ever did.

He still thinks about it, still has cravings regularly. He considers it one of the biggest mistakes of his life, that single cigarette. Nevermind the alcoholic bullshit that turned him into a worthless father. The cigarette keeps him awake at night.

So... y'know... Leave the hacking and coughing and stinkin and dying to US, you guys. At least when you back peddle on booze or heroin you have oblivion and the warm embrace of death to look forward to.

Oh you never "quit" or ever become a "non smoker" rather you're simply "not smoking"

I haven't smoked in almost nine years but in many ways i still consider myself a smoker. I know that its not impossible that at some point in my life i might smoke again. I don't want to and i hope not to but i understand i have so permanently changed my neurochemistry and psychology that i can never and never will be the same as a person who has never smoked.

And like i told yall, i also still have cravings regularly.

I don't get your story. He had one cig which caused a relapse?

Or he had one cigarette, and felt a lifetime of guilt over that one?

I've been having a hard time giving up scorpion tails.

http://www.odditycentral.com/news/sm...addiction.html

it's the second-- hence the absurdity and the point of the story

per the tale, the guilt is ongoing


being a self in the world is a massive pain in the ass

damn, good luck to all of you!! I found it incredibly hard, but am really glad I got off them.

1 cig many years after quitting smoking, on the same night he hopped off the wagon. Relapsed on the booze, but not on cigs. Yet it is the cig that haunts him to this day.

My father is a fucked up and deeply flawed man.

'This be the verse'

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

Philip Larkin

I've missed you man.

not having kids is not enough

we need to obsolesce trad biological reproduction completely so noone can
reproduce

it will happen in the future as the bio-body is obsolesced by technical reproductive apparatus that produce offspring that can out-compete it for resources but we should all help make the process as fast as possible.

no life = no problems

You're a weird guy, bro.

im just a radical lesbian in a mans body

good luck to you! really, I mean it.

me, im way too wild to quit. I wish I could but, nothing works unless I go to jail or turn into some basement dweller.

really, nothing works for me unless I have tons of money. being rich and level headed is all that will do and that whole thing is kinda a paradox. so im fucked.

on the bright side....everyone can cut back. now that's fairly easy.

I've told this to my girlfriend the other day....she doesn't doubt me.

so you're in the middle of week 3, or thereabouts--

how is your brain circuitry holding up at this point?

uhm... would it be right to assume that no news is bad news?

im gonna guess yes :(

Ha! Actually, for reasons I have trouble giving myself, I started smoking one or two a day. Started after 8 days or so of none.

Either:

1.) Since "cutting down" was the overwhelming advice before quitting entirely, I'm doing okay. I mean, I haven't returned to 20 a day. No wish to either.

2.) I failed altogether.

I don't feel too bad. I lived through eight days nicotine-free no problem, so I can go back. I was actually planning on "re-quitting" starting tomorrow. Really, the smokes I've been having aren't so wonderful. And I really think that for me, two a day fucks with my head even more than none. What a silly plant.

Thanks for asking.

Im glad to are coming to realize its gonna take a mixed approach. Remember it took months and years to become a smoker so logically it won't just stop in an instant transformative moment

cutting down might be yr only option evollove until you're prepared to quit. that's not such a bad thing so don't be hard on yrself. it's an addiction. it takes time.


look, me myself, I smoke more when working and cut back or eliminate it totally when im home. while at work, if my first thought tells me I can go another hour without a cig, then I do. then, sometimes i go two hours or more. surprisingly, first thought is the best thought. never doubt yrself. go with it. take it naturally and don't force yrself to quit. you are going to die anyway so no need to speed or slow it down but, you do have a say so. kinda like american voting.

think of it more as an habit than an addiction. that's what I do. the addiction part will remind you anyway because you are.....addicted but, there's a trick to it. to cutting back at least. quitting is the hard part.