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atsonicpark 04.23.2008 04:51 PM

Uh... what?

Anyway:

 

That's more fun.

Rob Instigator 04.23.2008 04:53 PM

she did look fine in the cannonball video though

atsonicpark 04.23.2008 04:56 PM

She has a nice voice.

I like when her voice breaks in "Oh".

Toilet & Bowels 04.23.2008 05:43 PM

i think mountain battles is very good & the best record the breeders (or the pixies, or the amps) have ever made, i'm confused as to why everyone else seems to hate it.

!@#$%! 04.23.2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Uh... what?

Anyway:



 

That's more fun.


a picture? that's no fun.

Toilet & Bowels 04.23.2008 05:53 PM

this song is proof of the breeders funness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEDR-RkAhZc

sarramkrop 04.24.2008 03:07 AM

I haven't listened to this yet. Thanks Pauly, I will give it a shot today.

Has anyone ever seen The Breeders live? Good fun all around, Kim Deal is a real stage animal and puts on a show like no other. When they played the Astoria a few years ago it was one of the best gigs I ever went to.

The Pixies are better, though, no contest.

SonicBebs 04.24.2008 03:17 AM

The Breeders can be fun, Flipside is fun, Tipp City (amps, i know) is fun, Safari is fun, Fortunatly Gone (bah bah bah bah) is fun. Mountain Battles is not fun but like i said its full of Minimalism and whatever way you look at it, Minimalism is not fun. Its beautiful but its not fun.
But who wants 'fun' anyway? I'd rather have warmth.
Argueing about Music is fun

SonicBebs 04.24.2008 03:18 AM

I saw them in Camden last week. Excellent gig

PAULYBEE2656 04.24.2008 05:42 AM

i saw them in 1994 or 5. around last splash tour and yeah, it was good jovial indie frolicks and bad jokes about the irish and guns and bombs.... WE ARE IN DUBLIN YOU EEJIT KIM!!!!!! fuckin amerians!

Andrés 04.27.2008 07:29 PM

I really liked the album, maybe it has too many mellow songs, but that's ok

koolthing78 05.02.2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBebs
Its a beautiful, Minimal album. It's the album i wanted them to make, its warm and human and has their personality all over it. Couldn't give a shit what anyone else thinks about it obviously but to answer the question, i really really like it. It sounds like nothing else around. really good


Thank you!! This is basically a more concise and understandable version of something I wrote in an earlier thread after the leak. Sure, nothing on this album jumps out as "look at me! I'm a great song!" But I think that sort of thing is exactly what Kim was railing against to begin with. If I may quote a portion of one of my myspace blogs (sorry about the off-topic beginning, but I promise it morphs into something relevant):

"* And I was supposed to get an early night so I could be refreshed and ready to get caught up on lectures today, but this documentary about Van Gogh and Gaugin totally sucked me in. I had *no* idea about the unhealthy dynamic between the two, and how Gaugin was an arrogant, money-grubbing, syphilitic ass-hole. And while I knew about Van Gogh’s ear thing, I never realized just *how* insecure and fragile he was, which gives his paintings--and his insistence on authentically documenting the moment (as opposed to Gaugin, who faulted him for not "painting from memory" (and incidentally, "Starry Night"--done in an asylum--was his answer to this))--an added sense of immediacy and brilliance. It’s like the Breeders vs. the majority of artists: while the songs are important, it’s just as important to understand the exact moment or set of circumstances that the artist’s work--their response to life around them--took place in. Music recorded flawlessly in a sterile, sound-proof environment lacks any connection to the reality of the moment. So what if "Bang On" sounds like it was "recorded in a box under the stairs"--maybe it was. Wouldn’t that have been kind of fun? And then when you listen to it, you can almost imagine being there at the time, hearing all the flaws, giggles, and scrappy brilliance that make it particular to that moment, impossible to reproduce."

Plus, I recently (April 11th) lost my partner of 9 years to a drug overdose. Even before it happened, this album was to me both the epitome of a "drug album" and an "anti-drug album," which in itself I found incredibly intruiging. The night it happened, I had listened to the album as I smoked my joint, and "Night of Joy" and "We're Gonna Rise" summed up exactly what both myself and Matt were going through (respectively). And to anyone who thinks this album lacks musicality, just listen to "Spark": weird chord changes abound, and it bounces back and forth between musically jarring (suggestive of the lightning-struck power lines she's describing), and eerily serene (as she sings how "clouds were bruised when the day broke"). While I am normally not the type to make sweeping generalizations about others' musical tastes, enough of it has been done from the opposite camp that I feel within my right to say that anyone who can't at least appreciate this album for the intelligence and thought that went into it is a short-sighted dolt who really doesn't deserve to be offering opinions on music EVER. (So there! :b)

d~rek 05.03.2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Did Pod ever get issued on vinyl?

yup. i found it at a thrift store for 50cents

greedrex 05.03.2008 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vulva
Haven't heard the album, but I heard a few tracks when I saw them a month or two back. I can't really remember them, but I remember being entertained throughout their set even on the newer stuff.


Also, The Pixies fucking sucked, The Breeders are tolerable.


ha ha , yeah good joke; Pixies sucked mmm ha ha
irony irony

samuel 05.03.2008 05:58 PM

This band is great. Kim, Kelley, Mando, and Jose work well together. Mountain Battles has been my favorite album released in a while. Plus, I admire that it was recorded all wave. At the moment, my favorite songs are Spark and Night of Joy. Istanbul has a funky feel that I like too. I cannnottt wait to see them at the 9:30 Club.

batreleaser 05.03.2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d~rek
yup. i found it at a thrift store for 50cents



thats fucking rad.

pod is my favorite ablum out of the pixies and breeders. its pretty weird sounding at times. that and surfer rosa are the best records kim deal has been involved with imo.

luckynumber9 05.03.2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d~rek
yup. i found it at a thrift store for 50cents


Lucky!

BootsyGraham 05.04.2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d~rek
yup. i found it at a thrift store for 50cents


Aww! So cool. I wish I could find it for 50 cents let alone on vinyl.

My favorite Breeders album is probably Pod or Title TK. I think that Title TK is their most solid but Pod has my favorite songs by them. The first half of Last Splash is solid as fuck though. I haven't heard the stuff by the Amps yet but I still like Mountain Battles.

I just saw them at Coachella this year and I was sort of dissapointed. I guess I expected them to be as solid as Sonic Youth at Coachella last year and they weren't; that's not really a fair comparison though. But when I saw The Jicks the next day and had the same expectations, they were almost as good... So fucking solid. That new Jicks album is amazing. I really need to hear the Silver Jews because anything that Malkmus touches is awesome.

greedrex 05.04.2008 03:03 AM

listened to last splash just a week ago ,ou of nostalgia. doesn't bring back any memories, but i found it FRESH
Pod is also really nice.
Think it went downwards as from TITLE TK; nice but lacking some of the old vibe.
mountain battles is MEH
love the artwork though

Bicorn Halfelven 05.05.2008 12:05 AM

I totally love Mountain Battles.

Definitely in my top five this year, dont' need to hear the rest. Kim's vocals resonate with me so wonderfully, I couldn't imagine life without the Breeders. Last Splash was my introduction to Kim as a youngin', and the fascination blossomed from there.

As much as I love Last Splash, I think Title TK is my favorite. Everything on that record sounds so close, personal and intimate to me. "Off You" is a stone cold jam.

Mountain Battles ended up delivering everything I wanted from the Breeders and more and I look forward to finally seeing them at the end of the month (still kicking myself for skipping out on the last tour).


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